American attack aftermath: Pakistan declares attack a 'plot'

[iPhone]

The blockade will be over soon again.

well, America doesn't need our routes right? so it should tell Pakistan, keep your routes closed, we're going the other way. Why rely on such an unreliable ally's supply route which keep opening keep closing every few months effecting American opp. Go the other way, simple.

 

[IranZamin]

IRGC Commander Condoles with Pakistan over NATO Attack Casualties

"No doubt, this gruesome crime which was committed with full disrespect for the international rules once again unveiled the true face of those who make untrue claims about support for peace and friendship and respect for the nations' rights and displayed to the world their aggressive and barbaric nature and aspiration for attaining devilish goals and illegitimate interests," General Jafari said in a part of his message.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I posted a news article from Sunday times that mentions Mortar fire, which is quite possible on a 2.5 km range..

Bholay naas (insan) or Nath even
any thing at that range is a about and over 120mm and creates a big crator, it cant be disguised and cant be denied its pure BS.
it seems that the statements of NATO are morphing on the regular bases as soon as their previous claim is rubbished.
they claimed an automatic fire initially which only has an effective range round about give or take 1100 meters (machine guns).

 

[SQ8]

all those cases have arguments, US know they can't win, so they want to leave with a situation they can't lose.......
South never said those were acts of war, there was firing, pakistani troops fire at india consistently, we don't call them acts of war....
About brits, they got what they wanted, the falkland islands, so negotiations made sense after that.....

India is not allied with Pakistan, one expects that, we are in a undeclared state of war at the LOC on and off.
Operation black buck preceded the invasion of the falklands.

Here an ally attacked us, and what would have made sense as fratricide became murder when the ISAF forces refused to stop the attack even after being signaled it was blue on blue.

 

[VCheng]

and the facts from whom ? maybe you can tell us who you follow for the facts ... might be the facts you will get are not facts but just lies????

There are investigations on BOTH sides going on right now. Why not wait for both of them, and decide for yourself.

 

[SQ8]

Samah newsbeat program showing the post and its occupants a few days before the attack.
Will also show BBC report that falsifies facts.
Watch.

 

[rockstarIN]

Time to come out of this fcukin war. No more cooperation, no more supply routes. Let them drop their supplies from space for all we care.

Will the old Bush question again surface? You are with us or..?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

NATO apology not good enough: Pakistan army​

Published: November 28, 2011


ISLAMABAD: While foreign newspapers reported that the Nato attack on Pakistani troops in Mohmand Agency was provoked by firing from the Pakistani side, the Pakistani military denied the allegations and was critical of Nato’s apology.
Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Director General Major General Abbas said on Monday that Nato and Isaf are “trying to wriggle out of the situation” by claiming that the Pakistani troops fired at them first. Referring to the apology issued by Nato Chief Anders Fogh Rasmussen on Sunday, he told Express 24/7:

“This (apology) is not good enough. We strongly condemn the attacks and reserve the right to take action.”
Abbas said that the attack on Pakistani troops was “indiscriminate, highly callous and irresponsible”.
He reiterated that the Pakistani side did not fire towards the Afghan border, and said media reports that suggested otherwise are “untrue”.

“There is no reason for the fire to be initiated from our area,” he said, adding that Mohmand Agency has been cleared of militancy and that the army has regained control of the area.

“We have cleared the area and lost 70 officers in the operation already. Now we have to face the brunt of Nato from the other side?”

He stressed that the issue needs to be investigated, and the cause and use of weapons will be thoroughly explored.
In an interview on Sunday with British newspaper the Guardian, Abbas said he did not believe Isaf or Afghan forces received fire from the Pakistani side.

“I cannot rule out the possibility that this was a deliberate attack by Isaf,” said Abbas. “If Isaf was receiving fire, then they must tell us what their losses were.”

Pakistani army officials said the posts that were attacked were about 300 metres into Pakistani territory. Isaf officers, however, maintain that the border in that area is disputed.

Abbas told the Guardian that the firing lasted for over an hour, and that Isaf made “no attempt” to contact the Pakistani side.

“This was a visible, well-made post, on top of ridges, made of concrete. Militants don’t operate from mountaintops, from concrete structures.”

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NATO apology not good enough: Pakistan army – The Express Tribune

Pakistan has 'established the facts' and conducted its investigation and provided details into the incident, officially.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

There are investigations on BOTH sides going on right now. Why not wait for both of them, and decide for yourself.

very important thing that I want to highlight is, if there is an attack from Taliban in Kabul then the things can get even worse
if I was a taliban commander I would launch a suicide attack in Afghanistan that has a potential of causing heavy NATO/ Afghan casualities and then sit back with popcorns to enjoy another round of accusations from Afghan/ NATO side of ISI's involvement in the attack, that will yet again put the Pakistan on defensive and it will be declared guilty until it can prove otherwise.


how do you see the possible Nothern alliance mischief in this current attack? I mean they pretty much represent the Afghan national army and they are very candid in their hatred towards Pakistan, what better chance to inflict as much damage on Pakistan while the NATO forces are here?

 

[53fd]

The interesting thing is, this incident might result in some 'quiet days/weeks' on the drones front, in terms of the drone campaign in Pakistan. If the drones keep reigning in like they have even after this event, then we can all safely say that the US doesn't mind how adverse events transpire in Pakistan.

 

[Gin ka Pakistan]

From Dawn news
"The prime minister also said Pakistan had not yet decided whether to boycott next month’s Bonn conference on the future of Afghanistan."

SIMPLY SHAMELESS GOP

 

[iPhone]

Will the old Bush question again surface? You are with us or..?

I already mentioned in my previous post the old threats of bombing to stone age wont work this time around. Times have changed, people have changed. Anyway, many Indian members and some Pakistani members are arguing that the US doesn't need Pakistan's routes as much as Pakistanis like to think. That's why I say US/Nato should encourage the closure of these routes. Why push Pak gov't to open them if they don't need Pakistani supply routes. Simply question.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Defence Secretary Leon Panetta is more than likely behind this atrocity, either directly or indirectly - the CIA under him did much the same, at one point killing dozens of tribal leaders at a gathering in a drone strike after RD was released, despite strong opposition from the US ambassador and SD.

 

[Hulk]

If the news on Time about Pakistan requesting to stop the attack is true, it is cold blooded murder. Also seems to indicate that NATO does not believe PA.

 

[rockstarIN]

Defence Secretary Leon Panetta is more than likely behind this atrocity, either directly or indirectly - the CIA under him did much the same, at one point killing dozens of tribal leaders at a gathering in a drone strike after RD was released, despite strong opposition from the US ambassador and SD.[/QUOTE

If it is a deliberate act,you cant point out one person from the system coz he is outspoken.