American attack aftermath: Pakistan declares attack a 'plot'

[RazPaK]

Salam meray Pakistani bhai/bhano, biradiri.

Humaray fauji ki liye zaroor du'waah karna, jo apni jaan is mulak ki liyeh kurbaan kar gey hain.

 

[RazPaK]

Salam meray Pakistani bhai/bhano, biradiri.

Humaray fauji ki liye zaroor du'waah karna, jo apni jaan is mulak ki liyeh kurbaan kar gey hain.

 

[Rig Vedic]

Something concrete that has come out -

Pakistan Cleared Fatal Hit, U.S. Says - WSJ.com

(if you don't have WSJ access, search for the title on Google news)

According to the initial U.S. account from the field, the commandos requested airstrikes against the encampment, prompting the team to contact a joint border-control center to determine whether Pakistani forces were in the area, a U.S. official said.

The border-control center is manned by U.S., Afghan and Pakistani representatives who are supposed to share information and head off conflicts. But the U.S. and Afghan forces conducting the Nov. 26 commando operation hadn't notified the center in advance that they planned to strike Taliban insurgents near that part of the border, the official said.

When called, the Pakistani representatives at the center said there were no Pakistani military forces in the area identified by the commandos, clearing the way for the Americans to conduct the airstrikes, the U.S. officials said.

So, here is the sequence of events, as per the reports -

1. NATO forces came under fire.
2. The border control center asked the Pakistanis if any of their forces were in the area.
3. The Pakistanis, unaware that an air-strike was imminent, issued a denial.
4. Then all hell broke loose.

 

[RazPaK]

So, here is the sequence of events, as per the reports -

1. NATO forces came under fire.
2. The border control center asked the Pakistanis if any of their forces were in the area.
3. The Pakistanis, unaware that an air-strike was imminent, issued a denial.
4. Then all hell broke loose.

So you're saying the Pakistani posts were covert and Nato had no idea where are posts were located?

Due to our share of intel and hosting of Nato forces at this post, I DO NOT BELIEVE IT.

 

[F.O.X]

Something concrete that has come out -

Pakistan Cleared Fatal Hit, U.S. Says - WSJ.com

(if you don't have WSJ access, search for the title on Google news)


So, here is the sequence of events, as per the reports -

1. NATO forces came under fire.
2. The border control center asked the Pakistanis if any of their forces were in the area.
3. The Pakistanis, unaware that an air-strike was imminent, issued a denial.
4. Then all hell broke loose.

This is the NATO side of story , which they are crafting to save their own As* , did someone asked the nato commander that why the hell did he continued the strike after it was confirmed that it was Pakistani post with Pakistani soldiers in it.

If it was just an accident Pak Army wouldn't be this furious ,

NATO/US messed up big time , and now they will pay , also they will learn the lesson to not trust Afg information.

 

[SMC]

Something concrete that has come out -

Pakistan Cleared Fatal Hit, U.S. Says - WSJ.com

(if you don't have WSJ access, search for the title on Google news)


So, here is the sequence of events, as per the reports -

1. NATO forces came under fire.
2. The border control center asked the Pakistanis if any of their forces were in the area.
3. The Pakistanis, unaware that an air-strike was imminent, issued a denial.
4. Then all hell broke loose.

And Iraq also had WMDs.

 

[deckingraj]

This is the NATO side of story , which they are crafting to save their own As* , did someone asked the nato commander that why the hell did he continued the strike after it was confirmed that it was Pakistani post with Pakistani soldiers in it.

If it was just an accident Pak Army wouldn't be this furious ,

NATO/US messed up big time , and now they will pay , also they will learn the lesson to not trust Afg information.

You are right but i am still not able to come up with terms of a possible objective of USA by a blatant attack on PA if not a mistake...can you help???

 

[soul hacker]

Rawalpindi – Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani on Thursday suspended command and chain system to counter any aggression on borders said The Nation a Pakistani paper. The Nation further added that General Kayani suspended the command and chain system in order to enable the senior officers on the posts to take appropriate action if Pakistani forces come under attack.

The Chief of the Army Staff issued these orders on Wednesday night. According to which, the Pakistani military officer in the area will be responsible for retaliation against any aggressors in that particular area and he will be provided all kind of assistance that he will ask for.
The sources further said the decision would, however, be applicable to eventualities involving NATO troops. The sources added that General Kayani also ordered the troops to counter any aggression with full force and defend the motherland against any assailant and for that they do not need to wait for any orders from the high command.
He also said that the Pakistan Air Force should have taken action when NATO helicopters violated the Pakistani airspace and attacked the Pakistani checkposts in Mohmand Agency last Saturday, the sources maintained. He further said the Air Force could not be called in as the communication system at the checkpost was destroyed in the Nato attack, the sources said.
Kayani ordered officers to utilise all resources at their disposal to give a befitting reply to the aggressors and they should not be spared.
The Army Chief also praised the jawans of the Azad Kashmir Regiment deployed at the border checkposts.
This was the first time after occupation of Afghanistan by allied forces that a Pakistani army chief, fed up of continuous border aggression, has issued such orders.

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

Thread starter

so what u suggest getting slapped by u.s and nato , jag hansai and still looking the other way?

I think it as this way. The gnat (Taliban) stings Wolf (NATO). The wolf takes its revenge on the Sheep (Pakistan)

actually knowing the u.s and nato they have more respect for taliban then this army ( 6th biggest army , nukes bla bla ) with its corrupt general

TARIQ

 

[desiman]

War on Nato aggressors, we will talk when some real action is actually taken, seems more like Kayani is trying to rope in as much as support as possible before this matter cools down.

 

[karan.1970]

As you are neither of the two sides, perhaps it is wiser to now let the 'two' sides sort it out?

I will take that under advisement..

But heads up... I dont think I will take the advise

 

[VelocuR]

Defence analyst Lt General (Retd) Abdul Qayum was of the view that local commanders will now not have to seek approval from their chain of command to return fire at the Nato fighter planes if they carry out “hostile manoeuvres on our soil.”


so will PAF protect Pakistan on West borders ?? Local commanders can ask PAF retailiate??

Kiyani speak BS lies again to satisfy audiences??

 

[karan.1970]

You know what you are doing.

The 2.5km point was not an isolated issue, you removed all other points, but you keep on mentioning that point.


Also NATO are bound to come up with their own version, unlikely to admit to murder, so what's the big fuss about their report, only useful unless you believe NATO will not lie, logically speaking they WILL lie.

And on the other hand, whats the big fuss about the ISPR report then.. Thats also useful only if you believe PA is not lying to cover up their part of the fault in this terrible incident..

 

[Pakistanisage]

I think the title of the thread is misleading and false. Pakistan has not declared a war on Nato. What General Kayani is recognizing is the fact that Pakistanis have a right of self Defense. That does not mean he has declared war on Nato. Every Nation retains the right to defend itself against foreign aggression. Pakistan should not attack Nato, but Pakistan should defend its borders vigorously and give a robust and overwhelming response if attacked.

 

[karan.1970]

Yep, according to this ex-Obama aide, next time Manmohan Singh won't be able to "hold back".

Now where have we heard that before?

Probably the same place where you heard "Attack on Pak will be considered an attack on China"

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Something concrete that has come out -

Pakistan Cleared Fatal Hit, U.S. Says - WSJ.com

(if you don't have WSJ access, search for the title on Google news)


So, here is the sequence of events, as per the reports -

1. NATO forces came under fire.
2. The border control center asked the Pakistanis if any of their forces were in the area.
3. The Pakistanis, unaware that an air-strike was imminent, issued a denial.
4. Then all hell broke loose.

Some how, "I Told you so" sometimes is just not enough