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Just that I had never heard of Greeks and the Kamboja tribe in association with Sri Lanka. Tamils, yes, Bengali or Odiya, yes, those two, no.

The Greeks need no introduction.

The Kamboja are a fascinating tribe, although much of the information that we have regarding them is pre-historic, based on references in literature. The Parama Kamboja are listed as an outlying member of the tribes that were identified at various times, most particularly in the epic, the Mahabharata, as tribes that joined the final battle. In that epic, they were described as tall, fair, fierce in battle, mounted on superb horseflesh, and familiar with fighting for others (perhaps a reference to mercenary occupation as soldiers). They were reputed to live in what is today the Ferghana region, part of modern Tajikistan, and they seem to have spoken a version of Indo-Aryan already considered archaic at that time, with verbs and usages that were listed by grammarians as no longer canonical within the mainstream of Indo-Aryan.

Some of the references seem to indicate that they may have formed part of the Scythian grouping; certainly in much later years, at the time of the Xiongnu onslaught on the Kushana/Yueh Chi/Tocharians in the Tarim Basin, there were Scythians, great horsemen with superb horses, living in the Ferghana region, speaking most probably a version of east Iranian. The repeated onslaughts of the Xiongnu broke the back of the Tarim kingdom, sent the Tocharians flying west, uprooting the Scythians and the associated Pahlavas and pushing these two tribes first into northern Afghanistan, then deeper still into what was known to the Persians and Greeks as Arachosia. The dates are post-Bactrian Greek; it was the incursion of the Scythians and the Pahlavas that destroyed the kingdoms of Bactria. This region of Arachosia therefore became Sakasthan, thence in modern usage Seistan. The Scythians/Sakas went on to conquer and dominate large tracts of western India, until they were replaced by the Kushana themsellves.

The name of the Kamboja tribe, whether a member of the Scythian ethnic grouping or not, survives prominently in the Punjab and as far east as the UP. They were known as good soldiers and several prominent military personalities, in the middle ages as well as in contemporary times, bear that name.

There are traces and mysterious hints that they may have penetrated into Tibet. How far in is not known; we also do not know for certain how the name bobs up in south-east Asia, as the name for the Khmer, as Cambodge.

These are highly speculative references and do not form part of history, in a proper sense. They are reproduced purely for the sake of the excursion into Sri Lankan history.

Inscriptional evidence
Four Sinhalese inscriptions from Koravakgala at Situlpahuwa in the Hambantota district in Rohana province contain the word "Kaboja"' (Sanskrit:Kamboja) and refer to a Kamboja village Chief or Councillor.[33] Another epigraphic inscription found from Kaduruvava in Kurunagala District south-west of Anuradhapura attest the existence of one "Kamboja Sangha or Corporation" (Gote-Kabojhyana).[34] There is yet another very important cave inscription located in Bovattagala in Amparai district in Rohana province which attests one "Grand Trade Guild of the Kambojas" (Kabojhya Mahapugyana).[35] A Mediaeval era Inscription found from Polonnaruva in 1887 near Vishnu Temple relates to Maharaja Kalinglankeshwara Bahu Veer-raja Nissanka-Malla Aprati Malla Chakravarati who caused one Charity House to be constructed and named after him as Nissankamalla-Daan-Griha. The southern gate of this Charity House is named as Kamboja Vasala.[36] And lastly, an inscription relating to king Kirti-Nissanka Malla (1187-96) was found in 1884 AD at Ruvanveli Dagva in Anuradhapura[37] which refers to a group of people called Kambodjin whom the scholars have linked to the Kamboja group which had embraced Muslim faith during mediaeval age.[38]

These ancient Brahmi inscriptions attest that a 'Great Trade Corporation of the Kambojiyas' (Kabojhiya-mahapugiyana) and a 'Sangha or Corporation of the Kambojyas' (Gota-Kabojhi(ya]na) were located in different provinces of Sri Lanka. These inscriptions additionally make reference to republican titles or appellations like Praumaka ("chief of the Sangha") and Gamika (Gamini or Gramini, the Village Councilor, Head, the Chieftain) of the Kambojiyas. Specialists have determined that Kabojhiya, Kabojha or Kambodjin are corrupted forms of Sanskrit Kamboja or Persian Kambaujiya/Kambujiya. Similarly,Gamika/Gamini is a corruption of the Sanskrit Gramini or Gramaneya and Parumaka is a corruption of the Sanskrit Pramukha meaning Chieftain or Head.[39]
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Kaboja or Kambojas[edit]
"Several early Brahmi inscriptions in Ceylon refer to a community of people called Kambojas who then lived in various parts of Sri Lanka. An early Pali text refers to a Kambojagama in Rohana".[25]

The Kaboja (also Kamboja or Kambodin) are mentioned in eight Brahmi texts. The Dameda are referenced in five texts. The Mileka are mentioned twice. The Muridi, Meraya and Jhavaka are mentioned only once.[26] The Kambojas living in Rohana are mentioned in the (?th) chapter of the Sihalavatthu, a Pali text from about 300 AD. An Elder named Maleyya was residing in Kamboja-gama, in the province (Janapada) of Rohana on the Island of Tambapanni (Sri Lanka), according to chapter 3, Metteyya-vatthu, of the Sihalavatthu.[27]Further, the Mahavamsa asserts the Yonas or Yavanas (Greeks), neighbors to the Kambojas in the north-west, also had a settlement in Pandukabhaya in Anuradhapura.[28] Eight epigraphic and one literary sources attest that the Kambojas had settled in various parts of Ceylon including Hambantoa district and Aparai districts of Rohana province, in Kurunagala district Southwest of Anuradhapura, in Polonnaruva district in eastern Ceylon as well as in Anuradhapura city. A Kambojagama is attested in the Southeast in Rohana province.

Ancient inscriptions reveal that the Kambojas were actively involved in trade, referencing one "Grand Trade Guild of the Kambojas" (Kabojhiya-mahapugiyana) in Aparai district in Rohana and one "Sangha of the Kambojas" (Gota-Kabojhi(ya]na) in Kurunagala district in Southwest Anuradhapura.[29] Epigraphers date these inscriptions to at least 200 BC, or even earlier.

The Indo-Aryan speakers of Sri Lanka may be descended from these north-western Kambojas [30][31][32] Another portion of this Aryan population originated among the Sakas and the Yavanas. These Kambojas inhabited a region bordering the upper Indus in a country near Sind, from whence they, and the Yavanas, finally reached Ceylon in pre-Christian times.
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Most interesting looks of Sinhalese are found along the southern coastal belt of Sri Lanka which is supposedly the hometown of Kambjoas in Sri Lanka. There's also a story which mentions 40,000 Indo-Greeks who settled in North Central province of Sri Lanka. Could this be the reason why some people from that province tend to have blue eyes?

I apologize for my lack of knowledge on this subject. May I know your opinion on these sources?
 
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You are out of your mind if you take Mahavamsa seriously. It is full of lies with little facts. If you read the story of Vijaya, you would realize that it is no more than a bed time story for kids. In reality migration was a slow process and didn't happen in one single day as the Mahavamsa mentions.

When logic is applied , Mahavamsa is - full of lies, bed time story ?

My response was to your post # 604 , on VNTR study which found 72% Bengali and 12 % Gujarati admixture

These findings are compatible with the historical chronicles the Mahavamsa and Dipavamsa. Which describe a Vanga prince (Prince Vijaya)from Sinhapura in Lata or Lala of being an early settler of Sri Lanka and the progenitor of the Sinhalese. The Vangas are generally identified as Bengalis. On the other hand, Lata is identified with modern day Gujarat, and Sinhapura with modern Sihor in the Kathiawar peninsular of Gujarat. Furthermore, the Mahawamsa states that Vijaya landed first at Supparaka (identified with modern Sopara, in the Thane distrcit of Maharashtra), while the Dipavamsa mentions 'Suppara' and a further intermediate port, Bharukkaccha (modern Bharuch, a port in Gujarat, at the mouth of theNarmada). Vijaya's grandfather was reputed to be a Lion, and Lions have not lived in Bengal in historic times, while they have in Gujarat so it was possible that the Lion image was either borrowed or.

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When logic is applied , Mahavamsa is - full of lies, bed time story ?

My response was to your post # 604 , to support the 72% Bengali and 12 % Gujarati admixture in the Alu polymorphism analysis of Sinhalese from Colombo by Dr Sarabjit Mastanain in 2007 using Tamil, Bengali, Gujarati (Patel), and Punjabi as parental populations found different proportions of genetic contribution
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Read my comment again. I said it is full of lies with little historical facts. For example it says that Vijaya came from Bengal and Sinhalese are mostly genetically related to Bengalis. So you could say the long process of migration was compressed into one fairy tale by Mahawamsa otherwise there's no way the Vijaya story can be taken seriously.
 
Before Mughal, there was no Hindi. Before Rigveda, there was no Hindu gods. How can veda mentioned Hindu gods?:omghaha:
Vedic deities are different from Hindu. LOL, you don't even know your history and religion. This is what you called narration of FAKE history :rofl:

Ayehh idiot.Here you argue with an Indian not chinese.You can argue with facts .But you cant teach us about our history.And that is your limitation.
You dont know anything about Hinduism and its traditions .You dont know about RigVeda and you even dont see a letter in Rigveda.And you try to teach us about the stuff like that .Come on man.:omghaha: By arguing like this you become a circus clown in this PDF.:rofl:
 
I called India a fake nation?
I called Indian people mulatto?
I called Indian people as uncivilised as Australian aborigines?

You must be out of your mind.

The deliberate deviation from patient, careful presentation of the facts was intended to demonstrate how strident and hostile a post can sound without such treatment .

My anger is due to the coarse and tasteless way in which people responded to my posts, not to some other issue. This is really too shallow an effort at diverting attention.

No, @faithfulguy did it.

Please check my post again. The things that you accused me of ("coarse ethnic abuse") was in response to people like him abusing India and Indians (racially) in almost every thread on every topic.

Sometimes he quotes Stormfront threads to try to denigrate India and Indians.

I have only contempt for his ilk and yes things do get out of hand with people like him.

It had nothing to do with you.

I don't think I have ever responded to your posts in "coarse of tasteless way" as you are putting it.
 
Ayehh idiot.Here you argue with an Indian not chinese.You can argue with facts .But you cant teach us about our history.And that is your limitation.
You dont know anything about Hinduism and its traditions .You dont know about RigVeda and you even dont see a letter in Rigveda.And you try to teach us about the stuff like that .Come on man.:omghaha: By arguing like this you become a circus clown in this PDF.:rofl:

Are you saying that Indian history is not base on facts, but on religious belief and traditions. Its good to know. But to the rest of the world, history is base on bibliographical evidence or archeological evidence.

No, @faithfulguy did it.

Please check my post again. The things that you accused me of ("coarse ethnic abuse") was in response to people like him abusing India and Indians (racially) in almost every thread on every topic.

Sometimes he quotes Stormfront threads to try to denigrate India and Indians.

I have only contempt for his ilk and yes things do get out of hand with people like him.

It had nothing to do with you.

I don't think I have ever responded to your posts in "coarse of tasteless way" as you are putting it.

How is it ethnic abuse when Indians is exactly a combination of invading Indo-European and native people, which is most likely Australoid people. Is there no Australoid people living in India today? I was referring to Indian people is composed of two groups of people just like people of Mexico today, which is highly likely.

As for stormfront, I quoted a thread there to show that someone posted a Indian 2030 video there. And that was a cause for many white extremist joining this site for a period of time. It was a mistake and I should not have done that.
 
Are you saying that Indian history is not base on facts, but on religious belief and traditions. Its good to know. But to the rest of the world, history is base on bibliographical evidence or archeological evidence.

Unlike rest of the world, Chinese really don't have a cultural base identity, so they look towards an identity given by the brutal empire. Do you really see Qin Shi Huang as your hero for uniting China in 221BC, after reading his biography.
 
Are you saying that Indian history is not base on facts, but on religious belief and traditions. Its good to know. But to the rest of the world, history is base on bibliographical evidence or archeological evidence.

No .Indian history is based on facts with powerful archeological foundations.Our religion is our way of life.Here we got a chinese teach an Indian about our history.What will be your response when a Indian with half knowledge teach Chinese about his history?that is exactly happened here .Fatty acids dont know basic facts about our culture and even he dont have half knowledge in it.It is like a half eyed frog in a well. Dont know anything and boasting about knowledge by himself.
 
How is it ethnic abuse when Indians is exactly a combination of invading Indo-European and native people, which is most likely Australoid people. Is there no Australoid people living in India today? I was referring to Indian people is composed of two groups of people just like people of Mexico today, which is highly likely.

As for stormfront, I quoted a thread there to show that someone posted a Indian 2030 video there. And that was a cause for many white extremist joining this site for a period of time. It was a mistake and I should not have done that.

You better not quote me ever.

You have almost made me hate a country and a people against which I didn't have anything.

My personal experience with the Chinese (or Taiwanese) people has always been positive. I don't want some people like you to make me have contempt for the whole bunch.
 
No .Indian history is based on facts with powerful archeological foundations.Our religion is our way of life.Here we got a chinese teach Indian about our history.What will be your response when a Indian with half knowledge teach Chinese about his history?that is exactly happened here .Fatty acids dont know basic facts about our culture and even he dont have half knowledge in it.

He might know less about your specific culture. But his point on history is sound. He is not debate culture or religion.

India has a civilization that lasted thousand of years and no one can debate or deny that. Hinduism is the religion of Indian subcontinent and its one of the major characteristics of what make India a nation today(and why Pakistan is a different nation). However, he is not debating the Indian civilization or culture was created by the British. But the Indian political entity was create by the British.

You better not quote me ever.

You have almost made me hate a country and a people against which I didn't have anything.

My personal experience with the Chinese (or Taiwanese) people has always been positive. I don't want some people like you to make me have contempt for the whole bunch.

debate with facts, not with your emotion? Do not attack the messenger, but debate my points.
 
He might know less about your specific culture. But his point on history is sound. He is not debate culture or religion.

India has a civilization that lasted thousand of years and no one can debate or deny that. Hinduism is the religion of Indian subcontinent and its one of the major characteristics of what make India a nation today(and why Pakistan is a different nation). However, he is not debating the Indian civilization or culture was created by the British. But the Indian political entity was create by the British.



debate with facts, not with your emotion? Do not attack the messenger, but debate my points.

Agree.It is not about emotions.Dont argue if you dont have any basic knowledge in subject .It is my policy.
You are right .Britian influenced our system but still we follow our culture but in a modernway.But some other countries completely surrender their native culture to foreigners you can see it in South America etc.But in India we still follow our dress culture and also lot of other things.Britians arrival change our political landscape. partition is due to their divide and rule policy.Britians educational policy in India also a reason for WW2 .You must know that terrorism in 21st century also have same roots in this their divide and rule policy.
And kingdoms will always change their boundaries in history.I think Chinese kingdoms boundaries also changed in due course of its history.Can you agree that the People Republic of China is equal as in it was in earlier centuries?
 
debate with facts, not with your emotion? Do not attack the messenger, but debate my points.

You have a "point" only in your own mind.

Your ignorance was totally exposed when given an opportunity to present your case. That doesn't prevent you from repeating the same crap on every thread on any topic.

That itself shows your motives. Excuse me for having only contempt for your so called "points" and seeing through your motives.

And this is my last reply to you.
 
You have a "point" only in your own mind.

Your ignorance was totally exposed when given an opportunity to present your case. That doesn't prevent you from repeating the same crap on every thread on any topic.

That itself shows your motives. Excuse me for having only contempt for your so called "points" and seeing through your motives.

And this is my last reply to you.

Points you have none, so you resort to personal slurs instead of addressing the points. Just like politician in general.

Agree.It is not about emotions.Dont argue if you dont have any basic knowledge in subject .It is my policy.
You are right .Britian influenced our system but still we follow our culture but in a modernway.But some other countries completely surrender their native culture to foreigners you can see it in South America etc.But in India we still follow our dress culture and also lot of other things.Britians arrival change our political landscape. partition is due to their divide and rule policy.Britians educational policy in India also a reason for WW2 .You must know that terrorism in 21st century also have same roots in this their divide and rule policy.
And kingdoms will always change their boundaries in history.I think Chinese kingdoms boundaries also changed in due course of its history.Can you agree that the People Republic of China is equal as in it was in earlier centuries?

In the defense of the American-Indian those guys got colonized, butchred & got out bred by the Spanish settlers, not to mention the Spanish also imposed their own version of the Caste System on the Native populations. So the original South American people clearly has no choices in the matter of keeping their culture. Just like their brothers up north.

You should be grateful that your people were spared such fate. The Aryans failed to conquer the south, the Muslims prefer to lord over India peacefully & the British prefer an indirect rule of India while milking you guys dry.
Casta_1_Luis_de_Mena.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casta
(BTW. Not every Amerindian gave up their own cultures in favor of western one. They still stubbornly clings to them like a fly stuck on fly paper.)

Traditional Bolivian attire:
bolivia-constitution-native090207-07.jpg

& there's much, much more.

& how delusional you have to be to somehow make a connection that the British education system actually started world war 2!?
 
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उत्तरं यत्समुद्रस्य हिमाद्रेश्चैव दक्षिणम् ।
वर्षं तद् भारतं नाम भारती यत्र संततिः ।।

"The country (varṣam) that lies north of the ocean and south of the snowy mountains is called Bhāratam; there dwell the descendants of Bharata."

This is from Vishnu puran which is thousands of years old.

Now this is what gets one's goat.

How do you start responding to such ignorance that "India was created by the British". It makes as much sense to us as "China was created by the Mongols" will to he Chinese but some people just keep on repeating it endlessly whatever be the topic.

There is a difference between a kingdom (or an empire) and a nation.

Mongols had an empire but not a nation, one nation may have several kingdoms that have a clear consciousness of belonging to the same nation despite multiple political entities.

People went for pilgrimage etc. all over the country and never felt they were in another country.

Perhaps too difficult for some people to understand this but the least one can do is not to impose their ignorance on others.

That is too difficult for some it seems and that is why they invite what they do.
 
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Agree.It is not about emotions.Dont argue if you dont have any basic knowledge in subject .It is my policy.
You are right .Britian influenced our system but still we follow our culture but in a modernway.But some other countries completely surrender their native culture to foreigners you can see it in South America etc.But in India we still follow our dress culture and also lot of other things.Britians arrival change our political landscape. partition is due to their divide and rule policy.Britians educational policy in India also a reason for WW2 .You must know that terrorism in 21st century also have same roots in this their divide and rule policy.
And kingdoms will always change their boundaries in history.I think Chinese kingdoms boundaries also changed in due course of its history.Can you agree that the People Republic of China is equal as in it was in earlier centuries?

He has deep Indophobia and you wasted your time because he will still pretend not to understand it.
 
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