Akinci & Aksungur and Turkish Unmanned Fighter Aircraft Program

[Deliorman]

Turkey and Ukraine have so much potential if they work together...
It’s nice that ties between the countries are deepening.

 

[Bismarck]

Turkish defense industry working on armed drone launch system for vessels
The Turkish defense sector is working on a new system that will enable launching domestically developed UAVs from vessels; the technology will contribute to the effectiveness of the Turkish Armed Forces and provide very important capabilities
DAILY SABAH WITH AA
ISTANBUL
Published 20 hours ago

Turkey's domestically produced UAV Bayraktar TB2 was developed by leading unmanned aerial platform developer Baykar Makina.
The Turkish defense industry is developing an electromagnetic launch system for unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) that would allow ships to launch drones without a runway, increasing naval platform deterrence. The Turkish navy operates a series of local aerial platforms, including ANKA and the Bayraktar Tactical Block 2 (TB2). But the aircraft can only take off using conventional runways. The U.S. and China already use electromagnetic launch systems aboard some of their aircraft carriers. The system is simple to use, cost-effective and boasts high-power launch capacities. The Turkish defense industry has been working on electromagnetic rail guns, which are based on the same principle, for some time now.

The project has enabled the development of electromagnetic launch systems because of common features, including power supply, high current/voltage switching and control systems.

Potentially, electromagnetic launch systems can make a huge contribution to the effectiveness of the Turkish Navy and its ability to operate drones. For instance, the Bayraktar TB2 will be effective at a range of 100-150 kilometers when launched from a navy vessel. This will significantly boost the navy's security and deterrence capabilities in the Aegean and the Mediterranean Seas.

Thus, a new UAV development process will not take years, and Turkey will acquire a system that can be integrated into existing national platforms.

Yeteknoloji AŞ, who introduced Turkey's first electromagnetic rail guns, also manufactures components for the electromagnetic launch system.

In response to the need that may emerge with the navy's use of UAVs, the company decided to develop an electromagnetic catapult. Yeteknoloji AŞ has launched a conceptual design project in this regard and aims to launch a 750-kilogram UAV with an electromagnetic launch system within the next two to three years.

Yeteknoloji AŞ General Manager Fazıl Hızal told Anadolu Agency (AA) that the electromagnetic launch systems have rapidly been adapted for different applications, including weapons, like railguns, and launch systems, said Hızal, adding that such technologies should receive more attention due to the country's needs.

Noting that the U.S. and China are working with electromagnetic technology, Hızal said the U.S. is already using this technology. It can launch aircraft and UAVs using an electromagnetic launch system.

"China is also expected to start using this technology soon. We, as a country, must also join this technology race. We have technologies that can be part of this race. We can make the best UAVs in the world and produce all the components of the electromagnetic launch system in Turkey," he said. "So, we can develop our own system and launch UAVs from vessels. This technology will provide our armed forces with very important capabilities."

Bayraktar TB2 armed drones, produced by Baykar and operational since 2015, have been used to support Turkey's fight against terror on its southern border and during cross-border operations in Syria.

The domestically developed drone is the first and only armed UAV in the Turkish Armed Forces' (TSK) inventory.

With its advanced electronics, software, aerodynamic, design, submarine systems and flight automation and performance, the Bayraktar TB2 is one of the most advanced UAV systems in its class.

Performing active reconnaissance, surveillance and intelligence flights, the Bayraktar TB2 has the ability to transmit images to operation centers without delay and engage targets.

It boasts a service ceiling of 8,239 meters (27,030 feet) and a flight endurance of 24 hours. It can carry 150 kilograms (330 pounds) of payload and can be operated day and night.

On the other hand, ANKA, an advanced Medium Altitude Long Endurance (MALE) class UAV, performs day and night, all-weather reconnaissance, target detection/identification and intelligence missions, featuring autonomous flight capabilities, including automatic takeoff and landing.

 

[Mert_Ank]

Turkey and Ukraine have so much potential if they work together...
It’s nice that ties between the countries are deepening.

Ukrainians technical abilities plummeted down over the decades due to war, economic crisis etc. They cant deliver what they promised very often

 

[KediKesenFare3]

Ukrainians technical abilities plummeted down over the decades due to war, economic crisis etc. They cant deliver what they promised very often

Right, but aren't we more interested in their Soviet tech anyways?

 

[HannibalBarca]

Right, but aren't we more interested in their Soviet tech anyways?

Yes and No.
Ukrainian Def industry and Engineers are actually quite advanced/Skilled... But with lack of Export Opportunities and Funds their current Dev is limited.
Under Soviet Era...they were among the spear head region of Soviet Military Inventions/Power... They've got a lot of "untapped" brains out there...

 

[Mert_Ank]

its a long story but the short answer; in certain cases yes but there were some disappointments in the past.

 

[UkroTurk]

Turkish defense industry working on armed drone launch system for vessels
The Turkish defense sector is working on a new system that will enable launching domestically developed UAVs from vessels; the technology will contribute to the effectiveness of the Turkish Armed Forces and provide very important capabilities
DAILY SABAH WITH AA
ISTANBUL
Published 20 hours ago

Turkey's domestically produced UAV Bayraktar TB2 was developed by leading unmanned aerial platform developer Baykar Makina.
The Turkish defense industry is developing an electromagnetic launch system for unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) that would allow ships to launch drones without a runway, increasing naval platform deterrence. The Turkish navy operates a series of local aerial platforms, including ANKA and the Bayraktar Tactical Block 2 (TB2). But the aircraft can only take off using conventional runways. The U.S. and China already use electromagnetic launch systems aboard some of their aircraft carriers. The system is simple to use, cost-effective and boasts high-power launch capacities. The Turkish defense industry has been working on electromagnetic rail guns, which are based on the same principle, for some time now.

The project has enabled the development of electromagnetic launch systems because of common features, including power supply, high current/voltage switching and control systems.

Potentially, electromagnetic launch systems can make a huge contribution to the effectiveness of the Turkish Navy and its ability to operate drones. For instance, the Bayraktar TB2 will be effective at a range of 100-150 kilometers when launched from a navy vessel. This will significantly boost the navy's security and deterrence capabilities in the Aegean and the Mediterranean Seas.

Thus, a new UAV development process will not take years, and Turkey will acquire a system that can be integrated into existing national platforms.

Yeteknoloji AŞ, who introduced Turkey's first electromagnetic rail guns, also manufactures components for the electromagnetic launch system.

In response to the need that may emerge with the navy's use of UAVs, the company decided to develop an electromagnetic catapult. Yeteknoloji AŞ has launched a conceptual design project in this regard and aims to launch a 750-kilogram UAV with an electromagnetic launch system within the next two to three years.

Yeteknoloji AŞ General Manager Fazıl Hızal told Anadolu Agency (AA) that the electromagnetic launch systems have rapidly been adapted for different applications, including weapons, like railguns, and launch systems, said Hızal, adding that such technologies should receive more attention due to the country's needs.

Noting that the U.S. and China are working with electromagnetic technology, Hızal said the U.S. is already using this technology. It can launch aircraft and UAVs using an electromagnetic launch system.

"China is also expected to start using this technology soon. We, as a country, must also join this technology race. We have technologies that can be part of this race. We can make the best UAVs in the world and produce all the components of the electromagnetic launch system in Turkey," he said. "So, we can develop our own system and launch UAVs from vessels. This technology will provide our armed forces with very important capabilities."

Bayraktar TB2 armed drones, produced by Baykar and operational since 2015, have been used to support Turkey's fight against terror on its southern border and during cross-border operations in Syria.

The domestically developed drone is the first and only armed UAV in the Turkish Armed Forces' (TSK) inventory.

With its advanced electronics, software, aerodynamic, design, submarine systems and flight automation and performance, the Bayraktar TB2 is one of the most advanced UAV systems in its class.

Performing active reconnaissance, surveillance and intelligence flights, the Bayraktar TB2 has the ability to transmit images to operation centers without delay and engage targets.

It boasts a service ceiling of 8,239 meters (27,030 feet) and a flight endurance of 24 hours. It can carry 150 kilograms (330 pounds) of payload and can be operated day and night.

On the other hand, ANKA, an advanced Medium Altitude Long Endurance (MALE) class UAV, performs day and night, all-weather reconnaissance, target detection/identification and intelligence missions, featuring autonomous flight capabilities, including automatic takeoff and landing.

What about landing? Having taken off the UAV needs a space to land!..For a UAV with this class of weight, sharply , rapid nosediving could cause suffering damage.
They also aren't expected to land onto sea.
Wondering.

 

[Mert_Ank]

What about landing? Having taken off the UAV needs a space to land!..For a UAV with this class of weight, sharply , rapid nosediving could cause suffering damage.
They also aren't expected to land onto sea.
Wondering.

The real problem is developing sensor package to deploy on existing UAV systems and provide 2D obstacle avoidance and 3D signal capture and implementation of landing and take-off algorithms. Arresting wires stretched on the deck will do the rest

 

[kartal1]

What about landing? Having taken off the UAV needs a space to land!..For a UAV with this class of weight, sharply , rapid nosediving could cause suffering damage.
They also aren't expected to land onto sea.
Wondering.

A plane like Cessna C172 needs roughly 200m of runway to land safely while approach speeds vary around 75kts IAS (Indicated Air Speed) and landing is performed on 60kts IAS. The length of Juan Carlos I LPD of the Spanish Navy is 230.82m according to Wikipedia. With modifications onto the UAVs that can suit them for maritime usage and the existing package for the LHDs I don't think it could be a big problem. Even with manual brake I think it is possible to land it onto the carrier but of course the properties of the pilot depends. I suppose that UAV in the class of ANKA is also doing approach at ~70kts IAS and landing at around 60-65kts IAS.

 

[UkroTurk]

A plane like Cessna C172 needs roughly 200m of runway to land safely while approach speeds vary around 75kts IAS (Indicated Air Speed) and landing is performed on 60kts IAS. The length of Juan Carlos I LPD of the Spanish Navy is 230.82m according to Wikipedia. With modifications onto the UAVs that can suit them for maritime usage and the existing package for the LHDs I don't think it could be a big problem. Even with manual brake I think it is possible to land it onto the carrier but of course the properties of the pilot depends. I suppose that UAV in the class of ANKA is also doing approach at ~70kts IAS and landing at around 60-65kts IAS.

The interesting thing is why they would need magnetic launchers if they landed onto LHDs. İt means uavs can't take of from LHD?

The real problem is developing sensor package to deploy on existing UAV systems and provide 2D obstacle avoidance and 3D signal capture and implementation of landing and take-off algorithms. Arresting wires stretched on the deck will do the rest

Catching a heavy and huge UAV with wires ?? I dunno bro it sounds extraordinary.

 

[mete]

If they are planning this for LPD most of the problem will be solved. It can work like aircraft-jet relation.

Use a catapult for launch, use a cable for landing.

 

[Mert_Ank]

The interesting thing is why they would need magnetic launchers if they landed onto LHDs. İt means uavs can't take of from LHD?


Catching a heavy and huge UAV with wires ?? I dunno bro it sounds extraordinary.

 

[UkroTurk]

Before this discussion, I had thought that you claimed uavs would be launched from frigates. that's why I found the idea extraordinary. All ideas with LPD are okay.

 

[Mert_Ank]

There is a Darpa project for frigates but nothing came out yet

 

[Timur]

what does one fully equipped anka or tb2 cost?