Al Jazeera: Kashmir Meeting ends without consensus!

[Lincoln]

I don't twist or cry like you I am reiterating confirmed by Indian journalist Aditya Nath Kaul's Tweet. They always leak some part of information after few hours once they are done with their upmanship and propaganda for bharat maata.

Yeah, and Russian fm saying to our fm that it's a bilateral issue is made up.

 

[NA71]

https://www.dw.com/en/kashmir-is-the-un-security-council-reluctant-to-get-involved/a-50061172

NEUTRAL ANALYSIS......

 

[Panther 57]

I don't know what the solution is. But making a fool out of your people is no way for a Government to act.

And the reason I say that Pakistan won't go on the offensive is not because it's not a solution but because we simply don't have the reserves to start a war and then it sustain it as well.

History is witness that rulers have been making fool of people. In the name of religion, culture, race, language etc etc. But we should not forget that governments have to keep things up their sleeve also. If you start discussing strategies and tactics openly element of surprise goes for a six. Enemy prepares itself for it. Even when we discuss different options on forums that also gives our hints and those area which may not be in periphery comes in limelight.

What you say about limitations is not incorrect, but at times countries fight and fight to death if it becomes inevitable.

 

[newb3e]

War is how the issue started in the first place

and war is how this issue will finally end!!

by exerting force you bring idiots to the table and talk peace and solution and not the other way round!

 

[Norwegian]

See. This is issue with PDF members. It's never the author which defines reliability, but the content of the text. That's called biasness.

Everyone's been using their videos, quoting their articles on Kashmir, they were first to put out video of protests!

Here are the facts after UNSC from various sources all confirming each other:

• China sided with Pakistan
• Russia sided with India
• US chose no sides
• The rest gave no opinion on the matter

Outcome:

• Kashmir issue is no longer bileteral as UNSC discussed it in the first place
• India has no choice but to negotiate with Pakistan on Kashmir
• China has become active third party in the conflict

 

[Lahorie]

not true....

The matter will be in UNSC again within 30 days....note it

Feels more like the Pakistani courts where you only get dates after dates BUT NOT justice.

 

[ZAC1]

we build the narrative in UN... just waiting the people to take the stones again... just wait few days r weeks...Indian army will make big mistakes...as they are already doing... locals will take arms soons... international media will not been banned forever... so we got then
our narrative to the world
locals taking up arms
Issue highlighted in international media
then any war is easy to wage n win...

 

[Lincoln]

Here are the facts after UNSC from various sources all confirming each other:

• China sided with Pakistan
• Russia sided with India
• US chose no sides
• The rest gave no opinion on the matter

Outcome:

• Kashmir issue is no longer bileteral as UNSC discussed it in the first place
• India has no choice but to negotiate with Pakistan on Kashmir
• China has become active third party in the conflict

BS. There in video UN Russian envoy says it is better to not touch on the issue, and you're peddling this sourceless BS.

 

[Norwegian]

by exerting force you bring idiots to the table and talk peace and solution and not the other way round!

Please remind us what became of Tashkent declaration after 1965 war or Shimla Agreement after 1971 war or Agra Summit after Kargil war in 1999.
We pushed India to negotiate and yet didn't get an inch of Kashmir lol

Yeah, and Russian fm saying to our fm that it's a bilateral issue is made up.

Of course it was bilateral issue according to Shimla Agreement signed between India and Pakistan. But since China is now actively involved in the conflict, it is no longer bilateral.

 

[Psychic]

Russian envoy can be seen here saying that it was 'better to not touch on the issue.'

So, what part of this meeting was a success, or is the Government fooling its people again?

It was a formality.
The govt itself didn't expect much but this had to be done regardless.

Even if we had a first class foreign office, the result of this session would have been the same. The people running those countries are not choosni sucking toddlers, they are well aware of what India is doing in IOK. They choose to stay quiet because of their national interests. The world doesn't care if Kashmiris get slaughtered. Realpoltik is ruthless.

India is influential, we are not.

Those who have trampled the UN resolutions under military boots are let go, while the ones fighting to implement UN resolutions are called terrorists. That is how the world is today.

After Pulwama, India was encouraged by US, France, Germany etc to take action against "terror"(resistance attacking occupying force). When India breached our airspace and dropped bombs, no one condemned India but instead took sides with it. When we retaliated the next day, these so called civilized countries received a kick in their butts.

And we have arastoos who are too concerned about Pakistan's image as a "responsible" state. As if anyone out there gives dogshit about our image. We should have played the Afghan card but we didn't, or perhaps were too concerned about our image as a peacemaker.

Now, we have the responsibility as Pakistanis to provide material support to freedom fighters fighting for Pakistan inside occupied Kashmir against our enemy.

 

[Norwegian]

BS. There in video UN Russian envoy says it is better to not touch on the issue, and you're peddling this sourceless BS.

Who the heck is Russian FM? Is he God or something? Why you are giving him that much importance? We already know Russia and India always back each other. What's new?

Now, we have the responsibility as Pakistanis to provide material support to freedom fighters fighting for Pakistan inside occupied Kashmir against our enemy.

So India may also do the same in Balochistan? What a great strategy!

 

[newb3e]

Please remind us what became of Tashkent declaration after 1965 war or Shimla Agreement after 1971 war or Agra Summit after Kargil war in 1999.
We pushed India to negotiate and yet didn't get an inch of Kashmir lol

all these war had no conclusive winner in this war which ever side can occupy other area can claim victory andbforce other party to bow down and negotiate be it india or Pakistan!

 

[Norwegian]

all these war had no conclusive winner in this war which ever side can occupy other area can claim victory andbforce other party to bow down and negotiate be it india or Pakistan!

So you want a conclusive war then. What if Pakistan lose that one and in the process force to give up Azad Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan to India?

 

[Rollno21]

Who the heck is Russian FM? Is he God or something? Why you are giving him that much importance? We already know Russia and India always back each other. What's new?


So India may also do the same in Balochistan? What a great strategy!

I feel people should move on,no one is going to massacre kashmiries ,trust me if something like that happens people like me will be the first to protest and come to the streets.
Politics of both sides has have kept kashmiries poor,now they too need development ,jobs good roads and better life

 

[NA71]

hahahaha....well said......Bro its because Pakistan has taken it to UN....if it was Indian Move ...the meeting declaration would of 10 pages long ...strict words.... condemnations....

Feels more like the Pakistani courts where you only get dates after dates BUT NOT justice.