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An Independent East Turkestan will be bad for Pakistan

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@MH.Yang
You've recently wrote on Russian/Ukrainian war thread that China doesn't have any re-education schools/detention centres for Uighur Muslims. The western world disagrees and alot of information is available to show something is going on in Xinjiang.

I understand there were some extremist elements who needed to be dealt with but how is China dealing with the wider population?

Keep in mind, the western media claims the re-education schools/detention centre force Muslims to eat food which is against our religion, forces women to sleep with men, amongst other things. Has China allowed any international human right organisations to attend Xinjiang to see what is happening etc.

Human rights organizationas such as Human Rights Watch and Amnesty are all Western puppets with their own agendas against non-western countries and esp "enemies" of the West. The UN Human Rights high commissioner just visited Xinjiang weeks ago and she couldn't find anything wrong and now she is under West's attacks. The world should scrutinize the violent racial attacks and hatred discrimination against colored minorities that are widely spread in the US and the West. Who trust anything from American and Western media esp on China and Russia these days ?
 
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Sorry, but Shang-Chi, Master of Kung fu, disagree.

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Around me, life in Cell 202 began over and over again beneath the relentless flourescence that flattened all sense of night and day. So this was detention: a rotation of measly meals brought in by deaf-mute cooks, chosen for their disability so they could not disclose what was afoot here. Congee or cornstarch slurry or cabbage soup, stale bread, one egg a week. I lost a lot of weight -- so much that my index fingers and thumbs met when I squeezed my waist.​
There are too much evidences, from satellites to personal testimonies. Denying what is going on with the Uyghurs in China is like Americans denying institutional slavery existed in the US, and that a civil war occurred because of it.
Show your f advanced American satellite pictures of concentration camps of actual Uyghers in Xinjiang then. Don't just kiss up to your white masters based on BS nothing concrete. You should be really worried about the real genocides of Native Americans, slavery of blacks and the violence and hatred against colored minorities that are still widely perpetuated in your country ! You Americans the worst human rights violators in human history, yet have the audacity to always accuse others of committing heinous human rights crimes that are totally BS and only you Americans are capable. You Americans will just blatantly lie about your enemies in order to destroy them just as you did in Vietnam war fabricating that North Vietnamese navy attacked US navy in South China sea in order to wage war on North Vietnam and the US used a bottle of detergent in UN meeting to prove or blatantly lie about that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction in order to wage war on Iraq. Your secretary of State Pompeo swaggers of the US into the bright light: “We lied, we cheated, we stole." and your country are proud of such behaviours ! Absolutely shameless !

 
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Would China allow independent human rights to visit and see what is happening. First China denied any centres but then claimed they're boarding schools for Uighurs, this includes people from all ages. It would be concerning if they force people to leave their religion and culture, like forcing them to shave beards and eating unIslamic food, sleeping with men etc.

How can you say you China never used concentration camps? Have you visited Xinjiang? At times the general population doesn't know what is happening but government is doing harm. What is the purpose of these re education centres?

The western world bombed Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and killed 10000s but western population doesn't hold them accountable, the point is at times general population doesn't know and they follow what the government/media says.

Chordo Bhai

There was extensive deshatgardi done by the ETIM and they were hiding up all in Waziristan and allied with TTP.

China is also the only other country taking Kashmir seriously as they are constnalty pushing preassure on the LAC while our Papa John Defense Force signed a ceasefire on LOC.

Bro Imran Khan stood up for Palestine how many of these Palestinian activists uttered a word about his departure? :rofl:

Chordo.
 
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China to allow Turkish delegation to come to Xinjiang 2 months after UN human rights chief's visit​


Fri, August 5, 2022, 5:30 PM

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China has said it will welcome a Turkish delegation to Xinjiang, two months after the United Nations human rights chief visited the region to investigate allegations of widespread abuses.

On the sidelines of a meeting of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations in Cambodia, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi told his Turkish counterpart Mevlut Cavusoglu on Wednesday that "China has always taken an attitude of being open and transparent on issues related to Xinjiang".

Wang pledged to communicate closely over the issue and added that, as emerging economies, the two countries had closely intertwined interests and similar positions, and should promote cooperation, according to a Chinese foreign ministry statement.

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Cavusoglu said Ankara firmly adhered to the one-China policy not only on the Taiwan question but also on issues concerning Xinjiang, according to the Chinese statement.

He added that the Turkish side was glad UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Michelle Bachelet had visited Xinjiang and hoped to stay in contact with Beijing over the planned tour.

The two sides did not provide further details of the visit.

Bachelet's trip was the first to China by a UN human rights high commissioner since 2005. Beijing said it "achieved positive and practical results", but the United States voiced "deep concern" over China's alleged "efforts to restrict and manipulate" the visit.

The Chinese government has been accused of forced sterilisation and mass internment of members of the Uygur ethnic group and other Muslim minorities in the far-western region - an allegation it has repeatedly denied, insisting the internment camps are vocational training centres for deradicalisation and to tackle terrorism.

After the visit, Bachelet said that while she could not assess the full scale of the "vocational education and training centres", she was concerned about the lack of independent judicial oversight of the facilities, allegations of the use of force and "unduly severe restriction on legitimate religious practices" inside the centres.

She also called on Beijing to review all its counterterrorism and anti-radicalisation policies to make sure they complied with international human rights standards.

The issue of Xinjiang has also been among the most sensitive issues in Chinese-Turkish relations and Ankara's support could be potentially important to China as it plays host to an estimated 50,000 Uygurs, the largest diaspora outside Central Asia.

Beijing has said the two countries should respect each other's sovereignty and is worried that an initiative from Ankara to strengthen the political role of the Organisation of Turkic States - a name adopted last November - will increase its influence among Turkic-speaking groups, including the Uygurs.

The group, which was first established in 2009 as the Cooperation Council of Turkic-speaking States, has its headquarters in Istanbul.

Its other members are Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan, with Turkmenistan and Hungary as observer states.

On Wednesday, the two sides also talked about food security challenges caused by the war in Ukraine. The Turkish side also called for a more balanced economic and trade relationship and more frequent direct flights between the two countries.

 
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China's Xinjiang to invest ¥80 billion ($12.54 billion) yuan in transport infrastructure in 2022​

 
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China to allow Turkish delegation to come to Xinjiang 2 months after UN human rights chief's visit​


Fri, August 5, 2022, 5:30 PM

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Mevlut Cavusoglu and Wang Yi on the sidelines of meetings of foreign ministers on East Asia cooperation in Cambodia. Photo: Xinhua alt=Mevlut Cavusoglu and Wang Yi on the sidelines of meetings of foreign ministers on East Asia cooperation in Cambodia. Photo: Xinhua>

China has said it will welcome a Turkish delegation to Xinjiang, two months after the United Nations human rights chief visited the region to investigate allegations of widespread abuses.

On the sidelines of a meeting of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations in Cambodia, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi told his Turkish counterpart Mevlut Cavusoglu on Wednesday that "China has always taken an attitude of being open and transparent on issues related to Xinjiang".

Wang pledged to communicate closely over the issue and added that, as emerging economies, the two countries had closely intertwined interests and similar positions, and should promote cooperation, according to a Chinese foreign ministry statement.

Do you have questions about the biggest topics and trends from around the world? Get the answers with SCMP Knowledge, our new platform of curated content with explainers, FAQs, analyses and infographics brought to you by our award-winning team.

Cavusoglu said Ankara firmly adhered to the one-China policy not only on the Taiwan question but also on issues concerning Xinjiang, according to the Chinese statement.

He added that the Turkish side was glad UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Michelle Bachelet had visited Xinjiang and hoped to stay in contact with Beijing over the planned tour.

The two sides did not provide further details of the visit.

Bachelet's trip was the first to China by a UN human rights high commissioner since 2005. Beijing said it "achieved positive and practical results", but the United States voiced "deep concern" over China's alleged "efforts to restrict and manipulate" the visit.

The Chinese government has been accused of forced sterilisation and mass internment of members of the Uygur ethnic group and other Muslim minorities in the far-western region - an allegation it has repeatedly denied, insisting the internment camps are vocational training centres for deradicalisation and to tackle terrorism.

After the visit, Bachelet said that while she could not assess the full scale of the "vocational education and training centres", she was concerned about the lack of independent judicial oversight of the facilities, allegations of the use of force and "unduly severe restriction on legitimate religious practices" inside the centres.

She also called on Beijing to review all its counterterrorism and anti-radicalisation policies to make sure they complied with international human rights standards.

The issue of Xinjiang has also been among the most sensitive issues in Chinese-Turkish relations and Ankara's support could be potentially important to China as it plays host to an estimated 50,000 Uygurs, the largest diaspora outside Central Asia.

Beijing has said the two countries should respect each other's sovereignty and is worried that an initiative from Ankara to strengthen the political role of the Organisation of Turkic States - a name adopted last November - will increase its influence among Turkic-speaking groups, including the Uygurs.

The group, which was first established in 2009 as the Cooperation Council of Turkic-speaking States, has its headquarters in Istanbul.

Its other members are Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan, with Turkmenistan and Hungary as observer states.

On Wednesday, the two sides also talked about food security challenges caused by the war in Ukraine. The Turkish side also called for a more balanced economic and trade relationship and more frequent direct flights between the two countries.


Why not let Turkish go with other muslim countries delegation to Xinjiang?
 
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Xinjiang is overwhelmed by the tourists from all over China to beat the summer heat​


Xinjaing is overwhelmed by the tourists from all over China to beat the summer heat. Tens of millions of tourists from all over China swarmed Xinjiang province to beat the summer heat.

Roads in the mountains are packed with cars, rent of the hotels go up to over 1,600USD per night, even simple B and B home lodging goes up to over 200USD per night, but still they had been long booked up, tons of people have to sleep in their cars or simply set up tents and live in them.

The tickets for Tourist itinerary trains go up to 7,500USD each, but they were all sold out. Travelers jokingly say that there are more tourists than sheep on the Xinjiang grasslands, wherever a place that a car can fit in was taken.

 
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Tourists from all over China flock into Tashkurgan Pamir Plateau Tajik region, the signifcant increased number is beyond what the local travel agencies of this remote rural small town could possibly handle
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what i like is people wearing masks in this picture. covid still killing 15000 every week.
 
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This area is just several kilometers away from Pakistan, literally just a stone throw, if Pakistan can fix its security issues, China's tourists alone can contributate an enormous share into Pakistan's economy and the Chinese tourists no longer have to be packed like sardines in Xinjiang only.
 
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This area is just several kilometers away from Pakistan, literally just a stone throw, if Pakistan can fix its security issues, China's tourists alone can contributate an enormous share into Pakistan's economy and the Chinese tourists no longer have to be packed like sardines in Xinjiang only.
power games being played in Pakistan by US and its slaves.... right now their only priority is to clung to the throne!
 
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you lock up 1 million Muslim Ughurs

do turn Muslims into Han Chinese

you killed HK people and enslaved Tibet

and you send flithy Han Chinese into these areas and claim its tourism ?

China is another Israel only on a higher scale
 
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you lock up 1 million Muslim Ughurs

do turn Muslims into Han Chinese

you killed HK people and enslaved Tibet

and you send flithy Han Chinese into these areas and claim its tourism ?

China is another Israel only on a higher scale
Keep ranting, the only thing you are good at. lol..
 
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Really a nice place to beat the summer heat, but this is a little bit over the top though, it's still damn August...

Summer snow hits Xinjiang mountains, cools temperatures to below zero

 
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