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Hi,

Here what I think---. I think that the capabilities fo the JF17 strike package have shook up the powers to be---.

No one ever anticipated the SU30's and the M2K's would be taken out just like that---.

You have to understand this---this is the first major air combat of similar capability air forces with 4th gen aircraft and EW capabilities---the much touted french and israeli packages were there or around---.

So---for the west---now is the moment to contain pakistan.

For that very reason---I am a firm believer tat those abilities should not have been shown just like that---.

The first night---the incoming aircraft should have been allowed to come in further and then intercepted SA missiles and aircraft---.

This was a right in your face challenge by the Paf and smacked the enemy hard and their well wishers as well---.

So---now they are all planning how to make the indian air force look good---.

So---yes at e convenient moment---serious stuff will happen---.

Partially agree with your analysis, the Indians will be encouraged to take some form of action - i dont think they will take it to the next level ..as it can quickly escalate to the strategic level (launch of nuclear weapons).

The recent border air/land skirmishes had given the indians a big shock as they had not anticipated this quick and sharp response from Pakistan. The BJP /Modi government main aim is to get re-elected again,they have a lot of serious political issues to resolve , such as job employment , economy etc. Hence the use of border skirmishes to deflect Indian attention from the real issues (such as reducing poverty) etc.
The Western powers have tried for many years to destroy pakistan like it has done with Iraq, Libya, Syria etc. But with Pakistans nuclear and delivery capability this has become too difficult for them to tackle . Look at the case of North Korea, it has an estimated 12-20 nuclear bombs and this has deterred the USA and South Korea to launch any form of real attack on North Korea.

pakistan's has a very large and growing nuclear capability (Full spectrum deterrence). It has a TRIAD system of delivery, the ability to launch nuclear weapons by Air, Land and Sea. It also has a MIRVED capability with its Ababeel missiles, which is able to penetrate any BMD system in place.

More importantly, most of the USA negative approach is via the Indian lobby and the Zionist lobbies - who have India and Israel's interests. Pakistan has the capabilities to put India and Israel back to the stone age....and Indians/Israelis know this. Pakistan should via its intelligence agencies should make it sure that the Indians/ Israelis are aware of Pakistans 'Samson Option', i.e if we go down we are taking you all down with us (stone age or worst). This psychological warfare needs to be enforced via a number of tools at pakistans disposal.

4 X submarines with SLBM / SLCM Nuclear capability is enough to deter the ' big platers' - deterrence!

As soon as Pakistan can demonstrate a long range strike capability to any country across the world, such as the British Royal Navy's capability to strike any target such as Russia with maximum devastation.

Pakistan needs to busy in all area of preparedness... I.e prepare for war to ensure their is peace.

india currently has a number of serious issues that hinder its ability to defeat Pakistan at this current stage:

Its logistics are lacking
It does not have enough ammunition for prolong conflict
Its Army and Airforce do not have the force ratio to overpower pakistan (mainly 2:1)
Only its Navy has a 4:1 ratio against the Pakistani Navy - but it has serious weaknesses (such as PN ability to easily detect their submarine). IN will also face a more lethal PN (with its array of weapons such as the aircraft carrier killer missile etc).

In a nut shell, Pakistan needs to maintain its vigilance and guard until the elections finish - then there will be room for negotiations between both governments. Reader when India was shocked with Pakistans bold counter strike - the Indians had a moment of madness when they had contemplated in the use if ballistic /cruise missile attacks, only yo be reminded by Pakistan that it will hit back 3 times more - the Indians ' blinked' and then their was easment ..its Brinkmanship?
 
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Top 4 mil guys discussing 23rd March parade. Bhai khair to hai?

Under the current circumstances its the biggest event for Pakistan in recent history. Doctor Mahatir, China & Turkey’s fighter jets, foreign troops, the list goes on. To arrange such a massive event with external and internal threats lurking about, its safe to say that the meeting could have been about the big day.
 
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The biggest question is, can PAF push 100+ strike packages per day with 80% serviceability and iteration rate of 10% ?
Whats the target damage rate to IAF? 40% asset destruction rate per sortie ??
 
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The biggest question is, can PAF push 100+ strike packages per day with 80% serviceability and iteration rate of 10% ?
Whats the target damage rate to IAF? 40% asset destruction rate per sortie ??

How many times can IAF launch a 100+ strike package - I guess not more than once.
 
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Under the current circumstances its the biggest event for Pakistan in recent history. Doctor Mahatir, China & Turkey’s fighter jets, foreign troops, the list goes on. To arrange such a massive event with external and internal threats lurking about, its safe to say that the meeting could have been about the big day.
Not you too!
 
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its probably procurement related at two fronts
1. US front, Pakistan should and can press US to release important military equipment or resume CSF
2. china front, would want PM to approve the credit line for acquiring more weapons
3. internal anti state situation that will explode once PPPPs bhutto/demigods jailed
We must throw bone to Trump in shape of more F16 through third party money.LM is desperate and we should take advantage of it to shut them off completely.
 
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Looks like our Pakistani Army and Civil are white foreighners looking in that pics.

Pakistan has a white looking leadership for sure.


The cringe is strong with this one

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Hi,

The first night---the incoming aircraft should have been allowed to come in further and then intercepted SA missiles and aircraft---.

This was a right in your face challenge by the Paf and smacked the enemy hard and their well wishers as well---.

So---now they are all planning how to make the indian air force look good---.

So---yes at e convenient moment---serious stuff will happen---.

Sir! … I beg to differ on this "bold" part.

Even if we had opened the gates for IAF on the night of 26th, they still would have done exactly the same.

Their prime objective was to "make political gains" for Modi, to win the elections.
This was to be done by another "surgical strike" and for this the Pulwama incident provided the pre-text.

There was no way that IAF party would have come in deeper and then be engaged with SAMs or Airborne fighters.
 
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How many times can IAF launch a 100+ strike package - I guess not more than once.


Dont pay a damn to comparison, PAF is an elite force, IAF is no where close to it. IF PAF can do it then thats really good.... delivering 2000kgs per sortie with 100 sorties, delivering 200,000 kgs on one aircraft per strike package... losing 10 aircraft per day and sustaining it for 14 days with 140 aircraft losses... total interation of 50% force in 14 days... and delivering 2,800,000 kgs on munition...

3:1 ratio will lead to 420 Indian aircraft losses.
 
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Hi,

Here is what I think---. I think that the capabilities fo the JF17 strike package have shook up the powers to be---.

No one ever anticipated the SU30's and the M2K's would be taken out just like that---.

You have to understand this---this is the first major air combat of similar capability air forces with 4th gen aircraft and EW capabilities---the much touted french and israeli packages were there or around---.

So---for the west---now is the moment to contain pakistan.

For that very reason---I am a firm believer tat those abilities should not have been shown just like that---.

The first night---the incoming aircraft should have been allowed to come in further and then intercepted SA missiles and aircraft---.

This was a right in your face challenge by the Paf and smacked the enemy hard and their well wishers as well---.

So---now they are all planning how to make the indian air force look good---.

So---yes at e convenient moment---serious stuff will happen---.

You are correct on most accounts, however, I would slightly differ on the view that the PAF abilities should not have been shown. The nature of wars have changed. Previously, the airforce was there to support the Army and the navy and other objectives. But now it is the OTHER way around.

The Air force in the new doctrine is the PIVOTAL power, and other branches of military will work with it. And that is why you have JF-17 project and also Project AZM.

Also, the the fake surgical strikes drama by India HAD DEEP GEOPOLITICAL AND STRATEGICAL reasons. There are big powers behind it. If on that day, PAF would not have responded and there was no message given to india, the situation for Pakistan would have become very nasty and very uncontrolled on ALL BORDERS very quickly. Now, countries like Iran and A-stan and others know their place, and they have gone back in the little boxes where they belong, and Pakistan is left to deal with India, which they have and continue to do.
 
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