Al-Khalid tank (Type 90-IIM / MBT-2000) Information Pool

[Inception-06]

I notice some European staff on the picture.

 

[iLION12345_1]

I notice some European staff on the picture.

Those are probably Greeks. The coating seen on these AKs is from a Greek company called INTERMAT. These pictures can also be found on their website. HIT is collaborating with them for this.

 

[Dil_Pakistan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1223009560350396422

https://twitter.com/x/status/1223009575709921280

https://twitter.com/x/status/1223009578381651970

 

[BHarwana]

 

[Tipu7]

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Looks like AK production is going on smoothly.

 

[Signalian]

Looks like AK production is going on smoothly.

This is a very positive outcome from HIT. A lot of T-59s need to be replaced.

 

[Tipu7]

This is a very positive outcome from HIT. A lot of T-59s need to be replaced.

Replaced or converted into AZ?

On side note, I believe that production of AK, upgradation of UDs, overhauling of T85 and convertion of T59 into AZ is at the cost of Al Haider project.

 

[HRK]

Replaced or converted into AZ?

On side note, I believe that production of AK, upgradation of UDs, overhauling of T85 and convertion of T59 into AZ is at the cost of Al Haider project.

I was thinking the same ....

 

[Reichmarshal]

Replaced or converted into AZ?

On side note, I believe that production of AK, upgradation of UDs, overhauling of T85 and convertion of T59 into AZ is at the cost of Al Haider project.

VT4 is it all harder, will be seen in PA colours very soon

 

[Signalian]

Replaced or converted into AZ?

On side note, I believe that production of AK, upgradation of UDs, overhauling of T85 and convertion of T59 into AZ is at the cost of Al Haider project.

That is for the Military to decide. I think replacement of T-59 could be considered since AZ is itself a major upgrade.

T-59 was first upgraded to T-59 II and then upgraded to AZ standard, where as upgrading AZ further more is not easy as the tech keeps getting modern. AZ has a short coming of a smaller engine with lesser HP than other MBTs. I also think that 6th Armd Div is a bit disadvantaged. Not saying that AZ cannot hold out on its own against T-72 or T-90, yes it can, and it can cover the distance too which is a major requirement for any armored formation. Its got a superb gun and suitable protection, its lighter than other modern MBTs and smaller in size. PA found a good use of it to place it in plains of Punjab while the bigger MBTs are deployed in semi-desert and desert regions. A modern MBT with 1000+ HP and room to upgrade further is still a better choice. AZ upgrade is still a bit of a compromise and a stop gap - if AZ upgrade is such a potent armored component for PA then maybe more cheap T-59 at throw away priced should be acquired from storage in China and upgraded to AZ to increase number of regiments. You know, make a Mirage out of T-59, lol, get all the T-59 of the world and assemble them to AZ standard. Jokes apart, AK and AK-I should be invested in for up-gradation, introduce more variants and AK-II should have been the first option to replace T-59. The news of Al-Haider, testing of VT-4/Oplot hinted towards replacement of T-59.

T-59 II are still suitable to be used by FC on western front.

 

[Tipu7]

AZ is credible upgrade, but still it's an upgrade of 1st generation T59.
The biggest advantage it got is its fire power for its size and decent mobility within plains of Punjab. I believe AZ, if used properly, can fight head on against T90 in Punjab but it will not be able to dominate it just like T80/AK can do in deserts if properly employed. (AZ armor is poor in comparison).
This reduces the scope of AZ utility. Hence, no need to increase their number by buying surplus T59/T69 and converting them into AZ, instead just upgrade those which are already present. Convert them and you will have total 1000+ AZs (24 regiments) sufficient to cover up all divisions deployed in Northern Punjab regions.

In meantime, continue producing AK and try to reach the requisite production targets within given time frame. Incorporate as much improvements in AK2 as much possible. And by 2025 PA will be operating 620 AK, 320 T80UD, 1000+ AZ, 280 T85 = ~2250 MBTs, sufficient to maintain fleet of 50 regiments.

Instead of increasing the size of tank fleet by procuring more second hand or half modernized Tanks, it's better to increase the overall antitank capacity of armed forces. We cannot go for attrition route as we cannot match India in numbers. We need to develop flexibility by utilizing as diverse anti tank options as possible. (that includes procurements of tracked & wheeled IFV equipped with ATGMs, anti armor UCAVs, more gunships, better anti tank vehicles, better ATGM in infantry).

 

[Cornered Tiger]

This reduces the scope of AZ utility. Hence, no need to increase their number by buying surplus T59/T69 and converting them into AZ, instead just upgrade those which are already present. Convert them and you will have total 1000+ AZs (24 regiments) sufficient to cover up all divisions deployed in Northern Punjab regions.

In that part, I think you missed the point @Signalian is making.

He asserted that the remaining T-59s will go to FC on western front.
AK-2 or AH will come in as replacement for these T-59s.

 

[Tipu7]

In that part, I think you missed the point @Signalian is making.

He asserted that the remaining T-59s will go to FC on western front.
AK-2 or AH will come in as replacement for these T-59s.

FC got T69. In case of need more T69 can be moved to FC.
And why acquire more T59 for sake of AZ conversion when we got plenty of T59 in our arsenal? Convert them into AZ.

 

[mingle]

Looks like AK production is going on smoothly.

How many units per year? and what is requirement by Army mean how many copies Army wants of AK series ???

 

[Signalian]

AZ is credible upgrade, but still it's an upgrade of 1st generation T59.
The biggest advantage it got is its fire power for its size and decent mobility within plains of Punjab. I believe AZ, if used properly, can fight head on against T90 in Punjab but it will not be able to dominate it just like T80/AK can do in deserts if properly employed. (AZ armor is poor in comparison).
This reduces the scope of AZ utility. Hence, no need to increase their number by buying surplus T59/T69 and converting them into AZ, instead just upgrade those which are already present. Convert them and you will have total 1000+ AZs (24 regiments) sufficient to cover up all divisions deployed in Northern Punjab regions.

In meantime, continue producing AK and try to reach the requisite production targets within given time frame. Incorporate as much improvements in AK2 as much possible. And by 2025 PA will be operating 620 AK, 320 T80UD, 1000+ AZ, 280 T85 = ~2250 MBTs, sufficient to maintain fleet of 50 regiments.

Instead of increasing the size of tank fleet by procuring more second hand or half modernized Tanks, it's better to increase the overall antitank capacity of armed forces. We cannot go for attrition route as we cannot match India in numbers. We need to develop flexibility by utilizing as diverse anti tank options as possible. (that includes procurements of tracked & wheeled IFV equipped with ATGMs, anti armor UCAVs, more gunships, better anti tank vehicles, better ATGM in infantry).

You didn't get my point. Anyways, looking forward to AK-II induction, whenever that happens