Air War Is Coming:---

[Champion_Usmani]

Let's be sure about one thing.

Indians are no fools.

They will not risk full fledged open war. Indians will not fight such a war, whose end or conclusion they can't predict, they will not want to be in a situation, where things can get out of control. They have lot more to loose than what Pakistan may loose.

They did not started war in 71, until they got firm assurances/ backing from, then Soviet Union & got complete confidence of a win against surrounded and depleted forces of Gen Niazi.

Yes, few more skirmishes looks like a possibility, but not more than that.

But having said that, We as nation, must stay united & ready for all eventualities.

Most of all have trust on ALLAH PAK.

In the fight between right & wrong, only righteous comes out as a winner, every time & always.

Bayshak HAQ ghalib anay k liye ha aur batil mit janay k liye.

 

[Basel]

Money problems

Nope, what I posted it can be done on defferred payment.

 

[Tps43]

Here Azmat FACs will be very handy, fast l, steathy, equipped with 280km range AShM and NCW capable.

They will get a surprise for sure

 

[Wa Muhammada]

Spot on
They sent 12 ship formation on border 2 days ago

Nope they are upto something serious

Expand on this bro
What’s your intel?

 

[countryman]

Hi, There is a heavy prediction of a future air to air conflict in the coming days --- but it is baffled---

Future isn't always what we predicted but we prepare ourselves for the worst - I do agree with you on possibility of future conflict for all the reasons already known but I strongly disagree with you on how to tackle this situation.

As others mentioned, we cannot do anything in short run except to utilize our current inventory and relationships - In long run - we've two choices:
1. Act irrationally, indulge ourselves in brawl oriented approach - spook ourselves with outcomes, spend everything we've on tit-for-tat preparedness and choose to cease our existence in face of defeat.
2. Act rationally, commit to solution oriented approach - solve our differences and if not possible choose what to respond very carefully, give up our war paranoia and invest in our future.

The second option is essentially way of a wise man in my view, while the first is the choice of rag-tag man who is tired of his existence, have nothing to loose and chooses to go homicidal to induce others to respect him - I think this way, ultimately, is his on own suicide. However, it's unfortunate, we're letting emotions dilute our judgement of reality lately; people want show of force to gain small victories; cat is dead or alive - leave it for surprise - deep down we already know the outcome.

PS: I'm nobody to have say in this matter but still I'm your countryman and for the sake of our own future I would suggest our countrymen choose rational approach.

 

[Mentee]

An opportunity to smack the enemy big time lost again - - - - - - - -.

Guys do you folks have any idea what we achieved against the best of the enemy?

They used every prime asset that they could throw at us and failed both times.

While on the other side Pak airforce stunts of dog fight was just for the public consumption as a common man is still stuck in the past. For him it has to be visible, it has to be look like some sorta brawl. As someone said before it was a teaser of our EW capabilites - - - - -

How many jets do the Indian force possesses ? The number is for sure not infinitive. What if the paf roasts half of the Indian airforce strength in the first blow? a naval strike of stand off weapons at Indian bays with our military making an ingress in Kashmir and bring India to the dialogue table?

War will eventually get us now it's up to us to make an excuse and preempt it or let our assets get depleted by the enemy's first strike. That will by default push into a situation of misery which many members fear.

P:S: MAD option has become obsolete.

Indians are no fools.

They will not risk full fledged open war. Indians will not fight such a war, whose end or conclusion they can't predict,

You may be correct but we have to act to put an end to their economic choking. These flexing of muscles require money - - - - - -.

 

[aliyusuf]

Indian military/political psyche and ego have been bruised in the recent happenings. There is no way in hell they are not going to try and even the score. Especially Modi. He is almost going berserk in his frenzy to get some trophy points to boost his election chances. So, yes there is definitely going to be some thing. The Pakistan armed forces need to stay alert and vigilant and be prepared to go to war.

The next air campaign can comprise of a lot more fighters coming in from dozens of different places … wearing thin Pakistani assets required to respond to them. They have a numerical superiority and they have the luxury of choosing the time and place. They won't be repeating their mistakes. So in that account I tend to agree with @MastanKhan, that the initiative has somehow shifted to them. We had a golden opportunity to sink their submarine. We should have sunk it. That would have made them re-think this limited war scenario.

We needed to keep on hurting them on their exploratory incursions on the land, air and sea. To make them understand the high price it will incur if hostilities are pushed from the Indian side. This restraint is giving them time and space to maneuver to a position of their choosing.

Just my two cents.

 

[Tps43]

Expand on this bro
What’s your intel?

I can’t national security issue but they are upto something serious

 

[crankthatskunk]

Hi,

There is a heavy prediction of a future air to air conflict in the coming days---. India is getting some serious advice from " foreign mercenaries " in how to attack and destroy Paf---.

Right now is the lull before the storm---. Pakistan is not going to gain anything by looking for peace or acting peaceful---.

Paf might suffer heavily at the hands of the enemy---. It made the ultimate blunder in combat by not attacking the enemy the first time---.

That was the moment to escalate the situation and knock out the enemy ingressing aircraft right then and there at the border---.

It would have been possible to shoot down at least 15 --- 20 enemy aircraft at three different places of incursion.

Now that would have shown the preparedness of the air force against a surprise attack and its will to fight---.

But letting the enemy go was a show of Incompetence and a lack of decision making under duress by the pakistani Air Chief Marshall Mujahid Anwar---.

Prime Minster must order the military chief to court martial the Air chief marshall for a lackadaisical approach against enemy force during first strike and dismiss him from service in total disgrace---.

The result of the second skirmish set up by the Paf had more predictability in favoring the Paf---due to the trap setup by the Paf---. The trap was of a limited setup----then locking and pointing the strike weapons away from the original lock was strange as well---. Why play that game---.

At this moment---the enemy is not beaten---but it is baffled---

I agree Imran and the Military Brass had made blunders.

1- Not taking out their Military chief and others on the day of the attack. It would have sent a very loud messages to Indians and destroy their will to fight.

2- PAF should have hit all the locked targets and cause massive troops casualties which would be the case if battalion and brigade head quarters were hit , together with ammunition depots etc.

3- Should have gone for further targets, like air strips and parked aircrafts of IAF.

4- Should have drowned both Submarines of Indians when they detected them instead of issuing warnings.

Pakistanis have shown weakness to their enemies in the name of peace. Does Imran really thinks that Modi is for peace!!
He is wounded and like a wounded snake he is going to turn and bite Pakistan,guaranteed.

I have written this here immediately after the strikes. I am certain now that Israel name is also out of the closet, it will also try to restore their reputation.
Imran you are mistaken to think of your deadliest enemies as peace lovers.

 

[hussain0216]

Indians have been humiliated

This more then anything will force them in the future

The bruise to their ego can be soothed with their constant dramabazi and media but not in reality

 

[OCguy]

I can’t national security issue but believe me they are upto something serious

 

[Tps43]

Kunt kehili jazbeh

 

[OCguy]

Kunt kehili jazbeh

You wouldn't even be trusted with your family secret recipes.

This board is full of .mil and IC connected members, some who know things. But you will never see them claim to.

 

[Tps43]

You wouldn't even be trusted with your family secret recipes.

This board is full of .mil and IC connected members, some who know things. But you will never see them claim to.

People know me here and I said what I need to and how much it was required , ur opinion doesn’t matter.
U r picking up fight with wrong guy lad

 

[batmannow]

India attacking air bases or any military infrastructure will mean an all out war. Neither India not Pakistan can afford it. Yes it might be the quite before the storm but the storm will be more skirmishes, incursions around and across LoC.

And Thts the mind set which led that balakot strike, cause our generals were thinking they won't come inside, and they did?
So basicliy, Tht whole equation tht india won't take any chance to escalate further more is totally wrong?
It's the same approach which let ABOTTABAD happened earlier?
That everyone in the world wants peace?
No its simple when ever they have a chance they will attack you, and if you don't let that happen then, do it frist, Indian Air Force and Indian navy is too afraid to come face to face against Pakistani forces, and if any thing stupid happens pakistan should go for the kill india cant just push the nuclear trigger, and if it do so, then we will hve better chance to cut it in pieces cause then no one will say a word about it and we won't be seen aggressors right now after Chinese depty forighen minster visited Islamabad, a green signal been givin to pak forces if India does any foolish activities again, pak forces will not only respond but will go in to India and may create many independent states after destroying Indias attacking capabilities, and also to take out terrorists hindu extermists leadership all that quietness is happening because of the Israeli pilot in the custody of pak forces, and Pakistan just even denied KSA the custody of that israeli captured pilot, and is waitin for the official response from Israeli govt to open tht box of worms