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They won't strike Pakistan. Am worried about India and West especially Americans. All power to Pakistan forces to tackle
Al-Qaeda Regroups in Pakistan, Planning ‘Something Big’
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What we are seeing here is a disconnect of the govt and the people, of the true religion and the ulema. Under Zia's time, Pakistan allowed this radicalisation with the blessings of uncle sam and KSA. We were getting dollars and F-16 but we were also getting indoctrination of an extreme ideology that was deemed fit for the circumstances. Zia was the biggest clown and hypocrite who used Islam to not only prolong his tyrannical rule but also proliferate his own extremist mindset. Adhocism is one of main culprit here. There are no permanent policies by the govt, we react to incident and events and fail to address the core issue. It is good work that ISI active in identifying and arresting them but that's not a permanent solution. We need a total committment from the govt but right now we have the worst zombies in the govt.
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https://www.rt.com/news/345636-us-siding-al-qaeda-ford/
US effectively siding with Al-Qaeda in desire to get rid of Assad – former UK ambassador to Syria
The US is “ready to de facto ally” with its archenemies from Al-Qaeda’s branch in Syria as part of its “obsession” by using “so-called moderate” moderate groups to overthrow the Syrian government, former UK ambassador to Syria, Peter Ford, told RT in an exclusive interview.
The US “is effectively siding with a branch of Al-Qaeda” in Syria, Peter Ford told RT, speaking of Washington’s recent request to Moscow not to target Al-Nusra positions with air strikes for the sake of moderate opposition groups located in the same area.
The former ambassador denounced the move as “not reasonable at all” and “grotesque.” He also sharply criticized the US for their“obsession with getting rid of Assad and the secular government in Syria” that leads them right to the alliance with “their arch-enemies”and to the loss of “all moral and practical competence.”
“We can only hope that it is a temporary aberration and they will soon return to their senses,” Ford told RT, urging the US government to abandon their policy of de facto aiding Al-Qaeda’s affiliate. He also expressed his support for Russia’s “very reasonable demand that the forces of the so-called moderate opposition disentangle themselves from the embraces of Al-Nusra and allow Al-Nusra to be bombed.”
The former ambassador also stressed that there is “virtually no difference” between Al-Nusra and such groups as Jaish al-Islam, Ahrar al-Sham and Jaish al-Fatah as they are “indistinguishable” in terms of ideology, sectarian bias and their practical methods consisting of “massacres and ruthlessness.”
He also emphasized that the only difference between Al-Nusra and other groups that western countries, including the US, portray as “moderate opposition” lies in the field of tactics.
“The so-called moderate groups pay lip service to the idea that Syria might end up with a secular system after negotiations provided only that Assad will go. They pay lip service to this but anyone, who believes it must be a fool but the Americans use this as a reason or the pretext not to go after these groups,” Ford said.
The former ambassador denounced the US’ “obsession with getting rid of Assad, which they euphemistically call ‘transition’ in the context of the negotiations” as an attempt to carry out another regime change as they previously did in Iraq and Libya.
“They are keen, it seems, to repeat the same mistakes in Damascus,”Ford said, commenting on the US continuous efforts to oust the Syrian President Bashar Assad from power.
At the same time, he warned that “it is really dangerous to mainstream these jihadi groups with a handful of genuinely democratic secular oppositionists, who are the tiny minority of the opposition on the ground,” referring to such groups as Jaish al-Islam and Ahrar al-Sham, which the US, France, the UK, and Ukraine refused to designate as terrorist organizations and add them to a UN Security Council (UNSC) blacklist.
On June 5, the Syrian Foreign Ministry sent a letter to the UN, in which it alleged that some of the so-called “moderate”opposition groups had been shelling residential areas in Aleppo, Syria, alongside Al-Nusra Front. The ministry also accused some regional powers, including Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar, of “sponsoring terrorists” and attempting to derail the peace negotiations in Geneva.
The letter designated such groups as Jaish al-Islam, Ahrar al-Sham, and Jaish al-Fatah as Al Nusra’s “affiliates” and criticized some members of the UNSC for their refusal to add them to the UN list of terrorist groups.
US effectively siding with Al-Qaeda in desire to get rid of Assad – former UK ambassador to Syria
The US is “ready to de facto ally” with its archenemies from Al-Qaeda’s branch in Syria as part of its “obsession” by using “so-called moderate” moderate groups to overthrow the Syrian government, former UK ambassador to Syria, Peter Ford, told RT in an exclusive interview.
The US “is effectively siding with a branch of Al-Qaeda” in Syria, Peter Ford told RT, speaking of Washington’s recent request to Moscow not to target Al-Nusra positions with air strikes for the sake of moderate opposition groups located in the same area.
The former ambassador denounced the move as “not reasonable at all” and “grotesque.” He also sharply criticized the US for their“obsession with getting rid of Assad and the secular government in Syria” that leads them right to the alliance with “their arch-enemies”and to the loss of “all moral and practical competence.”
“We can only hope that it is a temporary aberration and they will soon return to their senses,” Ford told RT, urging the US government to abandon their policy of de facto aiding Al-Qaeda’s affiliate. He also expressed his support for Russia’s “very reasonable demand that the forces of the so-called moderate opposition disentangle themselves from the embraces of Al-Nusra and allow Al-Nusra to be bombed.”
The former ambassador also stressed that there is “virtually no difference” between Al-Nusra and such groups as Jaish al-Islam, Ahrar al-Sham and Jaish al-Fatah as they are “indistinguishable” in terms of ideology, sectarian bias and their practical methods consisting of “massacres and ruthlessness.”
He also emphasized that the only difference between Al-Nusra and other groups that western countries, including the US, portray as “moderate opposition” lies in the field of tactics.
“The so-called moderate groups pay lip service to the idea that Syria might end up with a secular system after negotiations provided only that Assad will go. They pay lip service to this but anyone, who believes it must be a fool but the Americans use this as a reason or the pretext not to go after these groups,” Ford said.
The former ambassador denounced the US’ “obsession with getting rid of Assad, which they euphemistically call ‘transition’ in the context of the negotiations” as an attempt to carry out another regime change as they previously did in Iraq and Libya.
“They are keen, it seems, to repeat the same mistakes in Damascus,”Ford said, commenting on the US continuous efforts to oust the Syrian President Bashar Assad from power.
At the same time, he warned that “it is really dangerous to mainstream these jihadi groups with a handful of genuinely democratic secular oppositionists, who are the tiny minority of the opposition on the ground,” referring to such groups as Jaish al-Islam and Ahrar al-Sham, which the US, France, the UK, and Ukraine refused to designate as terrorist organizations and add them to a UN Security Council (UNSC) blacklist.
On June 5, the Syrian Foreign Ministry sent a letter to the UN, in which it alleged that some of the so-called “moderate”opposition groups had been shelling residential areas in Aleppo, Syria, alongside Al-Nusra Front. The ministry also accused some regional powers, including Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar, of “sponsoring terrorists” and attempting to derail the peace negotiations in Geneva.
The letter designated such groups as Jaish al-Islam, Ahrar al-Sham, and Jaish al-Fatah as Al Nusra’s “affiliates” and criticized some members of the UNSC for their refusal to add them to the UN list of terrorist groups.
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911 was a false flag designed in such a way that would justify the continuation of the US war machine, Pakistan on the other hand was able to escape and continues to be a thorn on the western plans and intentions, the fact that OBL was supposedly found and killed in Pakistan (no evidence was provided) and the others like Mansour gives a picture to the western masses that Pakistan is a terrorist sponsoring state that needs to be checked, if Al-Qaeda is able to establish a strong foothold in Pakistan and another false flag the magnitude of 911 happens again, who do you think they would blame and what would happen next?
The liberals here are blinded by the hatred of Islam as one stated to wipe out Islam from Pakistan, they are too biased to even research the event of 911, their hatred compels them to believe the official story willingly, without research, analysis and critical thought.
The liberals here are blinded by the hatred of Islam as one stated to wipe out Islam from Pakistan, they are too biased to even research the event of 911, their hatred compels them to believe the official story willingly, without research, analysis and critical thought.
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Let's be honest here, unless the attack is against Pakistan or our allies (except for the US), we won't stop them.
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Just like Pakistani politicians can't tax themselves for obvious reason. Most of Pakistanis, so-called ulama are 2nd grade failed, never went to school or holders of Fake degrees, so-called ulama are not going to bite the hand that feeds them.
Ulama (/ˈuːləˌmɑː/; Arabic: علماء ʿUlamāʾ, singular عالِم ʿĀlim, "scholar", literally "the learned ones", also spelled ulema; feminine: alimah (singular) and uluma (plural)), is defined as the "those recognized as scholars or authorities" in the "religious hierarchy" of the Islamic religious sciences
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If i may comment ,
Really good idea to clear short term problem ( or very long term in your case ) but what if new calip and siphe salar decide to inforce middle age ideas in modern world ??? Wouldn,t that cause more problems are they will have a nation and its army at their disposal.
I remember a quote form ww2 era. Worth a though
:" As soon as the man decides all means are ok to destroy the evil; their good becomes indistingwisheble from the evil they set out to destroy !!! "
Sorry for spelling mistake my auto refuse to write correct
As far as my nations intrest, plz regroup and strike somewhere in west or in US and i will be a happy man
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