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"Welcome to Palestine," said an Alitalia pilot as he landed in Tel Aviv on Tuesday, causing a stir among passengers and the airline's Israeli employees, a spokesman for the company said.


"We have not spoken to the captain," said the company's spokesperson in Israel, Orly Segal. "But if this did happen it will not go over quietly."


The incident happened on an overnight flight from Rome to Tel Aviv and touched a nerve on Memorial Day, when Israel pays homage to the 21,540 people killed in Israel's wars. A beareaved family coming to pay respects on Memorial Day was on board at the time.


Segal said that airline workers in Israel have sent a letter of complaint to the Italian national airline's headquarters in Rome and the Israeli Airports Authority has demanded an explanation. "One thing is certain, this captain will not fly to Israel again," Segal said.


Alitalia CEO sent a letter of apology to Israel's ambassador on Tuesday. The company said that the pilot would no longer fly to Israel. A similar incident took place recently with the pilot of an Air France aircraft.
 
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Palestine is Jewish name as well. Arab name is "Ash-Sham aj-Janubi".
 
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Palestine is Jewish name as well. Arab name is "Ash-Sham aj-Janubi".

False.

Modern archaeology has identified 12 ancient inscriptions from Egyptian and Assyrian records recording similar sounding names. The term "Peleset" (transliterated from hieroglyphs as P-r-s-t) is found in five inscriptions referring to a neighboring people or land starting from c.1150 BCE during the Twentieth dynasty of Egypt. The first known mention is at the temple at Medinet Habu which refers to the Peleset among those who fought with Egypt in Ramesses III's reign,[1][2] and the last known is 300 years later on Padiiset's Statue. Seven known Assyrian inscriptions refer to the region of "Palashtu" or "Pilistu", beginning with Adad-nirari III in the Nimrud Slab in c.800 BCE through to a treaty made by Esarhaddon more than a century later.[3][4] Neither the Egyptian nor the Assyrian sources provided clear regional boundaries for the term.

The first clear use of the term Palestine to refer to the entire area between Phoenicia and Egypt was in 5th century BC Ancient Greece,[7][8] when Herodotus wrote of a 'district of Syria, called Palaistinê" in The Histories, which included the Judean mountains and the Jordan Rift Valley.[9][ii] Approximately a century later, Aristotle used a similar definition for the region in Meteorology, in which he included the Dead Sea.[11] Later Greek writers such as Polemon and Pausanias also used the term to refer to the same region, which was followed by Roman writers such as Ovid, Tibullus, Pomponius Mela, Pliny the Elder, Dio Chrysostom, Statius, Plutarch as well as Roman Judean writers Philo of Alexandria and Josephus.[12] The term was first used to denote an official province in c.135 CE, when the Roman authorities, following the suppression of the Bar Kokhba Revolt, combined Iudaea Province with Galilee and the Paralia to form "Syria Palaestina". There is circumstantial evidence linking Hadrian with the name change,[13] but the precise date is not certain[13] and the assertion of some scholars that the name change was intended "to complete the dissociation with Judaea"[14] is disputed.[15]

Timeline of the name "Palestine" - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Palestine in Arabic is Filastin (فلسطين).

Sham is Levant and since Palestine/modern-day Israel/Jordan etc. all lie in Southern Levant that can be used too. Many names have been used/can be used.

In any case Israel/Palestine are not even the oldest names given for those regions. Not even close.
 
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False.

Modern archaeology has identified 12 ancient inscriptions from Egyptian and Assyrian records recording similar sounding names. The term "Peleset" (transliterated from hieroglyphs as P-r-s-t) is found in five inscriptions referring to a neighboring people or land starting from c.1150 BCE during the Twentieth dynasty of Egypt. The first known mention is at the temple at Medinet Habu which refers to the Peleset among those who fought with Egypt in Ramesses III's reign,[1][2] and the last known is 300 years later on Padiiset's Statue. Seven known Assyrian inscriptions refer to the region of "Palashtu" or "Pilistu", beginning with Adad-nirari III in the Nimrud Slab in c.800 BCE through to a treaty made by Esarhaddon more than a century later.[3][4] Neither the Egyptian nor the Assyrian sources provided clear regional boundaries for the term.

The first clear use of the term Palestine to refer to the entire area between Phoenicia and Egypt was in 5th century BC Ancient Greece,[7][8] when Herodotus wrote of a 'district of Syria, called Palaistinê" in The Histories, which included the Judean mountains and the Jordan Rift Valley.[9][ii] Approximately a century later, Aristotle used a similar definition for the region in Meteorology, in which he included the Dead Sea.[11] Later Greek writers such as Polemon and Pausanias also used the term to refer to the same region, which was followed by Roman writers such as Ovid, Tibullus, Pomponius Mela, Pliny the Elder, Dio Chrysostom, Statius, Plutarch as well as Roman Judean writers Philo of Alexandria and Josephus.[12] The term was first used to denote an official province in c.135 CE, when the Roman authorities, following the suppression of the Bar Kokhba Revolt, combined Iudaea Province with Galilee and the Paralia to form "Syria Palaestina". There is circumstantial evidence linking Hadrian with the name change,[13] but the precise date is not certain[13] and the assertion of some scholars that the name change was intended "to complete the dissociation with Judaea"[14] is disputed.[15]

Timeline of the name "Palestine" - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Palestine in Arabic is Filastin (فلسطين).

Sham is Levant and since Palestine/modern-day Israel/Jordan etc. all lie in Southern Levant that can be used too. Many names have been used/can be used.

In any case Israel/Palestine are not even the oldest names given for those regions. Not even close.
Peleshet - root P L SH means "invader" in Hebrew/Canaanite. That's how invading Aegian robers were called by local Semitic people. It does not have any meaning in any other language.
 
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Peleshet - root P L SH means "invader" in Hebrew/Canaanite. That's how invading Aegian robers were called by local Semitic people. It does not have any meaning in any other language.

What is now Palestinians are fully Semitic people and so are Arabs and everyone in the immediate neighborhood. Ancient Israelites were not the only Semites inhabiting that region of the world nor the first people to to do so or even the first Semites.

If you see my link you will notice that the name was already used by Egyptians and Assyrians. Before Jews were known in history.

Names are irrelevant as neither "Palestine" nor "Israel" were the original names for those regions of the world.

Neither Palestinians nor Israelis are going to disappear either.

Rather than discussing history a solution to the conflict should be found so Israelis and Palestinians can live largely in peace.
 
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Peleshet - root P L SH means "invader" in Hebrew/Canaanite. That's how invading Aegian robers were called by local Semitic people. It does not have any meaning in any other language.
Yes ashkenazi jews of european heritage and acnestry were the original people of the land, the whitewash of Palestinian history by these invaders is laughable.
 
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What is now Palestinians are fully Semitic people and so are Arabs and everyone in the immediate neighborhood. Ancient Israelites were not the only Semites inhabiting that region of the world nor the first people to to do so or even the first Semites.

If you see my link you will notice that the name was already used by Egyptians and Assyrians. Before Jews were known in history.

Names are irrelevant as neither "Palestine" nor "Israel" were the original names for those regions of the world.

Neither Palestinians nor Israelis are going to disappear either.

Rather than discussing history a solution to the conflict should be found so Israelis and Palestinians can live largely in peace.
What is this peaceful rhetoric??! You traitor! You should constantly wish for Jews to become orphans and for Palestinians to sacrifice their kids if it means prolonging the conflict.

That's the rhetoric of too many people who are directly concerned with this so I wouldn't have too much hope on this subject if I were you. Btw not to say the Israelis are peace champions or something, Netanyahu alone has done an immense amount of irreversible damage, and without mentioning all of his minions' dirty work.


Also, you sure know your history, man! Great info.
 
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What is now Palestinians are fully Semitic people and so are Arabs and everyone in the immediate neighborhood. Ancient Israelites were not the only Semites inhabiting that region of the world nor the first people to to do so or even the first Semites.
Name "Palestinian" was invented in 1964 and became widely used in 1970-es. Before that they never called themselves Palestinians. During British Mandate Palestinian leader was running newspaper "as-Suriya aj-Janubiya" , because they considered "Palestine" as foreign colonial invention.

If you see my link you will notice that the name was already used by Egyptians and Assyrians. Before Jews were known in history.
Nope. First Egyptian mention of Peleshet is from 1150 BC, while first Egyptian mention of Israel is from 1206 BC. Assyrians are hundreds years later.

Canaanite aka Hebrew language is even much older than this.
 
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Name "Palestinian" was invented in 1964 and became widely used in 1970-es. Before that they never called themselves Palestinians. During British Mandate Palestinian leader was running newspaper "as-Suriya aj-Janubiya" , because they considered "Palestine" as foreign colonial invention.


Nope. First Egyptian mention of Peleshet is from 1150 BC, while first Egyptian mention of Israel is from 1206 BC. Assyrians are hundreds years later.

Canaanite aka Hebrew language is even much older than this.

I just showed you a link which is full of numerous independent references that disproves such a claim.

Palestinians are largely native to the area of Palestine/Levant/immediate areas of the Arab world, are Semites too and consider what is now Palestine as their homeland.

What is now modern-day Israel is an invention too. All nation states are inventions.

Also it is pretty much certain that ancient Hebrews/Israelites looked very much alike to how modern-day Arab Jews look like and Arabs of the region.

So I don't think, with all due respect, that an average Polish, Hungarian, Romanian, Russian, German, Ukrainian etc. Jew has a bigger "claim" on Palestine/Israel based on ancestry than the average Palestinian.

There is no question that both Jews and Arabs have ties to what is now Israel/Palestine.

Maybe we should tag @Falcon29 here to get another side of the story.
 
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The land is Palestine and will in due course revert to its rightful owners.
 
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Name "Palestinian" was invented in 1964 and became widely used in 1970-es. Before that they never called themselves Palestinians. During British Mandate Palestinian leader was running newspaper "as-Suriya aj-Janubiya" , because they considered "Palestine" as foreign colonial invention.


Nope. First Egyptian mention of Peleshet is from 1150 BC, while first Egyptian mention of Israel is from 1206 BC. Assyrians are hundreds years later.

Canaanite aka Hebrew language is even much older than this.


Dude let's not dig into history because Palestine are the front runners of the Canaanites who are the native of the land while jews and isrealites originated in Iraq Not the levant.
 
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