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Alleged "Terror boat" Sunk by Indian Coast Guard | Fact or Fiction?

Even if the boat was filled with suspected suicide bombers than they would had at least tried to collide their boat with Indian one to inflict maximum causalities but as Indian media says, boat was set on fire by potential suicide bombers/terrorist themselves lolz. That's not modus operandi of commando type terrorists.
all the better they were eliminated (if they were) from a distance if they had plans to collide their boat and kill our guys.

anyway, looks like they killed themselves like the cowards they were.. burn in hell, smuggler or jihadi, a rat is a rat..
 
@Oscar

You are clutching at straws here

If Indian fishermen are asked to stop by your Coast Guard and if they run away
what would your Coast Guard would have done

Indian Coast Guard did the RIGHT thing

They were asked to stop ; they didnt stop ; They are dead

Smugglers also smuggle in arms and explosives like it happened in 1993 Mumbai blasts

We will do such a thing again and again

This incident will put the fear of GOD in the minds of
terrorists and smugglers

Fishermen CANNOT run away against coastal guards at first place and even if the boat was filled with terrorists than no way in the world they can out run the navy ship with that wooden boat. What the hell you are smoking man ? How many fisherman of both the countries has escaped each other's navy in all these years ? They simply get caught only to end up in jail for few months. This looks planned,coordinated drama created by your navy and India govt. I wonder even the boat had some people or not or it was torched by burning poor fisherman, even smugglers alive, without even trying to make the arrests.

all the better they were eliminated (if they were) from a distance if they had plans to collide their boat and kill our guys.

anyway, looks like they killed themselves like the cowards they were.. burn in hell, smuggler or jihadi, a rat is a rat..
No. Even smugglers are not required to be killed like this way and what if they were just innocent fisherman. That's unacceptable. It won't go nice with our Navy once the investigation is completed which is being compiled by the PN right now regarding this incident. We may start firing at your fisherman than.
 
I dont need the pictures, the weather report being fudged up is clear enough indication that a lot was amiss. Why do I sense a desperation to rebuff this news item?
And thanks for the pictures, at least now we know that there was no explosion but a fire that started(supposedly by the smugglers.. who knows whether it was because of a round fired by the Indian Coast guard)..

This article has been written by someone, who has never been to sea in his life and neither have you...or you would have realised the conclusion being drawn are utter bull.

The weather report is indicating clear skies..does that mean the sea is not choppy or does not have a medium to heavy sells?

Met warning are not issued to fisherman below hurricane level winds or if low pressure system developing.
But that does not mean MOB resuce is possible in sea states 6 and above, especially if their swell...that is if the people on board did jump into the water.

A Normal vessel never approaches another vessel on fire(so that might not catch on fire itself) , unless it is firefighting ship equipped high pressure/heavy duty sea water pumps and hoses to extinguish the fire from afar.

A small fishing boat with a decent engine can do minimum 15 knots .

Where as coast guard ship can rarely do more that 25 knots..even though there specified maximum might be upto 30 knts
So this small boat notices ICG vessel even at 10 NM (minimum) and tries to flee it would take ICG ship over and hour to catch up with this vessel.

So where does the question of boat outrunning ICG vessel come from?
 
No. Even smugglers are not required to be killed like this way and what if they were just innocent fisherman. That's unacceptable. It won't go nice with our Navy once the investigation is completed which is being compiled by the PN right now regarding this incident. We may start firing at your fisherman than.
these people, whoever they were.. did not heed the warning shots !

if indeed they were "fishermen", or, even petty smugglers, you'd think they would surrender when a coast guard vessel is firing heavy calibre guns to signal them to stop ?

both sides detain/arrest hundreds of fishermen who cross over mistakenly.. this was not a regular incident.
 
What is India up to ? What if Pakistani coast guards returns the same flavor by killing some Indian fisherman ? who will be responsible for all this mess ? For once, rational Indians should realize the dangerous sensationalization Indian media is creating against both the countries ? Even Indian Govt released a press note after this drama, its highest level propaganda against Pakistan to engage them at eastern border as well from all the way to North to South.
I've said it on first day that they might be innocent fisherman lost their way and targeted by Indians. Who knows if their boat blew up by Indian side...?
Well you can rule out the "innocent" fishermen theory right now. These guys were wrongdoers in one way or another it looks as if they were merely smugglers not not something more sinister but the fact remains.
 
Well you can rule out the "innocent" fishermen theory right now. These guys were wrongdoers in one way or another it looks as if they were merely smugglers not not something more sinister but the fact remains.

But what were they carrying

Why did they run away

Why did they set fire to their own boat
 
o. Even smugglers are not required to be killed like this way and what if they were just innocent fisherman. That's unacceptable. It won't go nice with our Navy once the investigation is completed which is being compiled by the PN right now regarding this incident. We may start firing at your fisherman than.
Well your govt is denying these were even Pakistanis so I doubt that....


And your navy is investigating an incident that happened in Indian waters involving the Indian Coast Guard? If that's true (please provide sources) then not only does your navy have zero jurisdiction to do so but they are admitting these were Pakistanis and a Pakistani vessel.

Get your story straight buddy...

But what were they carrying

Why did they run away

Why did they set fire to their own boat
Precisely, these are the only questions that remain unanswered NOT were these poor "innocent" fishermen- this cane ruled out from the outset and we can even conclude they were Pakistanis given the intercepts emanated from Pakistan.
 
3 reasons why journalists like Praveen Swami attacked Indian narrative on Pak boat incident

3 reasons why journalists like Praveen Swami attacked Indian narrative on Pak boat incident
OpIndia Editor / January 3, 2015 / Media
OpIndia.com has already explained why the report by The Indian Express reporter Praveen Swami sounded like a hit-job against the Coast Guard in particular and the Indian security agencies in general.

The obvious question is why Swami, and other journalists who are sharing his highly speculative article like gospel truth, would do that?

Our team believes that it has to be one of these three reasons, or maybe combinations of these reasons:



1. There is a “Deep Throat” in the Indian government: Although Praveen Swami’s article is full of loopholes and it aims to counter some claims that were never made by the government in first place, it still quotes “sources”. So who are these “sources”?

If asked, Praveen Swami will either block you on Twitter or give a standard reply that a ‘journalist is not obliged to reveal his sources’. Indeed, a journalist may not choose to reveal his sources for various reasons, but he can’t just make up things when the national security is involved.

If we indeed believe that Swami has got some “sources” in the government or in the defense machinery, it means there is a whistleblower in the system who thinks that India is the aggressor vis a vis Pakistan.

It is a very serious charge. But we will still say that Praveen Swami doesn’t need to reveal who this whistleblower is. But at least say that there is one. Name him something like “Deep Throat”.

Mr. Swami, this is not the first time you have questioned Indian security agencies. Earlier also you had published reports that painted the Indian Army as aggressors. It is a serious charge. It means that our nation is not as pious as we believe.

However, Mr. Swami, we are not going to believe you just because you claim some “source” told you. And no, we are also not going to believe those who think this “source” is living across the border. But Mr. Swami, at least invent a name for this “source”, if you are not inventing reports.



2. Revenge attack for denying access: It is a well known fact that “access journalism” has received a major setback ever since Narendra Modi government took charge. Access journalism is where a reporter receives special treatment and “exclusive” information from government authorities, and later the same is published in newspapers as information coming through “sources”.

(a journalist also invents sources, but that’s another issue and we will let that go right now)

The Modi government is increasingly denying journalists such access. There have been many occasions when journalists have got information through Twitter feeds i.e. at the same time when any common man of the country got. This drying up of access has hurt the ego of many journalists who feel that their “power”, which is due to information asymmetry, is being threatened by the new government.

To get even with the government, the journalist has to flex muscle and show his or her “power”. And he or she can do it by planting speculative stories that hurts the image of the government.

This particular case could be one example of such revenge attack with a message to the government – “start giving us importance or we will malign your image and weaken people’s faith in you.”



3. Political dislike transforming into dislike for the establishment: Let’s accept it. Narendra Modi is indeed a divisive figure. He induces extreme emotions. People either love him or hate him.

With the mainstream media mostly dominated by people identifying themselves as left-liberal, most of them hate Modi. Now with Modi being the Prime Minister, this hate has overwhelmed them so much that now they have started hating the Indian establishment itself.

In such a scenario, a journalist starts disliking, distrusting, and hating everything about the Indian establishment – defense and external relations included. The enemy of enemy becomes a friend. And thus in this case, Pakistan becomes a “friendly state” while India becomes an “aggressor” for them – assumptions that pushed them to question the official narrative without waiting for details to emerge. In fact, our journalists raised questions before Pakistan did!

Please note that India is seeing such thing for the first time. Even the Modi supporters hated Sonia Gandhi a lot, but their dislike for Congress had not transformed into dislike for the establishment. When Praveen Swami had published reports questioning Indian Army’s narrative, many Modi supporters had chosen to believe the army and the UPA government over Swami’s “sources”.
 
& you are notorious for making up conspiracy theories & i am just stating the possibility that this may be another conspiracy theory to hide the involvement of Pakistani state or it' numerous other Non state actors

Do you really believe that your forces don't do fake encounters?
 
@Abingdonboy @Oscar

This incident has MANY positives from India's point of view

1 Actionable Intelligence inputs received
2 Well coordinated mission launched
3 From the thousands of fishing boats at sea AND in an area of thousands of
Square Kilometre The Indian Coast Guard spots a Suspicious vessel

4 The poor innocent smugglers try to run away and then burn their own boat

Now in future the other innocent smugglers will think hard
before undertaking such a voyage

ALL in all A job well done by ICG and the NTRO
It has boosted the MORALE of our security agencies
 
Some how i had a doubt about this incident, and that was evident from govt reaction......
 

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