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I'm talking about the same issue. I'm not allowing people to kill someone on the basis of such allegation.

My point is now this issue of oil tanker tragedy is also being cashed by the anti-blasphemy law elements who have their roots in the anti-Pakistan countries.
This law is fundamentally wrong even according to many Muslim scholars!!
How can you blame a non muslim when you cause them enough trouble and harass them to that level that they stoop so low coz of tje pain and say such things.
Who is responsible that muslim or non muslim??
That muslim I'll say for 100%.
But who'll get killed?? You know
And yes this happens for sure...
This is a society where there are Muslims who think it to be tjeir duty to harass and convert non muslims by force!!
 
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The symbols are only for those who see...
We are blind people.
And leave blasphemy alone for a moment. It was Ramzan and they were stealing, its pathetic enough to imagine!!
Yaar that oil was a wasted commodity ,not exactly it was stealing. There were fields nearby with those wide grooves between which oil had flowed in. People were collecting it from there.
There could be stealing involved i wont deny that but some part of the resource was wasted too.

If stealing was not really there even then the biggest mistake was to put their precious lives on line for collecting oil like this. But still i wont call them bad, they are dead and they suffered a painful death , how much more we would want to verbally flog those dead. I mean what they did was wrong but calling the blaze a punishment is too like getting too judgy.

Thats how i see it., also cause none of us are saints , we all commit sins,
 
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Its true, it was reported by Al Jazeera!!

However, Al-Jazeera doesn't have lunatic reporters who are linking this oil tanker incident with some blasphemy case.

Many innocent people are killed everyday, of course without a blasphemy, but they escape any judgment, any punishment.

Why does the nature's justice work only in case of blasphemy?

Why don't Americans face tsunamis, earthquakes and hell fire from the heavens for the deeds they have done to the peaceful world?
 
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Improve your English. Use 'signs' instead of 'symbols'.

Along with English, improve your IQ and knowledge of ethics (Islam) too.
Stop licking goora ***...
And improve your forgiveness skills!! Don't islam teaches us to let go??
Baqi aap bn jao Moulana.... I have no interest in engaging in ego wars with some pathetic poor creatures... Peace ✌

Yaar that oil was a wasted commodity ,not exactly it was stealing. There were fields nearby with those wide grooves between which oil had flowed in. People were collecting it from there.
There could be stealing involved i wont deny that but some part of the resource was wasted too.

If stealing was not really there even then the biggest mistake was to put their precious lives on line for collecting oil like this. But still i wont call them bad, they are dead and they suffered a painful death , how much more we would want to verbally flog those dead. I mean what they did was wrong but calling the blaze a punishment is too like getting too judgy.

Thats how i see it., also cause none of us are saints , we all commit sins,
Would it have happened in any developed nation or nation full of ethics?? No
Wasted but not for your personal use.
Shell could have recollected it. If i drop something, it won't give someone else right to get it, its still mine!
But i won't say your point of view is wrong...
Its yours so you can live with it!!
 
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This law is fundamentally wrong even according to many Muslim scholars!!
How can you blame a non muslim when you cause them enough trouble and harass them to that level that they stoop so low coz of tje pain and say such things.
Who is responsible that muslim or non muslim??
That muslim I'll say for 100%.
But who'll get killed?? You know
And yes this happens for sure...
This is a society where there are Muslims who think it to be tjeir duty to harass and convert non muslims by force!!
Capital punishment in blasphemy law is not right nor in my opinion is supported by islam. Islam is so much about kindness and forgiveness
 
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biggest problem is the lack of basic education.

Pakistan elementary and middle schools have to introduce Ethic and Moral lessons, till rural level.
People with low IQs have to be taught how to behave under certain conditions.

These so called human rights activists don't care when people die of other causes. They only wake up when there's a blasphemy case in Pakistan. Then they all get up to do their 'extensive' and spicy reporting so that the anti-Islamic haters will send more dollars for their 'constructive work'. You know how these local NGOs are fooling the western masters to make money. They open ghost schools, take pictures, send them through emails to a boss sitting in New York or London and go and debit money from the bank account.



Everything wrong is with the education system. You're right. Schools are nothing better than a zoo. And religious schools and masjids have no time left after teaching Arabic, Logic (mantiq), Hadith and Fiqh.

You go attend Friday prayers, before salah, the maulvi sahib goes with a long lecture by condemning people who don't pray, don't do good, or else he will go ahead with pointing fingers at other sects and their creatures.

No one here teaches Pakistanis how to behave, how to treat people, how to cross a road, how to talk to people. No civics at all. So called literate people act like the most jahils in the world.

Becoming a teacher is very easy in Pakistan. You don't get a job, no worries, go find a school and be a teacher. The most stupid people with lowest IQ are primary and secondary school teachers in this country and are paid likewise.

No one realises that primary education is the actual investment in a child's life.

Believe me when i say if experience hasn't taught a 60+ years old man something as fundamental as stealing than no school can teach this society.
This system is corrupted and a reboot is needed.


Biggest problem is unlimited greed and haram khori...

If you were to throw a thick wade of $20 or 50$ currency notes in a busy square in a big city of USA: What in your opinion would happen? People will loot or no one will pay attention?
Has anyone remembered what happened in USA when electricity when off in night many years back or in UK when general population went on looting spree?
 
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Capital punishment in blasphemy law is not right nor in my opinion is supported by islam. Islam is so much about kindness and forgiveness
Simply, its not so simple....
There is a whole complex process in which many many factors are to be judged even if blasphemy is proven!!

If you were to throw a thick wade of $20 or 50$ currency notes in a busy square in a big city of USA: What in your opinion would happen? People will loot or no one will pay attention?
Has anyone remembered what happened in USA when electricity when off in night many years back or in UK when general population went on looting spree?
You threw them....
It wasn't falling from SHELL tanker...
Or some bank's carriage.
Think again
Try again
 
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Stop licking goora ***...
And improve your forgiveness skills!! Don't islam teaches us to let go??
Baqi aap bn jao Moulana.... I have no interest in engaging in ego wars with some pathetic poor creatures... Peace ✌


Would it have happened in any developed nation or nation full of ethics?? No
Wasted but not for your personal use.
Shell could have recollected it. If i drop something, it won't give someone else right to get it, its still mine!
But i won't say your point of view is wrong...
Its yours so you can live with it!!
Frankly even westerners ethics are not so much perfect.
Secondly on our side its lack of awarenss campaigns, 3rd world country ,greediness, poverty, police didnt do their job, driver was over speeding, tanker was not upto safety standards, absence of burn unit (not all people who fell victim were stealing some were passerbys or just watching the gold rush)
See noone is saying that people were not in fault but now that they are gone , still cursing them or calling them bad ....is not indicative of good "morals" either.
 
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Capital punishment in blasphemy law is not right nor in my opinion is supported by islam. Islam is so much about kindness and forgiveness

Capital punishment in blasphemy is debatable. But the more West is becoming narrow minded and extremist, the more we see a reaction at home. Unless Western nations leave their Islamophobia, you will not see any kindness and forgiveness on our part.

Simply, its not so simple....
There is a whole complex process in which many many factors are to be judged even if blasphemy is proven!

See? This is your objective, Mirza Gentleman.

You wanted to address Pakistan's blasphemy laws and you used oil tanker incident as an excuse to serve your purpose.
 
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Capital punishment in blasphemy is debatable. But the more West is becoming narrow minded and extremist, the more we see a reaction at home. Unless Western nations leave their Islamophobia, you will not see any kindness and forgiveness on our part.
See its incumbent upon us to improve our country so that our people would not have to move either to west or anywhere else for better economic opportunities. So dont wait for anyone else to change, change your own country and its system. Islamophobia undoubtedly is on rise but yet many muslims live their happily and dont wnat to move back to countries of orgins
 
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Ethic/ moral training.
Better policing.
Education through media/ cartoons like the old days.
 
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See its incumbent upon us to improve our country so that our people would not have to move either to west or anywhere else for better economic opportunities. So dont wait for anyone else to change, change your own country and its system. Islamophobia undoubtedly is on rise but yet many muslims live their happily and dont wnat to move back to countries of orgins

Well, there's no ideal place in the world. I have lived in the west but finally decided to come back to Pakistan for certain reasons. And we don't wanna go back. There are certain things better in Pakistan and certain things worse than in the West.

People have not only been moving to the West, but to the East also (Middle East); so this is wrong to say that West is a Paradise.
 
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See? This is your objective, Mirza Gentleman.

You wanted to address Pakistan's blasphemy laws and you used oil tanker incident as an excuse to serve your purpose.
May Allah of last Prophet(PBUH) forgive you and uncover your eyes from burning hatred.
Hadis (Bukhari)
If someone calls his Muslim brother something and it turns out his accusation was wrong that that accusation is applied back on the accusor.
(As i am a Mirza gentelman so you being a true muslim can confirm Sehat of this Hadis)
Regards!
 
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You have to sacrifice a lot of things in the West for the life you chose there. Crimes are committed over there also, Muslim immigrants are killed in America and Europe also. Hijabi girls have also been killed because they wear hijab. They are thrown insults because of their skin colour and dress code which tell that they are Muslims.

May Allah of last Prophet(PBUH) forgive you and uncover your eyes from burning hatred.
Hadis (Bukhari)
If someone calls his Muslim brother something and it turns out his accusation was wrong that that accusation is applied back on the accusor.
(As i am a Mirza gentelman so you being a true muslim can confirm Sehat of this Hadis)
Regards!

Ok I take my words back, Maulana Gentleman!
 
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You have to sacrifice a lot of things in the West for the life you chose there. Crimes are committed over there also, Muslim immigrants are killed in America and Europe also. Hijabi girls have also been killed because they wear hijab. They are thrown insults because of their skin colour and dress code which tell that they are Muslims.
But they are kafirs are you Moulana are Muslims!!
You are better, deemed to rule and be better at everything.
While you aren't not even in all those thing's rate you're comparing yourself with west.
They kill muslims those qafirs, while here the father and brothers burn their sisters and daughters.
Feel free to compare and come back!

Ok I take my words back, Maulana Gentleman!
But i never forgave you and i never will...
You fu** face...
 
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