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Thanks for a good example of unrestrained Chinese hostility to the US over insignificant issues. .

You American like to take advantage even at thie insignificant issues and exploite to your own benefice, we don't blame you, that's human nature but dont blame us to play the same game.
 
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I keep asking this question, but I never get a substantial answer. How are we trying to weaken China in every possible way? Perhaps you can tell me what trade sanctions we've imposed, or what financial sanctions we've imposed, or what special anti-China tariffs we enacted, etc.
It's beginning to look like China needed an enemy to unify the people, and settled on the US because we are strong. More suitable enemies could have been chosen--due to real, tangible wrongs committed against China--but those have been forgiven and overlooked because the US is convenient.
well, u have always said that we chinese have a victim narrative, but i find the same on americans and i always wondering why would the world's sole superpower think they been bullied by weak china? come on, why would the creator of the world currency call another a currency manipulator for example? i just give u some examples of how US has sanction us: stop our companies to entry US market, trade protectionism, deter technology transfer to china, isolate us from participating the international space programs. it's not about we hate US, every moves by us were purely Counter measures, u start the anti-dumping policy on our products and we strike back, u deny our access to international space program, we deny ur investment, u start to pivot to asia then we have to push u back, u criticize our human right then we release the US human right write paper, u accuse we spying on u and cyber attack, we reveal ur cyber attacks as well.etc…..actually i was amazed by US really accuse our spying and cyber attacks, i mean come on really? that was really a big surprise for us, make US looks very childish and desperate, what u think CIA works for live?

But i have to correct u that we don't see US as enemy, but rival for sure, even a benchmark i would say,and i can assure u that there are more americans hate us than we hate americans. in the government level, i think the Sino-US relationship is not as bad as many people think, a lot of people think Beijing and Washington have misunderstandings, well that's not true, we both know each other' intensions very well, the mistrust between two parties is a concrete fact, and we both know the consequences of escalation and try to avoid that.
 
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well, u have always said that we chinese have a victim narrative, but i find the same on americans and i always wondering why would the world's sole superpower think they been bullied by weak china? come on, why would the creator of the world currency call another a currency manipulator for example? i just give u some examples of how US has sanction us: stop our companies to entry US market, trade protectionism, deter technology transfer to china, isolate us from participating the international space programs. it's not about we hate US, every moves by us were purely Counter measures, u start the anti-dumping policy on our products and we strike back, u deny our access to international space program, we deny ur investment, u start to pivot to asia then we have to push u back, u criticize our human right then we release the US human right write paper, u accuse we spying on u and cyber attack, we reveal ur cyber attacks as well.etc…..actually i was amazed by US really accuse our spying and cyber attacks, i mean come on really? that was really a big surprise for us, make US looks very childish and desperate, what u think CIA works for live?

But i have to correct u that we don't see US as enemy, but rival for sure, even a benchmark i would say,and i can assure u that there are more americans hate us than we hate americans. in the government level, i think the Sino-US relationship is not bad as many people think.

I see where you are coming from, and I appreciate the response. My frustration comes from the high regard I have for the Chinese people. As I have said before on this forum, in terms of mindset and culture, China is the closest to America in Asia. If there were ever a natural alliance, both because of these similarities, because of our relatively benign history, and because of lack of territorial disputes, it would be China-US. I despair that as long as this vast gulf of mistrust exists between us, our relationship is doomed to worsen, when by all rights it should be getting better.
 
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No reason, reality, or logic will penetrate this mentality. I give up.

Really?

-Who label China as cyber-espionage when U.S was performing espionage on China when we still have primitive PC and network during 1990s.
-Who call China as currency manipulator then U.S itself is manipulation the US dollard..without saying how you guys were ganging up with Europeans against Japan in Plaza accord.
-Who bash China human right abuse when you guys did the worst with capture prisioners.
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Some time, you Americans need to look yourself at the mirror to see if you guys are up to play the role of Angels or pretent to be a Saint...my logic is logical.
 
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In reality,there are many Vietnamese do business in Russia,and in fact,the neo-Nazis in Russia see no difference between Chinese and Vietnamese

Not all Russians are Neo-Nazis.

The Viet would be considered even more alien than the Chinese for the ordinary Russians.
 
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Not all Russians are Neo-Nazis.

The Viet would be considered even more alien than the Chinese for the ordinary Russians.
But Russia has better relation with Vietnam and India than with China,why should we ingore this?The Russians never trust China,they use Vietnam and India to counter China,we better to develope relation with the neiboughers of Russia like with Ukraine,in fact,the Ukrainians sell us something the Russians will never sell,and in Tymoshenko era,they sell more weapons to us
 
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Why is Russia exempt from Chinese rage against the "century of humiliation," and instead directs the rage at the US, which was not involved in dissecting China?

The Century of Humiliation narrative does not necessarily exclusively target the US. The present situation is not a "rage" against the US, as well. China is not a country arrested in the past but a bloody rational one, and, all signs indicate that, at present, the largest geopolitical (I would even say, existential) threat to China comes from the US government. But Chinese response is not a senseless, mass rage, rather, all China does does is to try to handle a well-programmed (with a lot of missteps and trials and errors, for sure) nation-building and strength-amassing strategy. Certainly, by simply growing, China disturbs the status quo. Hence the reason why the US government and its people feel like China does threaten the US. China does not; nature of things does.

On the other hand, it would be the naiveté of century if one would agree that US is benign, or even slightly friendly to China -- especially ever since the US government felt it was released from the Middle Eastern nightmare. The window of opportunity for sustainable great power relationship is closed, I believe. China has firmly partnered with Russia, obviously.

The hostility the US shows to China ranges from technology and economy to politics, sociology and culture. There is a frontal attack from the US with its civil, political and military society taking part in a fanaticism reminiscent of Middle Age's religious cults. The only reason your teeth do not penetrate deep is because China's skin is getting harder and firmer day by day. Believe me, even if you personally may hold a positive view of China, you will still not want to see the day China overtakes the US and changes the order of things, that is, your way of life. Because, sustaining your way of life requires that China not be No. 1 economic, cultural, and military power.

So, we should not mistake one thing for another: Due to globalization, there will certainly be more people-to-people exchanges; but these are often unrelated, unimportant lot (unless they are not undercover agents like the white guys we often sight at anti-China protests in Taiwan). Our respective governments will continue a cut-throat cold war that might even develop into proxy wars (although I do not expect direct confrontation -- not because you do not want, but because you cannot).

Greater interconnectedness, in fact, gives you, being the stronger party, additional leverage to play against China through a myriad of measures like academic anti-China-ism, social media manipulations, cyber attacks, sending agents as tourists to stir discontent inside China in the hope of a second Tienanmen, creating an academic discourse of China-threat, using your influence to stir anti-China sentiment in Taiwan (US AIT in Taiwan is actively working to alienate Taiwan from China), Japan etc., putting smaller nations against China etc. etc.

Yes, we are each other's business partners, but, I guess there is not much feeling of civilizational, cultural affinity similar to that which you share with, say, Europe. We will never take part a partnership under an institution like NATO. That's the truth.

Adversity and rivalry are fine for China. So long as you keep your cool, I guess, China can keep its. The historical struggle continues and no need to feign innocence or ignorance of what exists.
 
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You certainly cannot blame China for having wary views of America. Afterall we did engage each other in the Vietnam and Korean Wars, CIA was training Tibetans to rebel against China, putting sanction against China in '89, bombing Chinese embassy, the involvement of US in many military operations during the past few decades, the more China is growing the increase of American propaganda campaign can be found constantly. I understand the US doesn't like China replacing its' no 1 spot as the world's most important and biggest economy. Both countries mistrust each other and China has every right to question US's intentions regarding the China pivot.
 
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Really?

-Who label China as cyber-espionage when U.S was performing espionage on China when we still have primitive PC and network during 1990s.
-Who call China as currency manipulator then U.S itself is manipulation the US dollard..without saying how you guys were ganging up with Europeans against Japan in Plaza accord.
-Who bash China human right abuse when you guys did the worst with capture prisioners.
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Some time, you Americans need to look yourself at the mirror to see if you guys are up to play the role of Angels or pretent to be a Saint...my logic is logical.

Here we go again. Don't pretend you are offended by US spying on China. What about Larry Wu-Tai Chin, Gwo-Bao Min, Peter Lee, and Wen Ho Lee? We don't need to get into the unprecedented level of industrial espionage conducted by China against the US. Enough complaining about US spying.

Why shouldn't the US call China a currency manipulator? You manipulate your currency to keep it artificially weak. More importantly, have we retaliated with sanctions or tariffs? No. So enough.

You misunderstand the Plaza Accord. The Plaza Accord ended the artificial strength of the dollar (including against the Franc, Deutchemark, and Pound Sterling, not just the Yen), and was not aimed specifically at Japan. The other major central banks agreed because to not agree would have resulted in a massive US recession, which would have destroyed Europe and Japan's exports. This was the least costly move. Do you think we threatened them with nukes if they did not comply? Europe managed well, Japan did not. Now that you know, enough.

We bash China's human rights, and China has bashed our human rights for 15 years. The only difference is that you take it personally, we don't. Have we imposed sanctions against China over this, or labor rights issues? No, so enough.

I try to correct this constant stream of misinformation and demonization against the US, but it's exhausting.

We don't pretend to be saints, but you treat us like the devil. Why don't you look in the mirror, for once? You and other Chinese claim to resent meddling in domestic Chinese affairs, but what has the US done, really? Virtually nothing, just rhetoric. Enough excuses.
 
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But Russia has better relation with Vietnam and India than with China,why should we ingore this?The Russians never trust China,they use Vietnam and India to counter China,we better to develope relation with the neiboughers of Russia like with Ukraine,in fact,the Ukrainians sell us something the Russians will never sell,and in Tymoshenko era,they sell more weapons to us

I mean the ordinary people in Russia.

Here is some Chinese-Russian mix girls in the NE China, and do you think any of them has the potential to become a female Jean Ping?

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And this one looks like Anna Chapman, very interesting eh?

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I mean the ordinary people in Russia.

Here is some Chinese-Russian mix girls in the NE China, and do you think any of them has the potential to become a female Jean Ping?

H9f6tVf.jpg


e85QibE.jpg


QoGL8s5.jpg




And this one looks like Anna Chapman, very interesting eh?

DY34fnQ.jpg
我不关注这些二毛子,我只知道毛子在近代中国历史上罪大恶极,罪恶不下于日本,我们目前只是因为美国的原因相互利用而已,事实上双方没有信任,毛子与越南,印度的关系好得很,他们也从来没在领土争端问题上支持过中国
 
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