Ok as I decided to put you in my ignore list meaning i don't have to respond to you,
Thank you to have removed me from your ignore list, in this way we can have a discussion as mature adults.
but since you bring the Personal stuff in here which just show that your parents didn't do a good job raising a kid like you ..
Calling someone traitor is not going to personal ? Did I said your parents did something wrong about you ? I was talking about what you were saying.
You started by "Afghans are criminals" then when we said it is racism, you shifted to "criminals afghans" good you changed your position. That is just i wanted. When you will live one day in USA, you will understant what does mean being labelled criminal just because few pakistanis are criminals.
I bring personal stuff you put on public domain by your own will. Nobody forced you to put it on a forum which is accessible to openly accessible. When you will live in USA, you will understand that whatever you would say, write on open plateforms it could backfire. You will have to learn to be more carefull.
I sincerly hope you learn it well now.
Now let me be very clear , Yes I want All illegal Afghans send back to Afghanistan, Yes there are goood Afghans
Thanks Allah you accepted that. So I hope you will stop to generalise.
but if they are illegal than they need to be send back
I would have agreed with you on this point if only :
- we have strong, honest, fair judicial system.
- we have a good control of our borders.
- we have a peaceful afghanistan (free from war/occupation).
If those 3 points are not met, then those deported will come again and again. And with more hate.
It would be plain stupidity, isn't it ?
Afghani's are not same as Pakistani Pashtoons or Pathans , There are many many many Pathans who hate Afghans more than I do , there were constant clash between them and Afghans back in the day at Al Asif and Afghan Basti which later fall under Afghani's .
I hope that i never said that all people having differents cultures, languages are same people.
Now, Why do we don't like Afghanis ? Because they don't accept Pakistan, They don't recognize international border which destroy the idea of a independent Pakistan, if we are so eager in accepting Afghanistan and Pakistan are one, than why we get upset when India claims Pakistan to be their Land ?
This is something different that Afghans are criminal, I hope you understand.
As for calling your death, either you are a 10 years old or just dumb who took everything literally
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If you want to go in USA you should learn that what you put down on paper or on internet could be used against you in court. Especially if you call for someone’s death.
At least here in France, calling for someone’s death is a crime in itself.
I challenge you to call death of Donald Trump. You will see the result immediately: no visa, total ban from entrance in USA, and maybe ending in Guantanamo.
You will have plenty of to explain them that either they are 10 years child or dumb who take everything literally.
Yes dare call death of Donald.
Yes I call you and 2-3 more Posters outsiders and traitors cause this is what you are , Living outside Pakistan and support lawlessness inside Pakistan . Anyone who support people who hate Pakistan , Hurt Pakistan , dont recognize Pakistan is to me a traitor and needs to be put under Jail and than Hanged by a trail ,
I agree with you but is telling that "your solution is wrong" make me a traitor ? you should learn something about what is racism, especially if you are going in western countries. It will help you avoid problems.
This is what LHC give to Mushy .
He did mistakes for sure, but labelling him traitor is not what make the LHC High.
now let me tell your and others like you your problems , first you guys are not Pakistani's
Who gave you the right to call someone Pakistani or not ? Even I have disagreement with you I have never, and will never call you Non Pakistani !
and if by any chance you all are, you are traitors because you are inciting and supporting violence against Pakistani Population in favor of Afghanis who under every law are not legal Pakistani citizens .
Is calling for a strong, honest and fair judicial system, making a strong control of our borders before sending them back in a
peaceful Afghanistan making me a supporter of violence against my own borthers and sisters ? I had a lot of respect for you and I still have respect for you, but you are showing weak intellectual mind. Maybe the hate you have is blinding you. That's why I told you whatever are your positions, you should avoid hate. Am I wrong ?
Second , your hate with Urdu speaking people led you to target them in shadow of MQM
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I have no hate against anyone, especially for the urdu speaking people. I am myself urdu speaker. It's not my mother language, but still my parents wanted that we speak urdu. Urdu is our National Language. Isn't it ?
And could you quote any message where i had spread hate against any language ? Please quote one message where i have expressed any hate against you ?
trust me this is what ANP and People Aman comity did when they were in Power, I lived my whole life in Karachi and see the political change from MQM to ANP to the break of MQM and now PTI . There was no Muhajir and Pathan fight but it was created by ANP and PPP, with also full support from MQM . You and others like you call me racist against Afghans but in fact from the words of that Pakhtoon guy Afghans are not a thing so how come I am racists ? LOL ..
Again I have just said that telling "Afghans are criminals" is racism. isn't it ? then you shifted to "Criminals afghans should be..." So you understood what I meant. That's all.
Afghans to me everyone Afghan citizen I don't care if he or she is Pashtoon , Hazaara , or whatever ethnicity he is Born in Afghanistan he is afghan . And we took Afghans as refugee when there was a War going, now there is not just operations, and Americans are sitting there so they can go back to their country and bring their own country out of misery I will wish them good luck .
There is dimension you don't see or you do not want to see.
If you deport them, then you are creating more cannon fodders for indians in Afghanistan wo will came back in Pakistan.
As I said, make strong judicial system in Pakistan, any criminal should be sent to jail for long, very long term. We should help a friendly and strong government in Afghanistant who can take care of all those criminals before sending them back there. Because if not, then those criminals will came back again and again with more hate for our brothers and sisters. Is it what you want ? You are thinking short term solution, I am thinking long term solutions.
And this is my last and only response for you, I have complained against you in GHQ section for getting personal .
You can make complain wherever you want, it doesn't change the fact that on this you are totally wrong.
If i bring your very personal in the debate, it was first you who went personal first (traitor, death etc).I didn't wanted to go to this level, but you continued to call me traitor, you did not wanted to understang the problem of "generalisation" so I went to this extrem. And even if I wanted to go further in the extrem, i could have, but still selfcontrolled myself.
I shown you that if some American are bad with Pakistan, it doesn't mean that your wife is bad because she is American. Is she ? I hope you get my point about generalisation.
@Starlord
Thanks to have put me again in your "ignore list", it shows what kind of man you are, not able to have discussion as a mature adult.
Also then ignore me also when you post message, don't talk about me at all.