ALL Xinjiang related issues e.g. uyghur people, development, videos etc, In here please.

[beijingwalker]

Have you been to Xinjiang? Have you seen those internment and "reeducation camps"??

Have you?

 

[Brainsucker]

Why the news from Jakarta Post, about Muhammadiyah (Indonesian Islamic Organization) officials fact finder in Xinjiang is vanish from this thread? Does the witness from Indonesian respected Islamic Organization is not worthed to be mentioned in this Xinjiang issue?

I give the benefit of the doubt to the mods in this matter. Because I trust them. Because, maybe it is unintentional act.

 

[vi-va]

Not only the US, Russia and China but now even the UN hates Islamism. Your days of hiding behind moderate Muslims are over. Get ready to be re-educated!

Hey, I don't think it's the right way to communicate with our Pakistan friends. We should understand and respect our Pakistan friend here.

You are helping Indians and they are laughing. Don't make enemies unnecessarily.

Not only the US, Russia and China but now even the UN hates Islamism. Your days of hiding behind moderate Muslims are over. Get ready to be re-educated!

If Catholicism, Protestantism and Judaism are not the tags for extremism. "Islamism" should NOT be the tag for extremism. I guess it was invented by Zionist.

Please stop using Islamism. Seriously.

 

[Beast]

Oh don't worry, it's not me making the claims. It's uighurs who've made many of these claims and also a few kazakh workers who got caught up in the whole thing in east turkestan.

Like this one?

 

[Arsalan 345]

I recommend all pakistani members to stop targeting Chinese on this Muslim issue.china has Muslim population even in Beijing.remember they are our friends and not our enemies.they helped us so many times and Muslim issue in China is Chinese internal matter.china is not a nation who can kill it's own citizens and who are we to criticize? We should look at our own country first.unity between China and Pakistan is necessary.whatever Chinese are doing in camps is their own internal matter.pakistan is not master of entire Muslim world.you guys are following this Muslim issue like it's our own issue.why you guys don't work hard like Chinese and follow their footsteps so that we can also make our country prosperous? I urge every Chinese and pakistani friend to stop arguing with each other.i respect China as a nation and China also respects us.

 

[Beast]

Terrorism in Pakistan is different than the one in China, just like it's different in India vs. Pakistan.

One is a foreign funded movement while the Uighur is a home grown movement. You can't deny it. What you can do is open threads on PDF and troll those that put forth the truth.


On topic:

Some mod has deleted two of my posts on this thread.

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When have I trolled and insulted someone? Look at these Chinese trolls and propagandists...they open 10 threads on PDF each day to showcase Uyghurs living a good and happy life.....and when someone says otherwise, they start trolling that person, his country of origin and the country he's currently living in.

Looks like the mods are taking sides too rather than accept the truth and the reality.

Acting innocent? I can bet your post delete are fill with personal insult and generalise whole Chinese, full with vulgarity.

I recommend all pakistani members to stop targeting Chinese on this Muslim issue.china has Muslim population even in Beijing.remember they are our friends and not our enemies.they helped us so many times and Muslim issue in China is Chinese internal matter.china is not a nation who can kill it's own citizens and who are we to criticize? We should look at our own country first.unity between China and Pakistan is necessary.whatever Chinese are doing in camps is their own internal matter.pakistan is not master of entire Muslim world.you guys are following this Muslim issue like it's our own issue.why you guys don't work hard like Chinese and follow their footsteps so that we can also make our country prosperous? I urge every Chinese and pakistani friend to stop arguing with each other.i respect China as a nation and China also respects us.

They are some too dumb to fall into American trick. The American who doing all means to destroy pakistan and China are having a good laugh when they see these replies from us fighting each other instead of generating the energy on fighting US imperialism.

@waz @Dubious

Please move this thread under the consolidation of xinjiang thread

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/all-...c-in-here-please.621888/page-25#post-11553398

 

[Dubious]

China says reached 'broad consensus' with U.N. after Xinjiang visit

BEIJING (Reuters) - China and the United Nations have reached a “broad consensus” about counter-terror work, China’s Foreign Ministry said on Sunday after a controversial visit by a senior U.N. official to the restive far western Chinese region of Xinjiang this week.

The United States and other western countries objected to a visit by the U.N. counterterrorism chief to Xinjiang, where U.N. experts say some one million ethnic Uighurs and other Muslims are held in detention centers.

Diplomats said that along with the United States several other countries, including Britain, complained about the trip of Vladimir Voronkov, a veteran Russian diplomat who heads the U.N. Counterterrorism Office.

U.S. Deputy Secretary of State John Sullivan spoke with U.N. Secretary-General António Guterres on Friday “to convey deep concerns” about Voronkov’s trip because “Beijing continues to paint its repressive campaign against Uighurs and other Muslims as legitimate counterterrorism efforts when it is not”.

In a brief statement, China’s Foreign Ministry said that Voronkov had visited Beijing and Xinjiang from June 13-15, meeting senior diplomats including Vice Foreign Minister Le Yucheng.

The two sides “had a deep exchange of views on the international counter-terrorism situation and counter-terrorism cooperation between China and the United Nations, and reached a broad consensus”, the ministry said, without giving details.

China and the world need to stand together to fight terror, and China supports the work of the United Nations Counter-Terrorism Office, the statement added.

China has been condemned internationally for setting up the detention complexes, which it describes as “education training centers” helping to stamp out extremism and give people new skills.

Voronkov visited Xinjiang before U.N. human rights chief Michelle Bachelet, who has repeatedly pushed China to grant the United Nations access to investigate reports of disappearances and arbitrary detentions, particularly of Muslims in Xinjiang.

Guterres raised the plight of Muslims in China’s Xinjiang region with the Chinese government’s top diplomat, State Councillor Wang Yi, during a visit to Beijing in April.

Chinese President Xi Jinping has been in the Central Asian state of Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan over the past few days, where he has spoken of the importance of fighting extremism and terror.

As part of Belt and Road, we will help countries built re-education camps for militant Islamists. Let one hundred flowers bloom!

This is a very vague article at best it doesn't tell anything! Please also provide the source and the poor author who wrote it!

Thank you

 

[rott]

" As part of Belt and Road, we will help countries built re-education camps for militant Islamists. Let one hundred flowers bloom! "

Remember that the chinese even throw people in these camps for wanting to wear niqab. Will we be sending Imran Khan's wife to a camp?

These aren't camps for militants. These are camps for normal Muslims. The soviets waged a war against Islam in central asia, the chinese communists are simply taking on the role.

You should give up religion. It's a fucking disease to humanity.

 

[Dubious]

@Dubious Let me tell you one thing about graveyard in chinese mind, that you dont know because of different culture and belief.

Why there is no graveyard in the city? He is not wrong. because chinese believe in feng shui and graveyard is bad for fengshui. Thats why no developer will build a city near graveyard

Oh no. This is why i hate using smartphone to open pdf. Wrong quote and triple post because of bad connectiom.

Sorry pan. I supposed to quote @Dubious

Edit : Ok, I have edit it via my laptop.

So is the article wrong?

 

[Dubious]

Acting innocent? I can bet your post delete are fill with personal insult and generalise whole Chinese, full with vulgarity.


They are some too dumb to fall into American trick. The American who doing all means to destroy pakistan and China are having a good laugh when they see these replies from us fighting each other instead of generating the energy on fighting US imperialism.

@waz @Dubious

Please move this thread under the consolidation of xinjiang thread

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/all-...c-in-here-please.621888/page-25#post-11553398

I will do that later ....unless some other mod does it

You should give up religion. It's a fucking disease to humanity.

Kindly don't troll...civilised people don't talk like that...

If you dont like something keep your opinion to yourself and stop spreading hatred it is reason enough to get you banned
Kindly mind it

 

[Beast]

lol such lies...

The 2009 Urumqi Riots started after the killing of 2 Uyghurs (more killed according to independent media) in the Shaoguan incident where a group of Han Chinese killed Uyghurs working in a toy factory. A Han Chinese worker at the factory even claimed to have killed 5-8 Uyghurs (very proudly; disgusting creatures).

So, after these incidents, the Urumqi protests started in the Xinjiang region to protest the killings of their fellow ethnic members. Rioting began after police confronted the peaceful march and started using excessive force. Han Chinese were killed after they confronted the protestors too.



That is because the Chinese government re-settled whole Xinjiang region with Han Chinese people from outside the region so as to dilute the population of the Uyghurs and other Muslim minorities.

You can stop spreading half truths and lies on PDF. We all can use the internet to find and spread the truth.

American Pakistanis... How much CIA or white American feeds you with misinfo? True Pakistanis never trust this overseas pakistanis. They are holding US passport while bragging loyalty for Pakistan.

Who recognized Jerusalem as capital of Israel? Its US and not China. The one destroying islam worldwide is American.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Can somebody find a more nuanced, effective and smart solution to the terrorist problem than China's one ? China has the Xinjiang région just next to major terrorist centers like Afghanistan and Northern Pakistan, and that's on top of the separatists, and that's on top of the fact that the CIA would love to exploit that to destabilize China. And yet the province is stable and developing rapidly. China uses carrots and sticks, whereas the US tried it with only military actions and it failed horribly everytime they tried. China's solution is not only much more civilized and human but also much more effective.

Hello, ignorant person
Northern Pakistan has been the most peaceful region in all of south Asia. This just shows your knowledge about the whole situation

You should give up religion. It's a fucking disease to humanity.

You should Stop breathing while your at it. @WebMaster @waz

Acting innocent? I can bet your post delete are fill with personal insult and generalise whole Chinese, full with vulgarity.


They are some too dumb to fall into American trick. The American who doing all means to destroy pakistan and China are having a good laugh when they see these replies from us fighting each other instead of generating the energy on fighting US imperialism.

@waz @Dubious

Please move this thread under the consolidation of xinjiang thread

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/all-...c-in-here-please.621888/page-25#post-11553398

Oh plz. A Pakistani questioning what's going on doesnt make him an idiot, brainwashed by the west. I know it's hard for you to grasp the idea of free thought, knowing the situation of the country you live in.

I will do that later ....unless some other mod does it


Kindly don't troll...civilised people don't talk like that...

If you dont like something keep your opinion to yourself and stop spreading hatred it is reason enough to get you banned
Kindly mind it

Why so lenient, huh?

 

[Beast]

Oh plz. A Pakistani questioning what's going on doesnt make him an idiot, brainwashed by the west. I know it's hard for you to grasp the idea of free thought, knowing the situation of the country you live in.

Fake Pakistanis. What Pakistan do doesn't concern you. You have no right to speak for Pakistan. Go speak for your Canada.

 

[Brainsucker]

So is the article wrong?

I didn't say that the article is right or wrong. I just said that I quote a wrong guy. Pan-Pakistan at that post. So I felt sorry to him

And I was not talking about any article. I talked about the Chinese poster with Han Zi (Chinese word ) Nickname. That his perspective about graveyard was based on his Chinese Culture. Like how Chinese developer don't like to build next to Graveyard. I just want to inform about his post from Chinese perspective, to avoid miss understanding because of Culture difference.

Of course, Chinese tradition doesn't apply to CCP. If they want to build houses at the top of graveyard, they will do that.

 

[Rasengan]

@Dubious bro,


Edit : Ups, sorry @Rasengan, I wanted to quote Itachi, but wrongfully quote you instead.


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No problem.

Have you been to Xinjiang? Have you seen those internment and "reeducation camps"??

I have been to Xinjiang. Most of the bureaucracy and police force is Uighur. I have never been to a camp but I also don't believe a million people have been locked up inside a camp. That would be a logistical nightmare. Besides officials from 10 different countries have visited these camps and they gave the green signal. I'm not denying there's no social tension between the Uighur and Han, but it's not sanctioned by the state.