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"Ancient India" was in Pakistan region, not present-day India.

read below about maurya and gupta

It is important to note that except for the Maurya period lasting barely a hundred years, and even then it was more because of diplomacy rather than conquest under none of the other dynasties did the Hindu governments ever rule over Pakistan. They always remained east of river Sutlej.

"At the close of Samudragupta’s triumphal career (4th century AD) his empire --- the greatest in India since the days of Asoka --- extended on the north to the base of the mountains, but did not include Kashmir…. Samudragupta did not attempt to carry his arms across the Sutlej or to dispute the authority of the Kushan Kings who continued to rule in and beyond the Indus basin." (Oxford History of India, By VA Smith).


"Harsha’s subjugation of upper India, excluding the punjab, but including Bihar and at least the greater part of Bengal, was completed in 612 AD." (Ibid)




"Politically during the time when Hellenism in the south Asian sub-continent was decaying and the centuries afterward, the north-west remained separate from northern and central India. The Gupta empire, which at its height in the middle of the 4th century AD, and the empire of Harsha in the middle of the 7th century AD barely reached into the Punjab and included none of Sind." (Pakistan and Western Asia, by Norman Brown)



"Throughout most of the recorded history the north-west (i.e. Pakistan) has normally been either independent or incorporated in an empire whose centre lay further in the west. The occasions when it has been governed from a centre further east (India) have been the exception rather than the rule; and the creation of Pakistan which has been described as a geographer’s nightmare is historically a reversion to normal as Pakistan is concerned." (A Study of History, by AJ Toynbee)


now put that in your pipe and smoke it
And yet these Indian empires still maintained nominal control while your Pakistan couldn't create anything. :( and Maurya did have a lot of control. Seleucid Maurya war lead to control of your region. Gupta empire defeated Huns who invaded Pakistan. We are your rulers.
 
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What a rubbish, The Entire region East of Indus is called India.

When Vasco de Gama set sail to find India he did not land in Karachi, he landed in Souther part of India.


sorry to burst your bubble and your low level of intellect, but 'melluhans' as they were reffered to then from harrappa and mohenjadaro were trading as far as mesopotamia 2-3000 years before vasco de gama was a twinkle in the eye of his daddy...
 
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sorry to burst your bubble and your low level of intellect, but 'melluhans' as they were reffered to then from harrappa and mohenjadaro were trading as far as mesopotamia 2-3000 years before vasco de gama was a twinkle in the eye of his daddy...
Sorry but real Indian civilisation was found in Nalanda Univerisity, taxila was a crap university in comparison. Chola Empire from Tamil Nadu was raiding as far as Indonesia. India has real history of empires while Pakistan has a couple ruins.
 
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Just as the Romans, Phoenicians traded spices with South India. None of them even went to Karachi, they were not looking for sand; they were looking for spices! :lol:

dont want to make you feel stupid, but your not making it very difficult, IVC traders went to mesopotamia nd phoenecia

"About 2000 B.C. it would have been possible to travel from Sutkagen-dot near the shores of the Arabian Sea over 300 miles west of Karachi (in Baluchistan) to the village of Rupar near the foot of the Simla hills - a distance of 1000 miles and to see on all sides men living in various degrees the same mode of life, making the same kind of pots and tools and ornaments and possibly administered by the same government.

"It will be observed that this great stretch of country coincides very nearly with the present Pakistan, and for a significant reason: Pakistan, like the Indus Civilization, belongs essentially to the vast fertile valley of the Indus and its tributaries, sheltered by hills, sea and desert from its less favoured neighbours save where in the Punjab, the northern plains continuously fringe the foot-hills of the Himalayas. The Indus Civilization can thus be claimed in a real sense as a pre-historic prototype of Pakistan.

"Within this immense territory, archaeologists have found no fewer than thirty-seven town or village sites (tells) representing this civilization, and many more un-doubtedly await discovery." (Pakistan before the Aryans, By Sir Mortimer Wheeler).


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Ancient Mesopotamian texts speak of trading with at least two seafaring civilizations - Makkan and Meluha - in the neighborhood of India in the third millennium B.C. This trade was conducted with real financial sophistication in amounts that could involve tons of copper. The Mesopotamians speak of Meluha as an aquatic culture, where water and bathing played a central role. One of its most well-known structures is the Great Bath of Mohenjo-daro. A number of Indus Valley objects have been found buried with Mesopotamians.

 
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sorry to burst your bubble and your low level of intellect, but 'melluhans' as they were reffered to then from harrappa and mohenjadaro were trading as far as mesopotamia 2-3000 years before vasco de gama was a twinkle in the eye of his daddy...
Sorry to burst your bubble. Nobody knows which is exact place refereed as "melluhans". If it were to Sarasvati valley civilizations, then the only port that could have traded is in India. Lothal. So, people of harappa and mohanjodaro couldn't trade with anybody outside...
 
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Sorry but real Indian civilisation was found in Nalanda Univerisity, taxila was a crap university in comparison. Chola Empire from Tamil Nadu was raiding as far as Indonesia. India has real history of empires while Pakistan has a couple ruins.

if it wasnt for pannini and his epic works in sanskrit in taxila , nalanda would be speaking hunter gatherer mumbo jumbo...
 
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if it wasnt for pannini and his epic works in sanskrit in taxila , nalanda would be speaking hunter gatherer mumbo jumbo...
WTH? People were already speaking sanskrit.. panini codified the grammar, he did not invent the language itself..
 
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Sorry to burst your bubble. Nobody knows which is exact place refereed as "melluhans". If it were to Sarasvati valley civilizations, then the only port that could have traded is in India. Lothal. So, people of harappa and mohanjodaro couldn't trade with anybody outside...

lol sarasvati valley civilisations, is sarasvati a valley? good luck with still finding this non existent river. melluhans were referred to harrapans by the mesopotamians, they even had trading settlements on the tigris/euphrates. goods, seals, artefacts from harrapa were discovered there. the term melluhans correlates with melecchas

Reality of Pakistan was not India now they want to be India. Seems pretty desperate.
read the article and refute it if you can, india is a misnomer.
 
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lol sarasvati valley civilisations, is sarasvati a valley? good luck with still finding this non existent river. melluhans were referred to harrapans by the mesopotamians, they even had trading settlements on the tigris/euphrates. goods, seals, artefacts from harrapa were discovered there. the term melluhans correlates with melecchas
LOL, so Indus is a valley in your books??
"melluhans were referred to harrapans by the mesopotamians" - EPIC!!! did harrappans get any referral benefits for referring melluhans to mesopotamians??
Artefacts from "harappa" were never discovered. From Lothal, may be. Not "from harappa". There was no route connecting the two..
 
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lol sarasvati valley civilisations, is sarasvati a valley? good luck with still finding this non existent river. melluhans were referred to harrapans by the mesopotamians, they even had trading settlements on the tigris/euphrates. goods, seals, artefacts from harrapa were discovered there. the term melluhans correlates with melecchas


read the article and refute it if you can, india is a misnomer.
I might but that doesn't matter as denial is part of your country.
 
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What a crap article. Desperation for an identity at its peak :D
another bum with one liners, refute the crap article then. i think its indians with an identity crisis considering you have to borrow your countrys name from your colonial masters

LOL, so Indus is a valley in your books??
"melluhans were referred to harrapans by the mesopotamians" - EPIC!!! did harrappans get any referral benefits for referring melluhans to mesopotamians??
Artefacts from "harappa" were never discovered. From Lothal, may be. Not "from harappa". There was no route connecting the two..

put this in your pipe and smoke it.....

Judging from the dispersal of Indus civilization artifacts, the trade networks, economically, integrated a huge area, including portions of Afghanistan, the coastal regions of Persia, northern and western India, and Mesopotamia. There is some evidence that trade contacts extended to Crete and possibly to Egypt.

There was an extensive maritime trade network operating between the Harappan and Mesopotamian civilizations as early as the middle Harappan Phase, with much commerce being handled by "middlemen merchants from Dilmun" (modern Bahrain and Failaka located in the Persian Gulf). Such long-distance sea trade became feasible with the innovative development of plank-built watercraft, equipped with a single central mast supporting a sail of woven rushes or cloth.

Indus Valley Civilization, Mohenjo Daro, Harappan Culture - Crystalinks
 
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