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Akbar's fort symbol of subjugation of Hindus,want the imposing structure to be replaced : VHP

And Akbar was a Muslim ruler? A ruler who invented his own religion called 'Deen Ilahi'? Except, and to some extent, Aurangzeb, all the other Mughal rulers were as far away from Islam as at this point of time, myself and you. And who says English colonialism had nothing to do with Christianity? Who patronized the Christian missionaries? Who erected monasteries, Cathedrals and Churches? You got any idea how many Indians were converted to Christians during British colonial rule?

Can you recognize the following structure and in which Indian city it is?

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St Pauls cathedral Kolkatta, 1847

@ subject, think nothing of such silly suggestions. Orgnisations like VHP need to keep doing such silly things to stay relevant.
 
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There is a famous story about how the Maid of Rani Padmani, Panna Da replaced the prince with her own son when Akbar's men came looking to kill the new born prince Udai Singh.

She then ran away with the real prince.

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Here is a Picture of how Akbar "the great" made a Tower out of Human Skull after the battle of panipath.





Lovely Chap. :lol:
 
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The last I checked it, this was known as Skull tower and was located in Serbia, so when did you transfer it to India:lol::lol:?

That picture was a representative sample of what it would have looked like. :disagree:

The real Monstrosity that Akhar "the great" built was torn down by Hindus ages ago. The Painting of the construction of the skull tower however is from Akbar's own court painter.

I love seeing you squirm when faced with facts.
 
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There is a famous story about how the Maid of Rani Padmani, Panna Da replaced the prince with her own son when Akbar's men came looking to kill the new born prince Udai Singh.

She then ran away with the real prince.

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Didn't Banbir, son of Rana Sanga tried killing Udai Singh? So where did you find Akbar in here....? Aah Is it manipulation of history as usual...

Source:
Panna Dai - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Panna Dai - A symbols of loyalty, bravery, patriotism and sacrifice. - THE BRAVES AND SMARTS

That picture was a representative sample of what it would have looked like. :disagree:

The real Monstrosity that Akhar "the great" built was torn down by Hindus ages ago. The Painting of the construction of the skull tower however is from Akbar's own court painter.

I love seeing you squirm when faced with facts.
Then why post it? To mislead?
 
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Didn't Banbir, son of Rana Sanga tried killing Udai Singh? So where did you find Akbar in here....? Aah Is it manipulation of history as usual...

Source:
Panna Dai - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Panna Dai - A symbols of loyalty, bravery, patriotism and sacrifice. - THE BRAVES AND SMARTS
I did say it was a STORY, not History...... its you who mentioned history. :disagree:


Then why post it? To mislead?

Why not Post it ? People need to see the facts. They need to see the horror and understand the truth about Akbar "the great". History needs to be liberated from the "seculars".

Most people lack imagination and that picture helps people imagine the horror.
 
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LOL Indians were enslaved from Timur to Mountbatten. India's most famous building is a monument to Islam's subjugation of Mahabharata.

Manchu nomads created an apartheid system in China, even forced everyone to wear Manchu clothing, and hair style at the risk of execution, and you're talking about subjugation?

For India to recover from its colonial past, it need to revert ack to its former kingdoms and states.

Before indepedence, 550+ kingdoms had an option to join the union or become independent. They choose to join, because of people like Sardar Patel, etc.

Lovely Chap. :lol:


These people were conquerors, Buddhist, Hindu, etc. doesnt matter. We as normal people today wouldnt like any of them regardless of their religion.
 
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I did say it was a STORY, not History...... its you who mentioned history. :disagree:

Why not Post it ? People need to see the facts. They need to see the horror and understand the truth about Akbar "the great". History needs to be liberated from the "seculars".

Most people lack imagination and that picture helps people imagine the horror.

So what was your intention behind you telling this story since you were trying to tell the truth?
 
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Manchu nomads created an apartheid system in China, even forced everyone to wear Manchu clothing, and hair style at the risk of execution, and you're talking about subjugation?



Manchu did conquer and ruled China over 200 yrs but eventually overthrow by Chinese and Manchu become one of the minority in China, Manchu territory became China territory. In away they want to be part of great China, now they are successful at it.
 
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There is a famous story about how the Maid of Rani Padmani, Panna Da replaced the prince with her own son when Akbar's men came looking to kill the new born prince Udai Singh.

She then ran away with the real prince.

21022012542.jpg


21022012543.jpg


Here is a Picture of how Akbar "the great" made a Tower out of Human Skull after the battle of panipath.





Lovely Chap. :lol:

That was normal in those times. I was reading our district Gazetter written by British. There used to be some chaudhry named Sarwar who made chabutra with over 5000 hindu skulls. These hindus mostly used to steal from farmers so one day chaudhry decided to teach them a lesson.

Now you can give this muslim vs hindu angle, but it seem like he just punished theifs.
 
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Manchu did conquer and ruled China over 200 yrs but eventually overthrow by Chinese and Manchu become one of the minority in China, Manchu territory became China territory. In away they want to be part of great China, now they are successful at it.
 
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[QUOTE="Water Car Engineer, post: 6757025, member: 32471These people were conquerors, Buddhist, Hindu, etc. doesnt matter. We as normal people today wouldnt like any of them regardless of their religion.[/QUOTE]

No they were ISLAMIC Invaders who wanted to establish Islam over a Dharmic land and destroy our Culture and Value system.

Sure they wanted to enjoy a bit while they were at it.

Here is something from Akbar's own historians,

Abul Fazl in Ain-i-Akbari ".. His majesty has established a wine shop near the palace ... The prostitues of the realm collected at the shop could scarcely be counter, so large was their number .. The dancing girls used to be taken home by the courtiers. If any well known courtier wanted to have a virgin they should first have His Majesty's [Akbar's] permission. :woot: In the same way, boys prostituted themselves, :woot: and drunkeness and ignorance soon lead to bloodshed ... His Majesty [Akbar] himself called some of the prostitutes and asked them who had deprived them of their virginity?"

After the Jauhar and Mass killing at Chittor the bastard Akbar dragged the survivors Rani Kamalavati (sister of Rani Durgawati) and the daughter of the Raja of Purangad (daughter-in-law of the deceased queen) into his own HAREM.

Akbar constructed a Mumbar (a pulpit for islamic preachers) for the Koran from the altar of Eklingji (the deity of the Rajput warriors).

After Akbars victorious battle at Ahemadabad, a pyramid was again built with the heads of the enemies, more than 2000 in number.

Here is an incident that demonstrates his evil and bigotry, again recorded by his own historians,

".. while his royal camp was at Thanesar, the famous Hindu place of pilgrimage to the north of Delhi, The Sanyasins assembled at the holy tank were divided into two parties, called the Kurs and Puris. The leader of the latter complained to the King that that the Kurs had unjustly occupied the accustomed sitting place of the Puris who were thus debarred from collecting the pilgrims' alms." They were asked to decide the issue by mortal combat. They were drawn up on either side with their arms drawn. In the fight that ensued the combatants used swords, bows, arrows and stones. "Akbar seeing that the Puris were outnumbered gave a signal to some of his savage followers to help the weaker party."

In this fight between the two Hindu sanyasin sects Akbar saw to it that both were ultimately annihilated by his own fierce soilders. The chronicler unctuously adds that Akbar was highly delighted with this sport.


Hindus were made to pay Jazia Tax. Akbar ordered the Hindus as unbelievers to wear a patch (Tukra) near the shoulders, so that they could be easily identified

Xavier, a Jesuit in Akbar's court, gives a typical instance of Akbar's perfidy in making people drink water in which his feet had been washed. Xavier writes, says Smith (p.189), Akbar posed " as a Prophet, wishing it to be understood that he works miracles through healing the sick by means of the water in which he washed the feet." Badauni says that this [the above] special type of humiliation was reserved by Akbar only for Hindus. Says Badayuni, "... if other than Hindus came, and wished to become disciples at any sacrifice, His Majesty reproved them."

Here is what Monserrate writs, a contemporary of Akbar, "the religious zeal of the Musalmans has destroyed all the idol temples which used to be numerous. In place of Hindu temples, countless tombs and little shrines of wicked and worthless Musalmans have been erected in which these men are worshipped with vain superstition as though they were saints."
 
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That was normal in those times. I was reading our district Gazetter written by British. There used to be some chaudhry named Sarwar who made chabutra with over 5000 hindu skulls. These hindus mostly used to steal from farmers so one day chaudhry decided to teach them a lesson.

Now you can give this muslim vs hindu angle, but it seem like he just punished theifs.

Sounds like sarwar was a Muslim. Building a chabutra with Hindu skulls was an OLD muslim practice.

Hindus have fare more civilized ways of punishing theft. Far more civilized than chopping of 5000 Hindu heads to punish 1 or 2 Thief's :coffee:

Dude, Akbar wasnt even a Muslim. The guy created a cult mixing things from Islam, Hinduism, Jainism, Christianity, etc.

Din-e Ilahi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh he was a muslim all right, the new religion came along MUCH MUCH Later.

Then again let me repeat about his new religion Din-e-iiahi,

Xavier, a Jesuit in Akbar's court, gives a typical instance of Akbar's perfidy in making people drink water in which his feet had been washed. Xavier writes, says Smith (p.189), Akbar posed " as a Prophet, wishing it to be understood that he works miracles through healing the sick by means of the water in which he washed the feet." Badauni says that this [the above] special type of humiliation was reserved by Akbar only for Hindus. Says Badayuni, "... if other than Hindus came, and wished to become disciples at any sacrifice, His Majesty reproved them."
 
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You really need to stop bring an Hindu, etc. angle into everything.

If free thinking modern Muslims cant stand their dictators all over the Arab world. And if free thinking Indians, mostly Hindus cant stand corrupt politicians, mostly Hindus. What makes you think you're going to like Kings and their brats if you were a commoner then? Regardless of their religion?

All of these conquers were brutal and a lot of them were probably psychopathic in the way they treat commoners.
 
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