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ALL Xinjiang related issues e.g. uyghur people, development, videos etc, In here please.

An Independent East Turkestan will be bad for Pakistan

  • Yes

    Votes: 64 53.8%
  • No

    Votes: 55 46.2%

  • Total voters
    119
^^ And what did France exactly do to you?


Even an aftershock of an earthquake can destroy France <----wtf.
 
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Sorry pan. I supposed to quote @Dubious

No worries man.

By the way, I am really sure there is a perfectly logical explanation for this. I don’t believe the propaganda that China is killing/persecuting Muslims.

We just want to hear what that explanation is. I wish we had some PR official or someone with ties to CCP to inform us.
 
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Let me put this in prospective...With the population size of China, it is common to have a handful of "good students"...Many which is good...Doesnt equal to being a good human! or even a good neighbour!

I mean psychos have high IQ and excel in society but when they come to killing...their HIGH IQ also enable them to be equally dangerous!


the thread abt the graveyard in China

Has history taught you? Apart from being selfish, whatelse has it taught you?

@beijingwalker there was 1 Chinese member that even our Chinese TT thought was behaving like shit...But I guess to support blindly is a thing for you, all your members were supporting him when he was going openly racist! If it wasnt for your TT to step in, MOST of you would have been banned! THAT is how dangerous your brainwashing education can be!

global Islam hate everything modern but love politics correct, they can hate you but you can't hate them, that's their logic.
 
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Well, in Indonesia, in my town, our Chinese Graveyard was also got destroyed for the sake of building houses. And we never complain about that. Because we understand, that land is for living people. The need of living people surpass the need of the dead. So, we relocated the graveyard of our grandparents, or just cremate them.

Remember, this is Indonesia. Where the majority of people are Muslim.And we never think that they're bullying us by destroying our graveyard.

So why Graveyard become an issue now?

You can go to your local masjid in Indonesia, and they can give you a better idea of the place of graveyards in Islam.

For example, Jannatul Baqi (graveyard of sahabah and early Muslims) in Madinah is one of our most important historical and religious sites.

global Islam hate everything modern but love politics correct, they can hate you but you can't hate them, that's their logic.

Pakistan and Iran are both Islamic Republics and allies of China.

Give it a rest please.

Unfortunately, vast majority of the Muslim world is being controlled directly or indirectly by the United States.

Also, China needs to do a better job at communicating with the Muslim countries to alleviate people’s fears.

Ignoring the issue will not solve it.
 
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Man, this video alone can put all these China haters into complete shame... Just compare the mentality of the kids in both videos... You can tell who is healthy and who is sick...
Look at what kind of "education" they are receiving in the so called "democratic free society"...
That's crazy!!! Teaching kids to love wars...it's like prewar Nazi Germany.

No worries man.

By the way, I am really sure there is a perfectly logical explanation for this. I don’t believe the propaganda that China is killing/persecuting Muslims.

Yes, anyone with a sane mind won't believe it, if China really lock up and torture 3 million Uighurs, by law of probability, there must be some people died among them, but till now not even one person was confirmed dead , the only one was confirmed dead by Turkish "reliable sources" was proven to be a lie and that guy is alive and kicking, not even one person died from persecution and torture among 3 millions, I guess only China can do this kind of torturing, not even one Uighur officer or soldier turned their guns against the Chinese government while based on western media all their people live in misery and fear, I guess only China can do this kind of persecution, nothing addes up right about those propaganda, anyone with a sane mind won't believe it.
 
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global Islam hate everything modern but love politics correct, they can hate you but you can't hate them, that's their logic.
Not at all correct!

What Muslim people do is not always the same as what ISLAM teaches.

Like what Chinese do and what China stands for are not ALWAYS the same.

For instance:

China does punish its people (if the people do nothing wrong, why China have punishment?)...

Also Chinese people in other countries dont always follow rules of China because they are in other countries....


So what Chinese people do is NOT ALWAYS the same as what China says... depends on circumstances (criminal breaks laws / tourists/ students in other countries - out of China dont follow what China says)...but they are still CHINESE, right?
 
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Actually many if not most ETIM terrorists are trained and operating in Pakistan, but China never says anything against Pakistan government and always reiterates our support to Pakistan and appeals to the global society to recoganize the effort and sacrifice made by Pakistan in fighting terrorism, we don't say anything doesn't mean we don't know anything, as a friend and ally, China chose to trust Pakistan rather than finger pointing and that's what a true friend is supposed to do when ally's is in a difficult time, standing firmly by instead of kicking when down or stabbing in the back.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/worl...at-to-china/story-EDzi4FsOp9rRiY49biSLqK.html
 
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Actually many if not most ETIM terrorists are trained and operating in Pakistan, but China never says anything against Pakistan government and always reiterates our support to Pakistan and appeals to the global society to recoganize the effort and sacrifice made by Pakistan in fighting terrorism, we don't say anything doesn't mean we don't know anything, as a friend and ally, China chose to trust Pakistan rather than finger pointing and that's what a true friend is supposed to do when ally's is in a difficult time, standing firmly by instead of kicking when down or stabbing in the back.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/worl...at-to-china/story-EDzi4FsOp9rRiY49biSLqK.html

You are forgetting one point the ETIM is listed as terror group by Islamabad and also they have targeted our cities and army posts the PNS Mehran incident in 2011 was perparuated by ETIM in Waziristan and in tribal parts of the KPK region these scums were harming civilians and army personnel dont share crap from the tabloid Indian Press @Rasengan
 
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You are forgetting one point the ETIM is listed as terror group by Islamabad and also thru have targeted our cities and army posts the PNS Mehran incident in 2011 was perparuated by ETIM in Waziristan and in tribal parts of the KPK region these scums were harming civilians and army personnel dont share crap from the tabloid Indian Press @Rasengan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkistan_Islamic_Party
Headquarters North Waziristan, Pakistan


They do operate in Pakistan, China never accused Pakistan for this, course we trust Pakistan and always stand by Pakistan when the west accused Pakistan as the hotbed for terrorism.
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkistan_Islamic_Party
Headquarters North Waziristan, Pakistan





They do operate in Pakistan, China never accused Pakistan for this, course we trust Pakistan and always stand by Pakistan when the west accused Pakistan as the hotbed for terrorism.

Yet they no longer operate there since the PAF cleaned up the place besides when China asked for suspected Uyghurs in ETIM they were deported back to the PRC as per PRC request

Before 2014 there was no administration in those parts in fact it was controlled by the TTP which is allied with the ETIM people fled Swat,Mingora ,Wazristan etc
 
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I know Pakistan may have some trouble to tame its rebels and terrorists in the north tribal regions, every year there are several attacks targetting Chinese and some Chinese died from those attacks, both Chinese government and Chinese posters here never blamed Pakistan for failing to protect Chinese citizens cause we know you already tried very hard, much more Pakistanis got killed from terrorists attacks than Chinese. We only hail the heros who tried to protect our people. and we also hope Pakistani government and people don't sensationalize Xinjiang issues and understand we are just trying to maintian Xinjiang's safety and stability, safegurarding the currently fast development and growth of this region.
 
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I know Pakistan may have some trouble to tame its rebels and terrorists in the north tribal regions, every year there are several attacks targetting Chinese and some Chinese died from those attacks, both Chinese government and Chinese posters here never blamed Pakistan for failing to protect Chinese citizens cause we know you already tried very hard, much more Pakistanis got killed from terrorists attacks than Chinese. We only hail the heros who tried to protect our people. and we also hope Pakistani government and people don't sensationalize Xinjiang issues and understand we are just trying to maintian Xinjiang's safety and stability, safegurarding the currently fast development and growth of this region.

Listen PDF is barley anything close to Pakistani public opinion or Pakistani policy circles this is just a diaspora or fourm circle jerk place for tween wannabe politicians from all over the place 99 percent of the incels here bark and dont do shit i am myself tbh bark at times but whats worth when none of us here have any influence on politics of our respective countries
 
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Global Chinese donate for the officers killed protecting Chinese consulate in Pakistan


Listen PDF is barley anything close to Pakistani public opinion or Pakistani policy circles this is just a diaspora or fourm circle jerk place for tween wannabe politicians from all over the plave 99 percent of the incels here bark and dont do shit i am myself tbh bark at times but whats worth when none of us here have any influence on politics of pur respective countries
Pakistan is a friendly country, but recently many Chinese poster are banned on PDF, some Pakistani China bashers used terms like dirty Chinks, Chinese pig... but they never got punished, I don't think Chinese posters would ever attack Pakistan if not terribly provoked, so I suggest the Mod can hand out punishment fairly, I know the Mod is against China over Xinjiang, but as a Mod , they represent the whole PDF community.
 
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Global Chinese donate for the officers killed protecting Chinese consulate in Pakistan



Pakistan is a friendly country, but recently many Chinese poster are banned on PDF, some Pakistani China bashers used terms like dirty Chinks, Chinese pig... but they never got punished, I don't think Chinese posters would ever attack Pakistan if not terribly provoked, so I suggest the Mod can hand out punishment fairly, I know the Mod is against China over Xinjiang, but as a Mod , they represent the whole PDF community.

Well you can ask @Indus Pakistan how he feels about this specfic mod and to fair all the members be it the Turks or Chinese feel they been banned for no reason so dont pin it on just cause you are Chinese
 
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