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FairAndUnbiased said:
Britain $3 trillion economy sanctioning Chinese $18 trillion economy?

You ever hear of smaller economy sanctioning larger one? They should be lucky if we don't sanction them.
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UK got support from US and some EU nations on Uighurs genocide issues.

Expect more 25% tariff on more CN'S products:cool:
 
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aziqbal said:
House of Commons declares Uighurs are being subjected to genocide in China

The House of Commons approves a motion calling on the government to fulfil its obligations under international human rights law.
Greg Heffer, political reporter
Greg Heffer
Political reporter @GregHeffer
Thursday 22 April 2021 19:04, UK
Video has emerged purportedly showing Uighur prisoners bound and blindfolded at a train station in China

Image:An image purportedly showing Uighur prisoners bound and blindfolded at a train station in China
Why you can trust Sky News
MPs have declared that Uighurs and other ethnic and religious minorities in China's Xinjiang region are being subjected to genocide.
The House of Commons on Thursday approved a motion calling on the government to act to fulfil its obligations under international human rights law.

Although the motion passed by MPs is non-binding on the government, it will increase pressure on ministers to take a harder stance over the issue.
In January, the US declared China had committed genocide in its repression of the Uighurs, while national parliaments in Canada and the Netherlands have also made the same declaration.
But Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said, for the UK, the attribution of genocide is a matter for the courts.

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Nusrat Ghani MP

Image:Nusrat Ghani., who moved the motion, is among five MPs to have been sanctioned by China
During Thursday's debate in the Commons, former Conservative leader Sir Iain Duncan Smith urged the government to "rethink their position".

"We will not gain any particular friendship by not calling out genocide from the Chinese," he told MPs.
More from China
"It is simply not a tradable item. The UK government has said endlessly - and I understand this - that only a competent court can declare genocide, that is absolutely the original plan.
"But the problem is that getting to a competent court is impossible.
"At the United Nations it is impossible to get through to the International Court of Justice, it is impossible to get through to the International Criminal Court as China is not a signatory to that and therefore will not obey that."
Sir Iain told MPs that trying to get China to sign up to international pledges on climate change should not be a "balancing point" when considering whether to take action over Beijing's treatment of Uighurs and other minority groups.
"These are all abuses which must be called out," he added.
"Whether or not we need China to cooperate on other matters, we cannot simply say that one matter is worth some sacrifice over the other. It is not."
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'Time for UK to call Uighur treatment genocide'
In his contribution to the debate, the ex-Tory leader also referenced Sky News' Asia correspondent Tom Cheshire's recent reporting about the treatment of Uighurs working in other parts of China.
Conservative former minister Nus Ghani, who moved the motion in the Commons on Thursday, acknowledged some MPs were "reluctant to use the word genocide".
"For many, the word will forever be associated with the horrors of the Nazi concentration camps and I agree with colleagues that we should never diminish the unique meaning or power of this term by applying it incorrectly," she said.
"But there is a misunderstanding that genocide is just one act - mass killing. That is false."
Ms Ghani - who was among five MPs China recently imposed sanctions on for "lies and disinformation" about the country - said genocide concerns intent to "destroy in whole or in part" a national, ethnic, racial or religious group.
"All five criteria of genocide are evidenced as taking place in Xinjiang," she added.
Liberal Democrat foreign affairs spokeswoman Layla Moran said: "If we end up being proved to be wrong because an independent, UN inspector goes in and is allowed to do their work and it's shown that we all got the wrong end of the stick, then I would welcome that.
"But I would rather be wrong now than be on the wrong side of history later."
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Uighur workers advertised on Chinese internet
Speaking on behalf of the government in the Commons, Foreign Office minister Nigel Adams highlighted how the UK recently sanctioned Chinese officials over activities in Xinjiang.
He also pointed to UK export controls on goods from Xinjiang, the government's calls for the UN's high commissioner for human rights to have "urgent and unfettered access" to the region, and joint international action against China.
But Mr Adams repeated that the UK's "longstanding position, like many countries around the world, is that determining whether a situation amounts to genocide or crimes against humanity is an issue for competent national and international courts".
In April 2016, MPs previously voted to say the Yazidis suffered genocide at the hands of Islamic State.
After her motion was approved by MPs, Ms Ghani said: "China's attempt to intimidate parliament into silence has backfired.
"The elected House has spoken and chose to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with our international allies, the Uighur people, and all those who have been sanctioned.
"Our hard won parliamentary democracy will always stand up for what is right and remain free from foreign interference."
The Muslim Council of Britain expressed its hope MPs' approval of the motion would prompt the governmment to "fulfil its obligations under the Geneva Convention of 1948 and be spurred on to take more substantive action against the egregious human rights abuses being committed against the Uighur people".
Ms Ghani's motion stated: "That this House believes that Uighurs and other ethnic and religious minorities in the Xinjiang Uighur autonomous region are suffering crimes against humanity and genocide; and calls on the government to act to fulfil its obligations under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide and all relevant instruments of international law to bring it to an end."
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House of Commons declares Uighurs are being subjected to genocide in China

The House of Commons approves a motion calling on the government to fulfil its obligations under international human rights law.
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The main problem is most of the so called Muslims these days are Hypocrites. In Islam the worst people are identified as Hypocrites. The reason I say that British Empire was responsible for the biggest massacre of Millions of Human beings OVER MANY CONTINENTS.

1- Responsible for establishing Slave trade from Africa and in the process killing and raping millions of men, women and children.
2- Responsible for establishing Royal African Company responsible for conquest and killing of millions of Africans.
3- Responsible for spreading smallpox epidemic in North America resulting in decimation of hundreds and thousands of Native American population. Rape and plunder of their women and kids, and destruction of their cities.
4- Responsible to transport of thousands of convicted criminals to the colonies who went on a killing spree to wipe thousands of more native Americans.
5- Responsible for the East India Company, which killed millions of People in the Sub-continent. Rape and plunder and millions.
6- Responsible for The Great Famine of Bengal which killed over 10 million people.
7- Responsible for the Opium Wars between China and Britain resulting of thousands of Chinese deaths and destruction of great cities, and enslavement of Chinese people.
8- Responsible for death and destruction of hundreds and thousands of native people of Australia and New Zealand.
9- And the list goes on and on, and ON

SO @aziqbal , STOP TALKING FROM YOUR BEHIND AND STOP BEING A HYPOCRITE ! The weight of the truth is so much that the entire Universe can bend based on this, and here you are with your little personal ego trying to bend the truth, and taking sides for people who have caused the most destruction in this Planet.

We need to be on the side of the truth, and not on the side of the Evils. The importance of House of Commons these days is nothing more than someone relieving themselves on a street.
 
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FairAndUnbiased said:
they tariff our products? lol OK we raise prices 25%, what are they gonna do?
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what are they gonna do ? They just sit and watch rich Cnese like Xiaomi, Luxshare, Foxconn etc flee to VN to avoid 25% tariff:lol:

More CN workers will lose jobs in Foxconn factories. :lol:
 
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aziqbal said:
House of Commons declares Uighurs are being subjected to genocide in China

The House of Commons approves a motion calling on the government to fulfil its obligations under international human rights law.
Greg Heffer, political reporter
Greg Heffer
Political reporter @GregHeffer
Thursday 22 April 2021 19:04, UK
Video has emerged purportedly showing Uighur prisoners bound and blindfolded at a train station in China

Image:An image purportedly showing Uighur prisoners bound and blindfolded at a train station in China
Why you can trust Sky News
MPs have declared that Uighurs and other ethnic and religious minorities in China's Xinjiang region are being subjected to genocide.
The House of Commons on Thursday approved a motion calling on the government to act to fulfil its obligations under international human rights law.

Although the motion passed by MPs is non-binding on the government, it will increase pressure on ministers to take a harder stance over the issue.
In January, the US declared China had committed genocide in its repression of the Uighurs, while national parliaments in Canada and the Netherlands have also made the same declaration.
But Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said, for the UK, the attribution of genocide is a matter for the courts.

Advertisement
Nusrat Ghani MP

Image:Nusrat Ghani., who moved the motion, is among five MPs to have been sanctioned by China
During Thursday's debate in the Commons, former Conservative leader Sir Iain Duncan Smith urged the government to "rethink their position".

"We will not gain any particular friendship by not calling out genocide from the Chinese," he told MPs.
More from China
"It is simply not a tradable item. The UK government has said endlessly - and I understand this - that only a competent court can declare genocide, that is absolutely the original plan.
"But the problem is that getting to a competent court is impossible.
"At the United Nations it is impossible to get through to the International Court of Justice, it is impossible to get through to the International Criminal Court as China is not a signatory to that and therefore will not obey that."
Sir Iain told MPs that trying to get China to sign up to international pledges on climate change should not be a "balancing point" when considering whether to take action over Beijing's treatment of Uighurs and other minority groups.
"These are all abuses which must be called out," he added.
"Whether or not we need China to cooperate on other matters, we cannot simply say that one matter is worth some sacrifice over the other. It is not."
Please use Chrome browser for a more accessible video player
skynews-uighur-china_5343996.jpg





Play Video - 'Time for UK to call Uighur treatment genocide'

'Time for UK to call Uighur treatment genocide'
In his contribution to the debate, the ex-Tory leader also referenced Sky News' Asia correspondent Tom Cheshire's recent reporting about the treatment of Uighurs working in other parts of China.
Conservative former minister Nus Ghani, who moved the motion in the Commons on Thursday, acknowledged some MPs were "reluctant to use the word genocide".
"For many, the word will forever be associated with the horrors of the Nazi concentration camps and I agree with colleagues that we should never diminish the unique meaning or power of this term by applying it incorrectly," she said.
"But there is a misunderstanding that genocide is just one act - mass killing. That is false."
Ms Ghani - who was among five MPs China recently imposed sanctions on for "lies and disinformation" about the country - said genocide concerns intent to "destroy in whole or in part" a national, ethnic, racial or religious group.
"All five criteria of genocide are evidenced as taking place in Xinjiang," she added.
Liberal Democrat foreign affairs spokeswoman Layla Moran said: "If we end up being proved to be wrong because an independent, UN inspector goes in and is allowed to do their work and it's shown that we all got the wrong end of the stick, then I would welcome that.
"But I would rather be wrong now than be on the wrong side of history later."
Please use Chrome browser for a more accessible video player
skynews-uighur-china-factory_5343114.jpg





Play Video - Uighur workers advertised on Chinese internet

Uighur workers advertised on Chinese internet
Speaking on behalf of the government in the Commons, Foreign Office minister Nigel Adams highlighted how the UK recently sanctioned Chinese officials over activities in Xinjiang.
He also pointed to UK export controls on goods from Xinjiang, the government's calls for the UN's high commissioner for human rights to have "urgent and unfettered access" to the region, and joint international action against China.
But Mr Adams repeated that the UK's "longstanding position, like many countries around the world, is that determining whether a situation amounts to genocide or crimes against humanity is an issue for competent national and international courts".
In April 2016, MPs previously voted to say the Yazidis suffered genocide at the hands of Islamic State.
After her motion was approved by MPs, Ms Ghani said: "China's attempt to intimidate parliament into silence has backfired.
"The elected House has spoken and chose to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with our international allies, the Uighur people, and all those who have been sanctioned.
"Our hard won parliamentary democracy will always stand up for what is right and remain free from foreign interference."
The Muslim Council of Britain expressed its hope MPs' approval of the motion would prompt the governmment to "fulfil its obligations under the Geneva Convention of 1948 and be spurred on to take more substantive action against the egregious human rights abuses being committed against the Uighur people".
Ms Ghani's motion stated: "That this House believes that Uighurs and other ethnic and religious minorities in the Xinjiang Uighur autonomous region are suffering crimes against humanity and genocide; and calls on the government to act to fulfil its obligations under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide and all relevant instruments of international law to bring it to an end."
news.sky.com

House of Commons declares Uighurs are being subjected to genocide in China

The House of Commons approves a motion calling on the government to fulfil its obligations under international human rights law.
news.sky.com news.sky.com
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You're out of bed again!
 
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FairAndUnbiased said:
Britain $3 trillion economy sanctioning Chinese $18 trillion economy?

You ever hear of smaller economy sanctioning larger one? They should be lucky if we don't sanction them.
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yes and the same tiny Britain conquered 1/4 of the global for over 250 years

the same tiny island wiped out the Qing Dynasties 1,000 ship navy in 24 hours

like now China has built dozens of warships and cant stop Royal Navy Carrier entering Taiwan straits, 5000 sailors + Marines are on the way, only making empty tin cans with no knowledge will not benefit you

quality is a quantity in itself, quantity means nothing only good for youtube videos
 
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beijingwalker said:
I got banned by starting new Xinjiang or Uyghur threads instead of merging everything about Xinjiang and Uighur into that megathread, but this OP guy keeps openning new threads about Xinjiang and Uyghurs, provoking and flame baiting Chinese posters intentionally scott free, just because he is a "PDF think tank analyst"?
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Exactly bro, its time for "IT" to pay for constantly breaking the forum rules
@waz please take appropriate action, thanks
 
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beijingwalker said:
I got banned by starting new Xinjiang or Uyghur threads instead of merging everything about Xinjiang and Uighur into that megathread, but this OP guy keeps openning new threads about Xinjiang and Uyghurs, provoking and flame baiting Chinese posters intentionally scott free, just because he is a "PDF think tank analyst"?
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Unfortunately you're correct, looks like "ITS" apparently above the forum after all, sad but true
 
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ARMalik said:
The main problem is most of the so called Muslims these days are Hypocrites. In Islam the worst people are identified as Hypocrites. The reason I say that British Empire was responsible for the biggest massacre of Millions of Human beings OVER MANY CONTINENTS.

1- Responsible for establishing Slave trade from Africa and in the process killing and raping millions of men, women and children.
2- Responsible for establishing Royal African Company responsible for conquest and killing of millions of Africans.
3- Responsible for spreading smallpox epidemic in North America resulting in decimation of hundreds and thousands of Native American population. Rape and plunder of their women and kids, and destruction of their cities.
4- Responsible to transport of thousands of convicted criminals to the colonies who went on a killing spree to wipe thousands of more native Americans.
5- Responsible for the East India Company, which killed millions of People in the Sub-continent. Rape and plunder and millions.
6- Responsible for The Great Famine of Bengal which killed over 10 million people.
7- Responsible for the Opium Wars between China and Britain resulting of thousands of Chinese deaths and destruction of great cities, and enslavement of Chinese people.
8- Responsible for death and destruction of hundreds and thousands of native people of Australia and New Zealand.
9- And the list goes on and on, and ON

SO @aziqbal , STOP TALKING FROM YOUR BEHIND AND STOP BEING A HYPOCRITE ! The weight of the truth is so much that the entire Universe can bend based on this, and here you are with your little personal ego trying to bend the truth, and taking sides for people who have caused the most destruction in this Planet.

We need to be on the side of the truth, and not on the side of the Evils. The importance of House of Commons these days is nothing more than someone relieving themselves on a street.
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So that makes what China is doing to her minorities okay? Also China is like the net destroyer of the planets quite like literally from pollution to plain old extraction of resources. So chinese can't complain either.

Whataboutism is a logical fallacy in case you didn't know.
 
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Reashot Xigwin said:
China is like the net destroyer of the planets quite like literally from pollution to plain old extraction of resources.
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All those were invented by the west through the first industrial revolution, why you don't accuse them of starting it and being the dominant world polluter and resources extractor for centuries until the recent decades?
 
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