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the aam admi will be the one who ll benefit the most from the Lokpal bill.
Anna Hazare released from jail after India-wide protests, begins fasting
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yeah, it was times now which covered this storey from day 1 and gave it the much needed media attention.
BTW, congrats metro. the battle is half won, but still a long way to go. salute to annaji and every indian who joined this cause and esp. to u.
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This is just the "beginning of the beginning", folks. There is a long journey ahead; and it is sure to be arduous! The political class and other vested interests will not spare any effort to find ways to delay and obstruct the process now.
So it is extremely important that people don't get overcome by euphoria and just go slack. This is not the time for any celebration. If at all, it is the leagues; the finals are yet to come. When it becomes an effective piece of Legislation; then probably it may be appropriate to talk of celebration.
So it is extremely important that people don't get overcome by euphoria and just go slack. This is not the time for any celebration. If at all, it is the leagues; the finals are yet to come. When it becomes an effective piece of Legislation; then probably it may be appropriate to talk of celebration.
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i hope it's not premature. bill has to get thru the parliament to make it to the law!! netas will not let this go thru that easily!! might need another agitation to get this thru!
Yes .it is only the half-way or less..........Because now the panel has to finalise the clauses of the bill........I am sure a lot of bergaining will be there...then it has to get passed in both houses...... But after seeing people's awakenings....We can hope everything will go well..........
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It's just the hope. doesn't mean that this will be passed unanimously for sure. we do have lot of shameless politicians who doesn't give a damn about what public has to say or think! then again.. let's hope that common sense prevails!!
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Give the press who are opposing this bill in the parliament then people will take care of them in 2014
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Though I wont rate Times Now a great channel for it creates sensationalism ( mostly unwanted) I comment that they took up this and might have exaggerated but for a good cause. Kudos Times.
Strangely NDTV wasn't as vigourous initially and then caught up with it ( may be Burka camping in S.India election coverage?). However I saw NDTV was injecting Anti-Anna views/comments wherever possible, not blatantly, but subtly - govt blackmailing, degrading const, incorrect methods of Annaji etc
Have strong suspicion that NDTV is getting paid by Congress netas.
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Anna Hazare backtracks, will agitate if bill not passed by August 15
Backtracking on the statement his made yesterday, Anna Hazare today stuck to his August 15 deadline for passage of the Lokpal Bill failing which he will resort to agitation.
"The joint drafting committee has a mandate to produce a strong Jan Lokpal bill which will be sent to Parliament. We hope that all political parties will vote as per the wishes of the people, which is overwhelmingly in favour of a strong bill.
"Parties that vote against the bill will be eventually hurting their popularity and exposing their mala fide intentions. In such an event, we will again take to streets," Hazare said.
At a interaction with Marathi journalists here yesterday, Hazare appeared to be flexible on the August 15 deadline saying he was open to extending it if he found that the government was on the right path.
"We will have to accept it. We believe in democracy," he has said in reply to a question on what would be his stand if Parliament rejected the Lokpal Bill drafted jointly by the government and representatives of the civil society.
Reacting to media reports, Hazare said today that the deadline for preparation of the draft bill remains June 30, immediately after which it should be presented in the monsoon session of Parliament.
"Even the government has admitted that it is realistic for Parliament to deliberate and take a decision on the JLB by the August 15 deadline set by me. Thus failure of this deadline will invite mass protests by the people," he said.
He said people being the masters need to monitor Parliaments decisions in a functioning democracy. This was true as Parliament has failed to pass a Lokpal Bill for the past 42 years.
In addition, significant number of elected representatives have used money, muscle power, election fraud, misinformation in the media to win seats, undermining the sanctity and credibility of the parliamentary system, he said adding the citizens will have to ensure that a strong Lokpal Bill is passed.
He also said that confusion was being created in the media through government sources that the civil society has climbed down in the first joint drafting committee meeting held on Saturday.
"It was rumoured that we agreed to the exclusion of the prime minister, cabinet ministers and judiciary from Lokpal's purview. Civil Society members have certainly not agreed to any of the above. Jan Lokpal Bill version 2.2 was presented to the government of India at the first meeting," he said.
Anna Hazare backtracks, will agitate if bill not passed by August 15 - India - DNA
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This was announced by Anna Hazar, the social activist who died of a fast on August 15 to support the claim of the anti-corruption.....
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This is another good article regarding change in Indian mindset regarding corruption
The new face of India
It’s the dawn of a new revolution in India. Social activism is a new trend among the commoners. From ‘gandhigiri’, following the principles of non-violence, to joining protests and marches, the citizens are raising voice for their rights.
In the last few years this trend has spread all over, whether small towns or big cities. The recent example is the anti-corruption movement of Anna Hazare, India’s face for fight against corruption. In April this year, he fasted, demanding a law against corrupt politicians and bureaucrats. To show solidarity, thousands of Indians from all walks of life, regardless of socio-economic backgrounds, connected. The fight is still on and Hazare still garners huge support from all over.
As India celebrates its 65th independence day, Dawn.com spoke to people from different walks of life to find out if this is just a trend or an era of revolution. Gay rights activist Pramada Menon says that multiplicity of movements is on the rise. “What has happened in India is that now people are claiming spaces. There are many different things that are happening, in different modes and in different ways. The forms of protests are evolving and I see it happening more in the future.”
Vikas Rewoo, software professional who believes in supporting causes feels that “India is witnessing a change and the foundations of a better India are being laid.”
Major impetus to this swing among the Indians comes form the youth. The recently organised Slut Walk to protest against the injustice and discrimination women have to face was the most talked about. Young students took the lead and decided to make a statement on the streets to attract attention. Ritu Sinha, who participated in the walk says, “Nowadays it is comparatively easier to gather support for any cause as the word is spread through social networking sites, internet forums, mobiles and other means. We have seen a rise in the protests at the University of Delhi and there is more awareness among the students.”
Its not just students, people from the world of business, professionals, housewives, children- in the recent protests have come together. Ajit Punesar, a businessman from north India says, “It all depends what affects you. If the issue of corruption affects me it is time I make a noise and when we get platforms where we can join in, why should we hesitate.”
Social observers believe that this new awakening of the middle class is here to stay and people will come forward to raise voices against injustice. Sociologist Ranjana Kumari explains, “We see more and more people coming out to support causes because politicians have failed them as leaders. The political class is being irresponsible, taking people for granted and do not have any transparency, which is now being demanded by the people. This trend is as a result of the discontent and dissatisfaction among the people who have been let down by the politicians.”
Kumari goes on to add “This century has been a century of assertions. Dalits have asserted their rights for their uplift, women have asserted their rights for equality and justice and this is the strength of a democratic system, to provide space to divergent views. It is a time of upheaval and lot of churning in our democratic system.”
But is this something new for India or has existed earlier. Author Anie Zaidi says, “Right from 1857 to 1947, we have had movements. India may have seen a lull in people’s movements for about two decades. But if you read our social and political history, you will see that new movements were starting up even in the 60s and 70s. In different parts of the country, there were pockets of dissent, disenchantment, and even violent protests. The only reason we are remarking on ‘civil’ society movements now is perhaps that the middle class had gotten used to thinking of itself as apolitical. Now they are taking an interest in political themes and struggles but seem to prefer to align themselves with NGOs or non-political leaders.”
But the emergence of civil society has its flaws. Gopal Krishna, Member, Citizens Forum for Civil Society, says, “The civil society intervention is more symbolic. When there is no one saying anything it makes sense to have at least this symbolism but we cannot depend on this symbolism for any substantive action.”
Krishna adds, “The civil society is working in a political and historical vacuum. Since there is no engagement with history these movements become just clinical strikes. This symbolism has its limitations during the movement and after the movement and the limitations are quite visible.”
Karma Paljor a journalist from CNN-IBN comments, “Many Indians do not practice their franchise as they have lost faith in the democratic system. The constitution of India provides space for all kinds of voices. These spurts of patriotic movements to save the country are fueled by social networking sites and are seen as in thing. But while all this started in a frivolous way this is one way that Indians will slowly come to learn that even their one vote matters.”
The new face of India | | DAWN.COM
The new face of India
It’s the dawn of a new revolution in India. Social activism is a new trend among the commoners. From ‘gandhigiri’, following the principles of non-violence, to joining protests and marches, the citizens are raising voice for their rights.
In the last few years this trend has spread all over, whether small towns or big cities. The recent example is the anti-corruption movement of Anna Hazare, India’s face for fight against corruption. In April this year, he fasted, demanding a law against corrupt politicians and bureaucrats. To show solidarity, thousands of Indians from all walks of life, regardless of socio-economic backgrounds, connected. The fight is still on and Hazare still garners huge support from all over.
As India celebrates its 65th independence day, Dawn.com spoke to people from different walks of life to find out if this is just a trend or an era of revolution. Gay rights activist Pramada Menon says that multiplicity of movements is on the rise. “What has happened in India is that now people are claiming spaces. There are many different things that are happening, in different modes and in different ways. The forms of protests are evolving and I see it happening more in the future.”
Vikas Rewoo, software professional who believes in supporting causes feels that “India is witnessing a change and the foundations of a better India are being laid.”
Major impetus to this swing among the Indians comes form the youth. The recently organised Slut Walk to protest against the injustice and discrimination women have to face was the most talked about. Young students took the lead and decided to make a statement on the streets to attract attention. Ritu Sinha, who participated in the walk says, “Nowadays it is comparatively easier to gather support for any cause as the word is spread through social networking sites, internet forums, mobiles and other means. We have seen a rise in the protests at the University of Delhi and there is more awareness among the students.”
Its not just students, people from the world of business, professionals, housewives, children- in the recent protests have come together. Ajit Punesar, a businessman from north India says, “It all depends what affects you. If the issue of corruption affects me it is time I make a noise and when we get platforms where we can join in, why should we hesitate.”
Social observers believe that this new awakening of the middle class is here to stay and people will come forward to raise voices against injustice. Sociologist Ranjana Kumari explains, “We see more and more people coming out to support causes because politicians have failed them as leaders. The political class is being irresponsible, taking people for granted and do not have any transparency, which is now being demanded by the people. This trend is as a result of the discontent and dissatisfaction among the people who have been let down by the politicians.”
Kumari goes on to add “This century has been a century of assertions. Dalits have asserted their rights for their uplift, women have asserted their rights for equality and justice and this is the strength of a democratic system, to provide space to divergent views. It is a time of upheaval and lot of churning in our democratic system.”
But is this something new for India or has existed earlier. Author Anie Zaidi says, “Right from 1857 to 1947, we have had movements. India may have seen a lull in people’s movements for about two decades. But if you read our social and political history, you will see that new movements were starting up even in the 60s and 70s. In different parts of the country, there were pockets of dissent, disenchantment, and even violent protests. The only reason we are remarking on ‘civil’ society movements now is perhaps that the middle class had gotten used to thinking of itself as apolitical. Now they are taking an interest in political themes and struggles but seem to prefer to align themselves with NGOs or non-political leaders.”
But the emergence of civil society has its flaws. Gopal Krishna, Member, Citizens Forum for Civil Society, says, “The civil society intervention is more symbolic. When there is no one saying anything it makes sense to have at least this symbolism but we cannot depend on this symbolism for any substantive action.”
Krishna adds, “The civil society is working in a political and historical vacuum. Since there is no engagement with history these movements become just clinical strikes. This symbolism has its limitations during the movement and after the movement and the limitations are quite visible.”
Karma Paljor a journalist from CNN-IBN comments, “Many Indians do not practice their franchise as they have lost faith in the democratic system. The constitution of India provides space for all kinds of voices. These spurts of patriotic movements to save the country are fueled by social networking sites and are seen as in thing. But while all this started in a frivolous way this is one way that Indians will slowly come to learn that even their one vote matters.”
The new face of India | | DAWN.COM
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