ALL Xinjiang related issues e.g. uyghur people, development, videos etc, In here please.

[Pakhtoon yum]

Han people from north east China are much taller and fairskinned while from the far south are shorter . darker and look somewhat south eastern Asian.


Why? Which part of the map you don't agree with?


I started this thread with no intention to demean Pakistan, I didn't even know they were Pakistanis, Pakistani Mod and posters don't have to be that hostile and accuse China in every thread no matter if they are related or not.

Circumstances(mostly the doings of the communist regime) has lowered the the love for China, immensely. Basically if this doesnt stop then it will turn into hate. The ignorance and islamophobic rhetoric by Chinese members on PDF also isnt helping, China.

The map is BS, in accordance to Pakistan because they're are white, black and brown southerners, just like with northerners. It's stupid and incorrect to paint it with such a broad brush.

 

[beijingwalker]

Circumstances(mostly the doings of the communist regime) has lowered the the love for China, immensely. Basically if this doesnt stop then it will turn into hate.

Always remember,it goes both ways.

The map is BS, in accordance to Pakistan

Ok, don't you know name is Pakistan.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Always remember,it goes both ways.


Ok, don't you know name is Pakistan.

What goes both ways?
Name of what? Southern regions are parts of sindh and balochistan.

 

[beijingwalker]

What goes both ways?

Love and hate go both ways, you hate someone and you don't expect that someone will love you either. But as I mentioned, some people want to turn my every thread into a China bashing and accusation ones, that's pathetic. we don't come here to attack other countries, we are here promote our respective nations.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Love and hate go both ways, you hate someone and you don't expect that someone will love you either. But as I mentioned, some people want to turn my every thread into a China bashing and accusation ones, that's pathetic. we don't come here to attack other countries, we are here promote our respective nations.

Talk to me after you take that trip to Xinjiang. Looking forward to your posts from there. Do make sure you record the azan and people praying

 

[Indos]

I think they look more middle easterners than south Asians, I thought they must be from some middle east nations.

South Asian is quite divers, particularly Pakistan, here are Pakistani volley ball team.

Pasthun Women

Punjabi Women

Former Foreign Minister, Hina Rabbani

 

[vi-va]

South Asian is quite divers, particularly Pakistan, here are Pakistani volley ball team.

Pasthun Women

Punjabi Women

Former Foreign Minister, Hina Rabbani

Former Foreign Minister, Hina Rabbani is amazing. I like her for quite a few years. I saw her visiting India years back and Indian's bad mouth all over youtube about her voice.

I watched all her interview about Pakistan foreign policy, especially relationship with India, straight forward and insightful.

She was born in a rich family, well educated, elegant and stylish.

 

[Indos]

Former Foreign Minister, Hina Rabbani is amazing. I like her for quite a few years. I saw her visiting India years back and Indian's bad mouth all over youtube about her voice.

I watched all her interview about Pakistan foreign policy, especially relationship with India, straight forward and insightful.

She was born in a rich family, well educated, elegant and stylish.

I am agree on you bro, she is a good representative for Pakistan. I also saw her interview in Al Jazeera and I must admit that she is a combination of strong and clever beside being attractive. Usually foreign ministers are men but she can break up that stereotype while being professional, young and pretty.

 

[Dubious]

Pakistan should support your Hollywood and go to the world stage. The diversity in ethnics and cultures is the fortune for good movies, musics and drama.

I cant tell if you are being sarcastic or not...

If not...

1. Why should Pakistan support Hollywood? Or do you mean our Hollywood? We got Lollywood (L for Lahore)
2. We have been on and off world stage - preforming folk and pop music (less to do with facial features and more to do with talent)
3. Yes ethnics and culture is good for movies and drama we got few musicians from different backgrounds...

While posting pics why you choose Indian punjabi women instead of pakistani Punjabi. Pakistani women don't dress like that.

I was choosing facial features over dress...

That's a very strange accusation, first, very few minority groups pray, and the numbers of Han Christians and Buddists are hundreds of millions, they are not ethnic minorities. Second, China has countless churches, Buddist templse and mosque sin every city, town and even village where we see people pray all the time, why do you say they can't pray, should I believe my own eyes or you say so?

You claimed they cant pray in public places even institution! When I was in Europe, I had told them I prayed 5x a day, my institute told me I am free to use any free classroom/ seminar room to pray.

When the West accuse you of oppression, this is the difference they base it on!

I can post more pictures showing China's diversity than you do, but that's not my point, my point is China has over 100 million minorities, the reason why China is usually being consider as a homogeneous nation is because over 90% of her population is Han, that's also true. But those who really traveled in China are still amazed by China's diversity, if you go to Tibet, Xinjiang, some part of inner Mongolia..., each of those regions is bigger in size than Pakistan and you sense that you are not traveling in China.

China is homogeneous, yes, China has great diversity, yes.

I think to answer this ...you can read another member's post!

Actually, the people that you call as Han is not a single ethnicity. They're more diverse than you think. But they're culturally similar; because they have been sinicized for a very long time, since the old dynasties of China. And Hui Muslim is actually not a single ethnicity, either. There are some Han in them, also. They're Hui because they're Muslim. Hui = Islam, that's why they call Islam as Hui Ciao (Hui religion).

In Han, there are Hakka, Min Nan, Canton, etc.

That is interesting ...I know few Hakka and Fochow/ Fuzhou (I though it was just a language language also Hokkian)

You see when over 90% is 1 group (irrespective of how diverse you think that group is...it is still over 90%)

The groups I showed you of Pakistanis:

Punjabi - these can be ethnically Punjabi or another Ethnic group staying in Punjab for a few generations and therefore even the group Punjabi is diverse! And within each ethnic group of Pakistan we also have cross marriages...So you can easily find a Punjabi Kashmiri or something...some groups are like naturally mixed like Sindhi Baloch and so on...

So EACH group is diverse between OTHER groups and WITHIN the group itself! THIS is not the case when you have 90% of 1 group being diverse within yet being 1 group representing 90% is showing more homogeneity than anything! Its like 10% away from being clones!

Han people from north east China are much taller and fairskinned while from the far south are shorter . darker and look somewhat south eastern Asian.

Can you give examples with pictures of some of these "diverse" people?

I started this thread with no intention to demean Pakistan, I didn't even know they were Pakistanis, Pakistani Mod and posters don't have to be that hostile and accuse China in every thread no matter if they are related or not.

This isnt accusing but pointing out something you agreed to and admitted after months of people pointing out the EXACT same thing!

As for demeaning any country...China isnt demeaned if that is how you people behave and consider a norm! I mean the West has been screaming about basic human right abuse but it is not like China has bothered to give its approach a second look! We have a saying "sharam usko atti hai jisko sharam ka pata ho" -only he / she who knows what is shame can be ashamed!

Love and hate go both ways, you hate someone and you don't expect that someone will love you either. But as I mentioned, some people want to turn my every thread into a China bashing and accusation ones, that's pathetic. we don't come here to attack other countries, we are here promote our respective nations.

Why do you feel "bashed" for pointing out the "normal" in China? So you do know it is wrong then? Coz if it was "normal" and "ok" you would feel proud someone is pointing out what you country is doing!

Talk to me after you take that trip to Xinjiang. Looking forward to your posts from there. Do make sure you record the azan and people praying

I dont expect them to have adhaan...even West has no Adhaan! So that is irrelevant!

 

[beijingwalker]

Talk to me after you take that trip to Xinjiang. Looking forward to your posts from there. Do make sure you record the azan and people praying

When did you take that trip? Why do you take that trip too?

Can you give examples with pictures of some of these "diverse" people?

I have threads about Tibet, Inner Mongolia, Xinjiang, Guangxi... tons of photos you can check.

Ethnicitis in Xinjiang alone

This isnt accusing but pointing out something you agreed to and admitted after months of people pointing out the EXACT same thing!

As for demeaning any country...China isnt demeaned if that is how you people behave and consider a norm! I mean the West has been screaming about basic human right abuse but it is not like China has bothered to give its approach a second look! We have a saying "sharam usko atti hai jisko sharam ka pata ho" -only he / she who knows what is shame can be ashamed!


Why do you feel "bashed" for pointing out the "normal" in China? So you do know it is wrong then? Coz if it was "normal" and "ok" you would feel proud someone is pointing out what you country is doing!


I dont expect them to have adhaan...even West has no Adhaan! So that is irrelevant!

You can talk about it, but do you think putting every thread into that debate is good? This thread has nothing to do with what you are accusing China of doing, you just jumped in accusing China out of nowhere. The west also accused Pakistan the worst human rights and religious persecution abuser, so if you accept what they say about China, you also have to accept what they say about Pakistan.

 

[Dubious]

Ethnicitis in Xinjiang alone

So these are your minorities ...I am asking about the diversity in the 90% HAN

You can talk about it, but do you think putting every thread into that debate is good?

No, but you never answer it in the thread it is intended to!

This thread has nothing to do with what you are accusing China of doing, you just jumped in accusing China out of nowhere.

No, it doesnt have anything to do with the thread and that is why I am willing to move all my posts to the relevant thread where you never seem to answer

The west also accused Pakistan the worst human rights and religious persecution abuser, so if you accept what they say about China, you also have to accept what they say about Pakistan.

We Pakistanis do admit there are SOME problems and on the other thread I did clarify the Asia bibi case which was one of the bigger cases that the West had entangled itself in!

So when will you have the balls to admit there is some wrong in what China is doing?

 

[yantong1980]

Talk to me after you take that trip to Xinjiang. Looking forward to your posts from there. Do make sure you record the azan and people praying

It's YOU that should drag your lazy ars* to Xinjiang and 'record' what do you to know directly into your brain-SEE IT for YOURSELF. DO NOT TELL Chinese poster here what to do, you're just like other poster here. Your problem is YOURS, BLAMING others not an SOLUTION.

 

[Dubious]

Whatever you say, I saw them being banned by you one after another, soon the only ones left will be your like minded buddies. Congrats.

lolz
If you really feel there was some unfair banning

As per forum rules, you are allowed to challenge the "ban" (which again was a 3rd strike)...3 strikes at once is a ban...Now if your countrymates are going to come on the forum drunk, abuse and BS other members and nationals...then they will get nothing but a ban!

Instead of arguing with me, tell them to be in their best behavior...We arent their parents to tolerate their BS! We have rules, you break them you go..Simple...like in China you get punishment for breaking some laws!

You are free to challenge ANY strike that I have given your countrymen! Take the case to GHQ!

don't represent China, I represent myself, a Chinese poster, that's it.

Good to know there is still hope for the Chinese people since you dont represent China!

 

[beijingwalker]

"concentration camps" girls classic team dance

"concentration camps"women train to become makeup artists

 

[TheTruth]

lolz
If you really feel there was some unfair banning

Good to know there is still hope for the Chinese people since you dont represent China!

"Uyghur persecution" is nothing more than an unsubstantiated lie by Western MSM and you're drinking up every drop. They don't even need to give you a shred of proof. Disgusting.

And the Han Chinese are very diverse, unlike almost all ethnic groups in the world the Chinese are tolerant enough to have wide genetic variation in their ethnic group.