ALL Xinjiang related issues e.g. uyghur people, development, videos etc, In here please.

[ZeEa5KPul]

Makes me imagine vividly what Uighurs would have to listen to while they're being tortured and raped.

LMAO @ tortured and raped. No, they're not tortured and raped. They sing Party songs, learn Chinese, and stitch simple garments. Which is far better than the alternatives they had: being illiterate and violent vagabonds resentful that all the employment opportunities are going to Han Chinese instead of them because they lack any employable skills, living in exile in a Turkish slum, or becoming a suicide bomb for ETIM in Syria.

There's nothing Islamophobic in what I said or what I think. I think Chinese Muslims should remember that they're Chinese first and Muslim second. If they can't remember that, they will be reminded.

 

[BL33D]

LMAO @ tortured and raped. No, they're not tortured and raped. They sing Party songs, learn Chinese, and stitch simple garments. Which is far better than the alternatives they had: being illiterate and violent vagabonds resentful that all the employment opportunities are going to Han Chinese instead of them because they lack any employable skills, living in exile in a Turkish slum, or becoming a suicide bomb for ETIM in Syria.

There's nothing Islamophobic in what I said or what I think. I think Chinese Muslims should remember that they're Chinese first and Muslim second. If they can't remember that, they will be reminded.

woah the threat level on your comment is off the charts ? " will be reminded" do you mean exterminating anyone who doesnt believe in the state ?

 

[fisher1]

There's nothing Islamophobic in what I said or what I think.

China doesn't think it's doing any wrong re-enacting a holocaust either. That's the issue with brains of oppressors, they think they're doing good.

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

China doesn't think it's doing any wrong re-enacting a holocaust either. That's the issue with brains of oppressors, they think they're doing good.

Wow, you're just a sucker for everyone's propaganda, aren't you? You're liking an Indian poster's comments. I'm sure someone like you who is professionally outraged by any slight Muslims suffer around the world knows what India does to Muslims, right? Why don't you give him one of your indignant lectures instead of liking his posts, hmm?

 

[BL33D]

Wow, you're just a sucker for everyone's propaganda, aren't you? You're liking an Indian poster's comments. I'm sure someone like you who is professionally outraged by any slight Muslims suffer around the world knows what India does to Muslims, right? Why don't you give him one of your indignant lectures instead of liking his posts, hmm?

First of all we have one of the worlds largest muslim population and they are elected and represented in the highest political and executive posts in the country. We have problems in Kashmir which we are trying to solve, and people all over the world either praise or criticize and PDF members here plenty bash us, but even they would agree that we dont have a genocide plan for them, its a different fight, which is political and isnt motivated by Islamophobia. Dont distract the topic by bringing India here. Face your demos yourself.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

As I said, you cannot always have the things in your way. There is always some give-and-take. Why mosque demolition is such a bad thing? China is a crowded country. Mosque building means it often needs to demolish something else on that site. Have you even given a slightest thought about what demolishing that makes other people feel? Not everyone is a fan or friendly towards Islam, considering so many negative news around the world.

so if we go to beijing and demolish forbidden city, will u say the same

 

[BL33D]

so if we go to beijing and demolish forbidden city, will u say the same

Savage

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Didnt i say "would be". If you would need indian roads and air space to move to the other half of your country, its safe to say you would be dependent



Oh yes there is a lot of negative attached to Islam, but demolition of mosques and putting them in camps is the best way to solve that, my oh my, i always respected chinese brains in science and tech and warfare. truly. but your social and humanitarian thoughts are utterly lacking.

read my post again!

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Sir, with respect, what facts and proof do you have the average Uighur is doing better now? Have you heard of what the Turks have been saying? What the Indonesians are?
I do not care how similar or different the situation is.
If people are being forced to so called "vocational" camps. If children are being separated from mothers, and wives from their husbands. Then its "OPPRESSION" and God hates oppression, and I as a Muslim cannot say one form of oppression is better than another. I should rather question my morality and faith, if I lack the ability to decipher a wrong from the deception and lack the ability to question things and then stand on what is right.




You will do diplomacy with an oppressor? Will try to negotiate sense into their brains filled with nonsense and lack of understanding of anything beyond the physical world they live in?

But then again, we are a country who are so cut off from our creator than we even get bullied by the likes of Afghanistan, completely dependent on other nations for our survival...let alone trying to stand up against an oppressor be it China or any other.

Once again, like many posters here,you are directly equating oppression of Muslims with security measures being taken against separatism. You are deliberately obfuscating the issue. Pakistan or ksa or Iran or any Muslim nation would take similar steps to curb separatism. China is not at war with Islam or Muslims or mosques or Islamic graveyards or halal beef. Unlike some other nations, China is happy for Muslims to be Muslims, as long as they are loyal to China. And since China is not marching into the Hejaz any time soon or threatening to build a temple in al aqsa, I see no problem in befriending China.

God made us into different tribes, so that we may know one another, NOT constantly engage in war with one another.

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

Since China is committing a "genocide" in Xinjiang, apparently, can you name one person who was executed in these so-called concentration camps?

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Then why doesnt china allow press freely to interview and look at those camps if it has nothing to hide, dont give that whole conspiracy against china narrative, it wont be a topic if it didnt have any truth to it.


If you mean someone who is strong enough to stand for their priciple, yes youre right.He is one of the most unbiased persons on here, he bashes India on any opportunity but doesnt spare his countries allies for their wrong doings.

You're being deliberately disingenuous. You know full well that airtime depends on agenda. Palestinians being brutalized will get no media coverage.

 

[BL33D]

read my post again!

What, am i missing something , i still stand by my words, you surely would have been dependent, come on

You're being deliberately disingenuous. You know full well that airtime depends on agenda. Palestinians being brutalized will get no media coverage.

Palestine gets plenty coverage, the whole world knows about the situation, everyone gets to know what happens, missile fired we get to know, people killed we know, hamas does something in israel we get to know, dont conflate the issue. If you dont like foreign press, then pakistan press shoud go and investigate there, or chose whatsoever method you think is good for clarification but do that, but without doing anything dont blame the world for blming china.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

What, am i missing something , i still stand by my words, you surely would have been dependent, come on

we traded through sea sunshine, never used yr transit routes ever in history. only u have used ours to trade with Afghanistan which is also stopped since a few years.

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

First of all we have one of the worlds largest muslim population and they are elected and represented in the highest political and executive posts in the country. We have problems in Kashmir which we are trying to solve, and people all over the world either praise or criticize and PDF members here plenty bash us, but even they would agree that we dont have a genocide plan for them, its a different fight, which is political and isnt motivated by Islamophobia. Dont distract the topic by bringing India here. Face your demos yourself.

You want to bring up your "democracy"? Alright, let's talk about that. At least 14.2% of India's population is Muslim (by the 2011 census), it's very likely higher. Muslim MPs hold 27 seats out of 545 in India's parliament, i.e., 5%. None of those MPs are from the BJP, the dominant political party.

That's some real election and representation, right there.

 

[BL33D]

we traded through sea sunshine, never used yr transit routes ever in history. only u have used ours to trade with Afghanistan which is also stopped since a few years.

Again i am saying would be, and about sea route, plz agree with my next sentence, a smll change in air course costs airlines and ships millions, you think a full shiproute around indian peninsula be viable in 21st century, and back then the tension was too high to let air space happen.

Again i am saying would be, and about sea route, plz agree with my next sentence, a smll change in air course costs airlines and ships millions, you think a full shiproute around indian peninsula be viable in 21st century, and back then the tension was too high to let air space happen.

Lets let go of that topic, its just mind masterbation cuz it didnt happen, my bad for mentioning it.

You want to bring up your "democracy"? Alright, let's talk about that. At least 14.2% of India's population is Muslim (by the 2011 census), it's very likely higher. Muslim MPs hold 27 seats out of 545 in India's parliament, i.e., 5%. None of those MPs are from the BJP, the dominant political party.

That's some real election and representation, right there.

Wow, a country that has a head of state for life wants to teach us democracy. Muslims hve been the president of India, their less representation is an issue, and the parties are trying to improve it, we ain't china, we are not going to deny the wrongs in our society, we are not perfect, but we r way better than china for us to listen to their advice on it. Please have your jail of a society with a billion CCTV watching and rating you. Again diverted the topic. Good job.