American attack aftermath: Pakistan declares attack a 'plot'

[VelocuR]

US apologizes to Pakistan

Islamabad—The United States of America on Saturday apologizes Pakistan over NATO attack on a check post and announced for a joint investigation regarding the attack.

US Ambassador Cameron Munter’s apology statement has been issued here.

In the statement he said that he heard about the attack from media and is sorry to know about loss of lives in the attack. Munter said the US and Pakistan will jointly investigate the issue. “I have seen press accounts of an incident on the Pakistani-Afghan border in which Pakistani soldiers were reportedly killed. I regret the loss of life of any Pakistani servicemen, and pledge that the United States will work closely with Pakistan to investigate this incident,” the statement said. —NNI

This is stupid cheap apology by the Cameron Munter, where is Obama?


What I want Pakistan is to shoot down 30 NATO helicopter equally immediately. That's it.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

How could an expat hurt you more than all the snakes you have living inside your own home? That simply does not make sense.

You are no expat.. ur an american.. do us a favour and change our sabz hilali frm tht profile of urs... ur disrespecting it!....Infact to be honest... ur a disgrace!

 

[VCheng]

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What I want Pakistan is to shoot down 30 NATO helicopter equally immediately. That's it.

Firstly, how, and secondly and more importantly, would you be ready for the response, should what you want actually happen?

 

[Bhairava]

What I want Pakistan is to shoot down 30 NATO helicopter equally immediately. That's it.

You think that is realistic ?

 

[VCheng]

Hi Omar - I have been away on business for a couple of days. Heard the terrible news of the sad sad loss of these soldiers. My heart goes out to the lost ones and of course the families too. What i am disappointed but not surprised is the lack of respect some moronic morons have in even threads like this. They should be thoroughly disgusted with themselves and their families should disown what they are. In certain moments like this if people are unable to feel the sadness or the passions in your heart for moments like this they should stop pretending to have any emotions and feelings for their nation of origin. Is it any wonder people like solomon2 look apon him as a friend? Is it any wonder all Pakistanis are disliking his behavior. I would request MastanKhan to revoke his title as an opinionator as i would be thoroughly ashamed to be in the same bracket as him.

I have already, and quite appropriately, expressed my sorrow at the loss of the soldiers. I salute them.

 

[VelocuR]

Firstly, how, and secondly and more importantly, would you be ready for the response, should what you want actually happen?

Yeah sure, we would definitely to response any means, no need to be fear. US/NATO continue to piss off Russia, China, Pakistan, others.

28 martyrs is acceptables ?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I have already, and quite appropriately, expressed my sorrow at the loss of the soldiers. I salute them.

Thank you very much... but they dnt need a salute frm a traitor... 180 million people salute them and honour them!

 

[VCheng]

Yeah sure, we would definitely to response any means, no need to be fear. US/NATO continue to piss off Russia, China, Pakistan, others.

28 martyrs is acceptables ?

The 28 martyrs are NOT acceptable for sure.

The rest of what you say is simply naive.

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............... 180 million people salute them and honour them!

...... as they should!

 

[American Pakistani]

A police officer guarded trucks, some containing NATO supplies, after Pakistan closed the Chaman border crossing on Saturday.

 

[fd24]

You are no expat.. ur an american.. do us a favour and change our sabz hilali frm tht profile of urs... ur disrespecting it!....Infact to be honest... ur a disgrace!

PN - I know of people like this they become more American than Americans. The fact that he is fully aware at the sensitivity of this thread and is still able to be so cold and oblivious to the emotions and feelings we all have with this thread. Ashamed - yes indeed thats something he is. Embarassment - yes indeed thats something he is. Disgrace? - In my opinion yes thats something he must feel he is - just my opinion - I will let you guys decide for yourselves how this attention seeking chap should be treated.

 

[American Pakistani]

Tensions Flare Between U.S. and Pakistan After Strike


By SALMAN MASOOD and ERIC SCHMITT

Published: November 26, 2011


ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Pakistani officials said on Saturday that NATO aircraft had killed at least 25 soldiers in strikes against two military posts at the northwestern border with Afghanistan, and the country’s supreme army commander called them unprovoked acts of aggression in a new flash point between the United States and Pakistan.

The Pakistani government responded by ordering the Central Intelligence Agency to vacate the drone operations it runs from Shamsi Air Base, in western Pakistan, within 15 days. It also closed the two main NATO supply routes into Afghanistan, including the one at Torkham. NATO forces receive roughly 40 percent of their supplies through that crossing, which runs through the Khyber Pass, and Pakistan gave no estimate for how long the routes might be shut down.

In Washington, American officials were scrambling to assess what had happened amid preliminary reports that allied forces in Afghanistan engaged in a firefight along the border with insurgents and called in airstrikes. Senior Obama administration officials were also weighing the implications on a relationship that took a sharp turn for the worse after a Navy Seal commando raid killed Osama bin Laden near Islamabad in May, and that has deteriorated since then.

“Senior U.S. civilian and military officials have been in touch with their Pakistani counterparts from Islamabad, Kabul and Washington to express our condolences, our desire to work together to determine what took place and our commitment to the U.S.-Pakistan partnership, which advances our shared interests, including fighting terrorism in the region,” said Caitlin Hayden, a spokeswoman for the National Security Council.

In a sign that the White House was trying to keep the situation from growing worse, President Obama was updated regularly throughout the day by Thomas E. Donilon, the national security adviser, Ms. Hayden said.

Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton; Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; and Gen. John R. Allen, the commander of the NATO-led forces in Afghanistan, all talked to their Pakistani counterparts to offer condolences and to promise an investigation, administration officials said.

Mrs. Clinton and Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta issued a joint statement late Saturday endorsing the investigation and offering their “deepest condolences” to Pakistan.

General Allen, in a separate statement, said, “This incident has my highest personal attention and my commitment to thoroughly investigate it to determine the facts.”

The strikes, which Pakistani officials said involved both helicopters and fighter jets, took place overnight at two military posts in Salala, a village in Pakistan’s Mohmand tribal region near the border with Kunar Province in Afghanistan. At least 40 soldiers were deployed at the posts, Pakistani military officials said, adding that NATO aircraft had penetrated roughly a mile and a half into Pakistan to make the strikes.

What remained unclear on Saturday, and what will be a main focus of NATO’s inquiry, was what exactly prompted the airstrikes and whether they were unprovoked or resulted from a communications mishap. A NATO spokesman, Brig. Gen. Carsten Jacobson, offered details suggesting that allied and Afghan troops operating near the border came under fire from unknown enemies and summoned coalition warplanes for help.

“In the early night hours of this morning, a force consisting of Afghan forces and coalition forces, in the eastern border area where the Durand Line is not always 100 percent clear, got involved in a firefight,” General Jacobson said, according to a transcript of his statements on NATO TV that the alliance provided American officials on Saturday. (The Durand Line is the colonial-era boundary between Pakistan and Afghanistan.)

“Air force was called in into this activity,” he said, “and we have to look into this situation of what actually happened on the ground.”

But several American and allied military, diplomatic and intelligence officials contacted on Saturday said it was unclear what threat, real or perceived, led to the airstrikes or why the allied aircraft fired on the Pakistani troops. “It’s real murky right now,” one senior American official said. “Clearly, something went very wrong.”

Such cross-border attacks have been at the heart of an increasingly hostile relationship between Pakistani and American officials. The United States has demanded that Pakistan do more to stop militants based in its territory, particularly from the feared Haqqani network and Al Qaeda, from crossing into Afghanistan to attack American forces. And United States forces in eastern Afghanistan say they have taken more mortar and rocket fire from positions at or near active Pakistani military posts in recent months, despite complaints to Pakistan about it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/27/w...nato-helicopters-kill-dozens-of-soldiers.html

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

Assalam alaikum

someone is saying the troops might have provoked the nato forces, pak troops were well inside our borders and nato had no right to come inside our borders

lanat uss baighariti per

TARIQ

 

[Omar1984]

Assalam alaikum

someone is saying the troops might have provoked the nato forces, pak troops were well inside our borders and nato had no right to come inside our borders

lanat uss baighariti per

TARIQ

According to Pakistani officials, the Pakistani troops were sleeping when NATO attacked them.

NATO is the biggest enemy of Pakistan. Forget about India not even India has ever did this to Pakistan.


And its highly likely they did this to send anti-pakistan elements across the border into Pakistan. NATO cant stand to see any peace in Pakistan so they send suicide bombers into Pakistan.

 

[VelocuR]

Where did Russia,China come into the equation and who are the 'others' ?

In a fight with US no one will come to your aid. Make no mistake about it.

I agree, no country would rescue Pakistan. What I am saying, US is not just focus only on Pakistan but also Russia and China South Sea. US can't afford attack Pakistan in open war. Please my dear Indian friend, thank you for your advices. I suggest you to dance now for the death of martyrs.

The 28 martyrs are NOT acceptable for sure.

The rest of what you say is simply naive.

NATO supply closed? Is that easy? I don't like this plain idea and boring.

Something more means to scare them. 30 helicopters must shot down, how much cost for these helicopters, curious?

 

[VCheng]

PN - I know of people like this they become more American than Americans. The fact that he is fully aware at the sensitivity of this thread and is still able to be so cold and oblivious to the emotions and feelings we all have with this thread. Ashamed - yes indeed thats something he is. Embarassment - yes indeed thats something he is. Disgrace? - In my opinion yes thats something he must feel he is - just my opinion - I will let you guys decide for yourselves how this attention seeking chap should be treated.

Being emotional to the point of losing logic and sanity is detrimental to the cause, hence my grip on being level headed is important here.