Altaf spells out party priorities in address to Lahore rally

[Thorough Pro]

^Pakmarine:

I can pick the "passion" in your talk about "altaf bhai" - Just answer my one question - why should he be trusted who thinks that "the creation of Pakistan was the biggest blunder in human history".

Care to explain , to me it sounds like Altaf kodoo thinks that Quaid e Azam was wrong in creating Pakistan -- just bring some explanation .

If according to him creation of Pakistan was the greatest blunder in history then what the Fu*k was he and his family doing in Pakistan. And if this is some new discovery that his pinhead has made, then why the Fu*k is he concerned about any thing in Pakistan, he should go back with his mind and body to where he came from and have his arse handed to him by his Hindu fathers. I have never seen such an idiot in politics before let alone head a party and more amazingly I have never seen so many idiots following such an idiot.

 

[BelligerentPacifist]

This being the only post I saw only his thread, let me comment on a portion I find disgraceful:

... have his arse handed to him by his Hindu fathers....

That is academically untre since the said person is a shii3ah and their history in the subcontinent leads to...yes, arab fathers.

If according to him creation of Pakistan was the greatest blunder in history then what the Fu*k was he and his family doing in Pakistan. And if this is some new discovery that his pinhead has made, then why the Fu*k is he concerned about any thing in Pakistan...

Commenting on the other bit, just as a passing-by remark:
Why would you give Fazlur Rehman's father et al, Shahnawaz Bhutto, Bacha Khan and AA Maududi and single out Altaf H from among our oh-so-patriotic leaders, who all worked against Pakistan's creation or called ir Na........ or conspired against it at birth and ultimately became the lords over us once it was in place.

 

[Kambojaric]

What a joker man, If MQM are really serious about being a national party then firstly they need to get rid of this fat criminal, and next they should recruit local leaders (not celebrities) but real leaders from other provinces e.g. PPP has Jahangir Badar from Androon Shehr Lahore despite being a more Sindh oriented party. Unless they do this, they are nothing more than jokers when they try to act like the big political parties.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

He is a Mohajir?

or a Sindhi?

 

[Dance]

He is a Mohajir?

or a Sindhi?

Urdu Speaking aka "Mohajir"

 

[Karachiite]

He is a Mohajir?

or a Sindhi?

None. In true sense he's not a Mohajir since he didn't migrate from another country but was born in Karachi. He could be considered Sindhi as he's from Sindh but ethnically he's not Sindhi. He's an Urdu Speaker (yes people will call him Mohajir but in true sense he's not). And yes his family did migrate from India in 1947, some of his family members were killed by the government operation against urdu speakers in Karachi in the 90s.

 

[Thorough Pro]

This being the only post I saw only his thread, let me comment on a portion I find disgraceful:

That is academically untre since the said person is a shii3ah and their history in the subcontinent leads to...yes, arab fathers.


Commenting on the other bit, just as a passing-by remark:
Why would you give Fazlur Rehman's father et al, Shahnawaz Bhutto, Bacha Khan and AA Maududi and single out Altaf H from among our oh-so-patriotic leaders, who all worked against Pakistan's creation or called ir Na........ or conspired against it at birth and ultimately became the lords over us once it was in place.

I don't single out any one, all traitors are equal. I too belong to Karachi, my parents also migrated, my mom lost three brothers killed in fronth of her eyes by the hindus at the time of partition. Both my parents lost every one and every thing. My parents are still alive and my blood boils when I see such traitors talking nonsense like this.

 

[Thorough Pro]

None. In true sense he's not a Mohajir since he didn't migrate from another country but was born in Karachi. He could be considered Sindhi as he's from Sindh but ethnically he's not Sindhi. He's an Urdu Speaker (yes people will call him Mohajir but in true sense he's not). And yes his family did migrate from India in 1947, some of his family members were killed by the government operation against urdu speakers in Karachi in the 90s.

Short and correct answer would be hs is neither, both Sindhis and Mohajirs are Pakistanis, they sacrifised for Pakistan. He is a traitor.

 

[Karachiite]

Short and correct answer would be hs is neither, both Sindhis and Mohajirs are Pakistanis, they sacrifised for Pakistan. He is a traitor.

How exactly is he a traitor?

 

[mehru]

benazir ,zia ,mir murtaza ,bhuto , liaquat ali khan and other hundreds of murders are the reason why he doesnt want to come to pakistan hope this helps your curiosity , about the infrastructure mqm has done a good enough job in karachi when they were in power ...lastly altaf doesnt want to be the PM of pakistan !! where did you hear that ... any source or it just poped up in your mind!?

What about other leaders? Aren't their lives in danger? By your definition, every leader should stay out of Pakistan.

While i don't deny that MQM has done a lot of infrastructure work in Karachi but what about law and order? They are in coalition right now. Who is behind targeted killings? Don't say MQM has no hand otherwise you will join the denial brigade.

Yeah i know he doesn't want to become PM of Pakistan but you can't be that naive to understand that he is the founding leader of the party. It will be his policies that will be followed, not the PM. Consider the example of our present PM. It is Zardari all the way.

 

[mehru]

Him.. and some actual Balochis who do hate you and want a separate nation.
being an ostrich about the reality isnt going to help.
The first step to solving a problem is to admit its there..

And hope the fatso dies in London.. the party has a lot of potential.

The party has obviously a lot of potential minus Altaf. Infact i admire some of their members.

What is about them that could appeal masses? I think it is certainly their call for end of dynasty politics. So yeah this could attract people but then they also support PPP, PML-Q. Isn't it a contradiction?

 

[RazorMC]

Mustafa Kamal has handled the city development very well, but what about managing an entire country ? Is the MQM upto the task ? And how is it that MQM leaders in London have expensive houses and yet claim to represent the middle-class ? How did they get the money ? Please share the wonderful secrets with poor people like us...

 

[Thorough Pro]

How exactly is he a traitor?

Tell me honestly, ok don tot tell me or any body else, just ask yourself he claims to be representing the poor and suppressed class, He is living in London (one of the most expensive places in europe) for the last 10/15 years, and he is living a very good quality life, where is he getting the mony from? what does he do? he talks about feudals, what is he, can anyone in his party dare disagreet owhat he says? he is a tyrant, he can not stand any person from even within his own party to be famous, how can he ever bring democracy to the country. He burned Pakistan Flag. He brought the idea of Jinnah Pure? He openly delivered hate speeches against people of all provinces form time to time, look at the horror and mayhem he has caused to Karachi. I remeber Karachi from pre 85 when all the truble strted with the death of two student sisters by a minibus. And i remember the times when 200/300 inncoent people were murdered on daily basis, i remember the never ending strikes day after day killing all the business in Karachi and the poor daily wagers dependant on daily jobs. Son he alone has cause more trouble/ misery/ and loss to Karachi than all the war/corruption/inefficiency/loadshedding combined together from the day Pakistan became independant.

I had known many high up in the organization, Who killed Azeem Tariq? Who killed imran Faroooq? why was Mustafa kamal put under house arrest despite the whole Karachi loving him? who attempted on the life of Dr. Liaqat Hussain? and i am not even bringing up the issue of so many innocent Muhagir Main and Behnain, who sincerely voluntered to work ang ended up loosing their most valuable "thing".

Don't you know whats happening within MQM, how many groups are there? what kind of money is involved? what is happening in civil contracts? how suddenlt electricity shoprtage is created and how quicjly it disapppears. Its a blood sucking mafia created by blind support of innocent non suspecting Urdu speaking people, and they are payin gthe price? who looses30/40 cars daily who loses 100/121 motorcycles daily? who looses hundreds of mobiles daily? how manuy innocent get robbed on ATMs..

Do i need to say more? These days you can't trust any on eexcept your mother.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Mustafa Kamal has handled the city development very well, but what about managing an entire country ? Is the MQM upto the task ? And how is it that MQM leaders in London have expensive houses and yet claim to represent the middle-class ? How did they get the money ? Please share the wonderful secrets with poor people like us...

He managed it becaus eof the tyrannny of his party, becaus eof the monoply in Karachi, because in Karachi no one can dare challenge/question them. Country politics a a different balll game. Even musharf failed despite the whole army behind him.

 

[jahangeer yousaf]

Balochistan is not going anywhere ....... we do not have to cover the lots of ground as it was in 1971 ........ we have cant in balochistan army and intelligence is very much involved there .... zain bughti is no more around baramdagh has run away to swiz..........and balochis who were after punjabis and killing them are now hiding ............. army has very much control now ..... i do go to quetta and my relatives live there in balochistan sibi,harnaye quetta now they feel safe after the clean up operation by isi and army ..... may ALLAH bless pakistan