AMRAAM BVR Missiles Delivered to Pakistan

[Patriot]

Guys, Just saw news on geotv..go to any website and watch it online you might catch the new news.Have not seen it on their website yet but i guess they will place news there shortly.

 

[SBD-3]

yap....Pakistan had Placed an order of 500 Slammers (the biggest one as well) long ago according to Janes

ROBERTHEWSON Editor, Janes Air-LaunchedWeapons
The US has concluded a USD284 million deal to supply Pakistan with 200 Raytheon AIM- 9M-8/9 Sidewinder air-to-air missiles (AAMs) and 500 AIM-120C5 Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missile (AMRAAM)systems. The AMRAAM sale marks the biggest single export order in the history of the AIM-120 programme and gives the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) a beyond-visual range (BVR) active-radar AAM capability for the first time. The missiles will be carried by the PAFs newly ordered F-16C/D Block 50/52 aircraft and its existing F-16A/B Block 15s, which will acquire AMRAAM compatibility as part of a mid-life upgrade. The arrival of the AMRAAM in PAF service gives the air force a significant combat capability it has previously been denied. Pakistan has explored several clandestine avenues to developing its own active radar BVR AAMs to counter Indias considerable stocks of weapons in the same class. Pakistan is also expected to acquire the Chinese-developed SD-10 (PL-12) AAM with its JF-17 Thunder lightweight fighters. SD-10s would also be part of any potential Chengdu J-10 order. Pakistans closer defence ties with the US may force a re-assessment of its links with China.The US has now granted Pakistan access to effective modern weapon systems, such as the AMRAAM, curbing the need for the PAF to look for suppliers elsewhere. Hand in hand with US equipment will come restrictions on the potential transfer of technology – such as the AMRAAM– to China, with Pakistan forced to distance itself from its Chinese partners as a result. India will no doubt note the delivery of the AMRAAM order to Pakistan with interest. The Indian Air Forces large front-line force of Su-30MKIs, MiG-29s and MiG-21UPGs is equipped with Vympels RVV-AE (R-77) active radar AAM. The arrival of the AMRAAM and an expanded F-16 force into PAF service balances the regional air-power equation, to a degree. AMRAAM deliveries to the PAF will start in 2008 and run until 2011. The contract with Raytheon is a Foreign Military Sales agreement, so missiles will be allocated to Pakistan from the relevant annual production lots for the US government. The 200 AIM-9M Sidewinders are being delivered from refurbished stocks. The AMRAAM and Sidewinder order is part of a much larger US-supplied F-16 weapons package for Pakistan, originally announced in June 2006.

● The Pakistan Air Force will,
for the first time, gain a BVR
active-radar AAM capability
● The AMRAAM sale is the
biggest single export order
for the AIM-120

(this was taken from JDW 2007 issue)

 

[Patriot]

In early 2006 the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) ordered 500 AIM-120 AMRAAM missiles as part of a $650 million F-16 ammunition deal to equip the PAF's F-16C/D Block 52+ and F-16A/B MLU fighters.
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Well I am glad we're bvr equipped now.In just a year all our thunders will be bvr equipped too.

 

[Hyde]

Enough guys! - MODs attention required
i reported one random post from this thread and urged MODs to delete some useless posts from this thread.

Rather than congratulating each other we are busy in insulting our neighbouring country? if you think they are bad you don't have to be bad in the same manner.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Congrats to Pakistan Air force -

We still need a long range defence sheild

 

[TOPGUN]

We need a valided source plzz thx guys.

 

[Patriot]

AIM120 electronics outmatches literally all bvr missiles..SD10 would be like a little kid in front of AIM120.AIM120 is the only missile ever used in combat and gave excellent kill ratio.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Hi..congrates to all Pakistani members and PAF..its a happy moment for sure.

Can somebody post a comparative analysis of best BVR missiles possesed by both PAF and IAF to take this thread to a meaningful direction?

No - it is not a thread for comparisons or vs fanboy rants.

Keep the thread focussed on the thread topic. If you want to discuss the Indian BVRAAM's then do so in a thread in the ID section.

 

[MZUBAIR]

 

[MZUBAIR]

Its the first batch of the missiles...............could be around 50(guess).
Still we will be getting 450(guess) more

 

[Zarbe Momin]

in Express news it is written this BVR missel is MRAM, MRAM stand for?

 

[Taha Samad]

in Express news it is written this BVR missel is MRAM, MRAM stand for?

Its AMRAAM(pronounced Am-Ram)
Advanced Medium Range Air to Air Missile

 

[Patriot]

Thanks for confirmation - Hope no one is worried about news credibility now.

 

[Hasnain2009]

I copied this from some forum, TEMPEST II posted it

Radar Ranges

AWACS:
APS-138 (E-2): 220 km (fighter), 463 km (bomber)
APS-145 (E-2C): 267 km (small fighter), 400 km (large fighter), 565 km (bomber)
APY-1/2 (E-3 & E-767): 267 km (small fighter), 400 km (large fighter), 565 km (bomber)
Phalcon: 267 km (small fighter), 400 km (large fighter), 565 km (bomber)
Shmel 100 (A-50): 100 km (fighter), 200-300+ km (bomber)
Shmel 2 (A-50U): 230 km (MiG-21), 500 km (bomber)
MESA (Wedgetail): 350 km (fighter), 745 km (bomber)
Erieye (EMB-145 & S 100B): 225 km (small fighter), 340-350 km (large fighter), 450-480 km (bomber), 320 km (ship)


Search Ranges (for fighters unless otherwise noted):
F-15E (AN/APG-70): 300 km (mapping)
F-20 (AN/APG-67): 130 km
JAS.37 Viggen (PS-46/A): 75 km
J-7C/D (JL-7A): 70 km
J-10 (KLJ-3): 100-130 km
J-10 (Zhuk-10PD): 160 km
MiG-21PF (RP-21): 13-20 km
MiG-21SMT (RP-22 Sapfir-21): 30 km
MiG-23S (RP-22 Sapfir-21): 30 km
MiG-23 (Sapfir-23): 70 km
MiG-25 (Sapfir-25): 100 km
MiG-29 (N019 Sapfir-29): 100 km
MiG-31 (SBI-16 Zaslon): 200 km
MiG-29M/MiG-33 (Zhuk-ME): 120 km (aircraft), 250 km (ships), 150 km (ground radar)
Mirage 2000 (RDM or RDI): 100 km
Su-27SK (N001E Zhuk): 240 km (probably large fighter, maybe bomber)
Su-30MK3 (“Panda” Radar): 190 km (aircraft), 300 km (ships)

Tracking Range Against Small fighter:
EFA-2000 (ECR 90): 160-175 km
F-4E (AN/APG-30): 38 km
F-14 (AN/APG-71): 213 km (120+ km for cruise missiles)
F-15A (AN/APG-63): 110-160 km
F-15C (AN/APG-70): 195 km
F-16A/C (AN/APG-66): 50-60 km
F-16C Block 25 (AN/APG-68): 70 km
F-16C Block 50/52 (AN/APG-68(V)7): 80 km
F-16C Block 50/52 (AN/APG-68(V)9/10): 105 km (future upgrade to F-16 fleet, promising 30%+ range increase)
F-16E Block 60 (AN/APG-80): 130 km
F/A-18A (AN/APG-65): 60-65 km
F/A-18C (AN/APG-73): 72 km
F-20 (AN/APG-67): 90 km
F/A-22 (AN/APG-77): 230 km
F-7P Skybolt (Grifo 7): 55+ km
F-7MP Skybolt (Grifo 7): 55+ km
F-8IIM (Zhuk-8B): 70 km (front), 40 km (rear)
J-7: 15-55 km, depending on radar fitted
J-8II (SL-5A): 40 km
J-8B (JL-8A): 60 km
J-8H (KLJ-1): 75 km
J-10 (KLJ-3): 80-90 km
JAS.39 Gripen (PS-05): 90 km
MiG-21PF (RP-21): 7-10 km
MiG-21SMT (RP-22 Sapfir-21): 14-19 km
MiG-23S (RP-22 Sapfir-21): 19 km
MiG-23 (Sapfir-23): 55 km
MiG-25 (Sapfir-25): 47-66 km
MiG-29 (N019 Sapfir-29): 80 km
MiG-31 (SBI-16 Zaslon): 110 km
MiG-29M/MiG-33 (Zhuk-ME): 60-70 km
Mirage F.1 (Cyrano IV): 45 km
Rafale (RBE2): 100 km
Su-27 (N001 Zhuk): 80-100 km (front), 40 km (rear)
Su-30MKK (N001VE Zhuk): 110 km (front), 40 km (rear)
Su-27M/Su-35 (N011 Zhuk-27): 100 km (front), 55 km (rear)
Su-27M/Su-35 (Zhuk-PH): 165 km (front), 60 km (rear)


Tracking Range Against Bombers
EFA-2000 (ECR 90): 370 km
F-4E (AN/APG-30): 80 km
F-14 (AN/APG-71): 370 km
F-15A (AN/APG-63): 240 km
F-15C (AN/APG-70): 410 km
F-16A/C (AN/APG-66): 100-110 km
F-16C Block 25 (AN/APG-68): 130 km
F-16C Block 50/52 (AN/APG-68(V)7): 140 km
F-16C Block 50/52 (AN/APG-68(V)9/10): 185 km (future upgrade to F-16 fleet, promising 30%+ range increase)
F-16E Block 60 (AN/APG-80): 275 km
F/A-18C (AN/APG-73): 150 km
F/A-22 (AN/APG-77): 490 km
JAS.39 Gripen (PS-05): 190 km
MiG-25 (Saphir-25): 100-140 km
MiG-29 (N019 Sapfir-29): 100+ km
MiG-31 (SBI-16 Zaslon): 240 km

Also provided here is a list of estmated frontal RCS of various aircraft. Note that this is highly variable, and RCS is dependant on angle presented and external stores, among other issues. For most of these, I unfortunately do not know if it's for a "clean" or loaded aircraft, and in some cases (such as Rafale & EFA 2000), it's really just a rough estimate from unofficial sources, but these nonetheless provide an excellent starting comparison.

Estimated RCS of various aircraft (frontal view):
A-10: 25m2
B-1B: 10m2
B-52: 100m2
Cruise Missile (ie Harpoon): 0.1m2
EFA 2000: 0.1m2
F-4: 25m2
F-16C: 1.2m2 (w/ reduced RCS)
F/A-18C: 3m2, 1.2m2 w/ reduced RCS
F/A-18E: 0.1m2
F/A-22: 0.0002m2
F-35: 0.0015m2
JAS.39 Gripen: 0.5m2
MiG-21: 5m2
Mirage 2000: 2m2
Rafale: 0.1-0.3m2 (clean)
Su-30: 10-14m2
Tornado: 8m2

 

[Super Falcon]

well thanx for detailed info on each and every fighter jet sir i want to know these AMRAAM which we got do they can be jammed from enemy radar system and what do they get ivaded by chaff flares as u say these are advanced missiles and seems like pakistan is seriuosly thinking of missiles A darter we have deal with SA and Anti radition from brazil and other mirage missile from brazil and now from american what about Jdam bombs PAF thinking of it too