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No matter how much you dislike the US, their military hardware is still unmatched. I am no military expert but what according to the published material; it is one hell of a combat helo. The deal would be under FMS programme; $952-million payment is probably spread out over quite a few years.

I respect the GHQ planners and am pretty sure that the decision was made after a great deal of analysis & diligence. US had initially declined our request for AH1-Z, probably Russian offer of MI-35, made the US change her mind.
 
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WASHINGTON: The Pentagon has notified US Congress about the state department's approval of a military arms package worth nearly $1 billion for Pakistan, ostensibly in support of its counterterrorism and counter-insurgency operations.

The list of arms and armaments notified for possible sale by the Defence Security Cooperation Agency in its communication to Congress on Monday includes 15 AH-1Z Viper attack helicopters, 1000 AGM-114 R Hellfire II missiles in containers, 32 T-700 GE 401C engines (30 installed and 2 spares) and 17 AN/AAQ-30 Target sight systems.

The package also includes 30 629F-23 ultra high frequency/very high frequency communication systems, 19 H-764 embedded global positioning system/inertial navigation systems, 32 helmet mounted display/optimized top owl, 17 APX-117A identification friend or foe, 17 AN/AAR-47 missile warning systems, 17 AN/ALE-47 countermeasure dispenser sets, 18 AN/APR-39C(V)2 radar warning receivers, 15 joint mission planning systems, and 17 M197 20mm gun systems.

The proposed sale "will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the US by helping to improve the security of a country vital to US foreign policy and national security goals in South Asia," the DSCA said in its notification, adding that the helicopters and weapon systems will provide Pakistan with military capabilities in support of its counterterrorism and counter-insurgency operations in South Asia.

It also assured the Congress that the proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region where the US has also emerged as a large arms supplier to India.

Elaborating on the use of the arms package, the notification said the proposed sale will provide Pakistan with a precision strike, enhanced survivability aircraft that it can operate at high-altitudes. By acquiring this capability, it said, Pakistan will enhance its ability to conduct operations in North Waziristan Agency (NWA), the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA), and other remote and mountainous areas in all-weather, day-and-night environments.

The sale, worth $952 million according to Pentagon estimates, is expected to go through without a hitch even though Pakistan lives a parlous, hand-to-mouth existence and US lawmakers and officials periodically vent their frustration about the country's two-timing, double-dealing ways in the war on terrorism and extremism.

Many of the military contractors involved are constituents of lawmakers who prize the creation of jobs and maintaining it in their districts above all else. The principal contractors of the Pakistan package will be Bell Helicopter, Textron in Fort Worth, General Electric in Lynn, The Boeing Company in Huntsville, and Lockheed Martin in Bethesda, Maryland.
 
yaap thats why I am saying they will serve our 'future need' ....

Talibans ke liya 'Basi Cobra' se hi kam chalan para ga .... 'taza maal' paroosi ke sawagt main kaam aye ga ....

If they get those 15 machines in time, it still looks like that Talibans will be used as the lab rats to get the idea about how the Zulus behave and stand.Gives your pilot the grooming environment before he is confident enough with out any nerves.They have to get through those moments before any other test arrives.

With 15 being the number, it's hard to fathom that we can skip on the Z-10 option.Z-10 carries a greater potential as far as the future development is concerned and the Chinese will be more than happy to provide us with any of the technical or infrastructural support than we may aim to acquire in future.
 
@Manticore Is its coming with AN/Apg apg Mmr there is no mention of it anywhere or in Any source.
 
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Nope, no Longbow radars for Pakistan's Vipers.
That's why Pakistan is getting AGM-114R only and not the AGM-114L which was specifically designed for Longbow radar equipped Helis.
 
The Sale is under FMS program,So question remains still alive is it US funded or Pakistani Funded deal?
 
Not a good idea at all. Too expensive and we're relying on an unreliable supplier. There are better alternatives out there. There is a reason why the Yanks are suddenly so eager to sell attack choppers. These are the same Americans that were unwilling to sell any attack choppers to Pakistan before. Russia and China are willing to sell attack choppers.

I agree with your opinion, Pakistan should avoid those sanction able helicopters even if they are very advance because if sanctions are implemented those will be near to useless like our F-16s were in 90s.

@NKVD
Nope, no Longbow radars for Pakistan's Vipers.
That's why Pakistan is getting AGM-114R only and not the AGM-114L which was specifically designed for Longbow radar equipped Helis.

Then Pakistan should go for other vendors because they can offer better weapons package with no threat of sanctions and possibly with TOT.

Again, ATAK would be very good, if US equipment was off limits......but since now the US has approved, that question is gone.
So for the back bone, it would be WZ10 or ATAK.....whichever offers better performance/reliability/tailored systems.

Plus it is AH-1z a tested western system vs ATAK....we need to put helos in action today.......they are desperately needed.

If you want tested tech then Mi-28NE with MWR will be much better option then Zulus.
 
Pakistan seeks Viper attack helos, Hellfire missiles
The U.S. Congress has been notified of a possible sale of helicopters and missiles to Pakistan for use in its counter-insurgency efforts.



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Pakistan is seeking AH-1Z attack helicopters and Hellfire missiles. Photo: U.S. Marine Corps


State Dept. OKs $952M Pakistan Helo Deal

By Joe Gould and Usman Ansari

WASHINGTON — The US State Department has cleared a $952 million sale to Pakistan that includes 15 AH-1Z Viper attack helicopters and 1,000 Hellfire II missiles, according to a Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) announcement.

The sale is intended to support Pakistan's counterterrorism and counterinsurgency operations with a precision-strike, enhanced-survivability aircraft that can operate at high-altitudes, according to DSCA's Monday announcement. Pakistan would use the gear in operations in the North Waziristan Agency, the Federally Administered Tribal Areas and other remote and mountainous areas in all-weather, day-and-night environments.

"This proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a country vital to U.S. foreign policy and national security goals in South Asia," the announcement says.

The local Bell representatives in Pakistan, Access Zone, did not respond to queries regarding when they expected delivery should the deal be approved, or if they hoped more would be acquired to fully replace the approximately 48 Cobras currently in service.

Analysts in Pakistan expressed surprise at the announcement. Though the Viper had long been suggested as a replacement for the current fleet of AH-1F/S helicopter gunships, US congressional opposition seemed to make acquisition of further US equipment unlikely.

Analyst, author and former Australian defense attache to Islamabad, Brian Cloughley, says he was "absolutely certain that the US would not supply any more attack helicopters."

But he welcomes the announcement.

"This is very good news for Pakistan on two counts: First, the Army is getting one of the most sophisticated attack helicopters in the world; second, it shows that the US has not abandoned Pakistan, as so many people thought it had," he said.

"It does require the assent of Congress," said Cloughley, "but if Congress were to block it this would send a negative message concerning its determination to keep up the war on terror."

This is not to say that unrestricted arms sales will resume as "it seems that the main criterion is that US-supplied materiel must be COIN [counterinsurgency] specific. There would be difficulty in providing systems that are obviously intended for general warfare, i.e. against India," Cloughley says.

Claude Rakisits, nonresident senior fellow at the Atlantic Council's South Asia Center, said that "in its deliberations about whether to approve such a sale to Pakistan, the fact that the provision of this new capability will not alter the military balance between the two nuclear-armed states – Pakistan and India – will make it easier for the lawmakers to agree to this sale."

The announcement comes at a time when multiple types of helicopters are being pursued, both to replace the Cobras, and potentially support paramilitary and special forces operations.

Analyst Haris Khan of the Pakistan Military Consortium think tank said that even though it is a small number, the Vipers could replace at least some of the Cobras and it comes at a time when China has supplied three WZ-10 gunships, and Russia may be close to supplying approximately 20 Mi-35 Hinds

Agence France-Press reported Friday that Pakistan has in recent weeks focused its fight against the Taliban on the Tirah Valley, a Federally Administered Tribal Area, with a series of air strikes and ground assaults. Though the area, with steep valleys and dense woods, is inaccessible, Pakistan's military has claimed it has taken control of key terrain there.



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Pakistan had sought new helicopter gunships for the best part of a decade to replace the Cobras, which have been fast wearing out due to the pace of operations against the Pakistani Taliban and its allies in and around the tribal areas bordering Afghanistan. In November, it appeared Pakistan was closing a deal for Mi-35 Hind heavy attack helicopters, based on a Pakistani radio interview with Russia's ambassador.

The US sale includes 32 T-700 GE 401C engines; 36 H-1 technical refresh mission computers; 17 AN/AAQ-30 target sight systems; 30 629F-23 ultra high frequency/very high frequency communication systems; 19 H-764 embedded global positioning system/inertial navigation systems; 32 helmet mounted display/optimized top owl; 17 APX-117A identification friend or foe; 17 AN/AAR-47 missile warning systems; 17 AN/ALE-47 countermeasure dispenser sets; 18 AN/APR-39C(V)2 radar warning receivers; 15 joint mission planning systems; and 17 M197 20mm gun systems.

Bell Helicopter, Textron, General Electric, Boeing and Lockheed Martin will be the principal contractors.

State Dept. OKs $952M Pakistan Helo Deal
 
it will make pakistan helicopters ki hera mandi :P

By going your logic hum Supplier bun jayen gay :D :D LMAO. Khud kiflat ki janib aik aur qadam :D.

Apart from joking Imran this is an opportunity to grab even if we got only 18 to 24 Zulu's through which we may learn and may provide us some benchmark to achieve and exceed so with full TOT of ATAK as we have been offered and Z-10 availability may make us become virtually un-sanctionable in Hele Gunship and Light to medium transport if adopted with similar path like engine and subsystems commonality until we won't fu(ked up big time.
 
To be backbone of Army we should have at least 30 of these
Yeah 15 tu annay day yar! 30 bhe ho jain gay. At the moment these 15 are much needed for offensive against TTP.
 
WASHINGTON: The US State Department has approved Pakistan’s request for a billion dollars worth of military hardware and equipment, identifying Pakistan as a country of vital importance for US foreign policy and national interests.

Diplomatic sources told Dawn Pakistan had submitted its request last year, stating that the weapons were needed for fighting insurgents in the country’s mountainous regions.

The US Defence Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale.

“This proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a country vital to US foreign policy and national security goals in South Asia,” the certification said.

“This proposed sale of helicopters and weapon systems will provide Pakistan with military capabilities in support of its counter-terrorism and counter-insurgency operations in South Asia,” it added.

The agency informed US lawmakers that this proposed sale would provide Pakistan with “a precision strike, enhanced survivability aircraft” that it can operate at high-altitudes.

“By acquiring this capability, Pakistan will enhance its ability to conduct operations in North Waziristan, Fata, and other remote and mountainous areas in all-weather, day-and-night environments. Pakistan will have no difficulty absorbing these helicopters into its armed forces,” the certification said.

The agency also assured US lawmakers that the proposed sale “will not alter the basic military balance in the region”.

It informed Congress that the State Department had approved this possible Foreign Military Sale to Pakistan for AH-1Z Viper Attack Helicopters and AGM-114R Hellfire II Missiles and associated equipment, parts, training and logistical support for an estimated cost of $952 million.

The notification said the government of Pakistan had requested a possible sale of 15 AH-1Z Viper Attack Helicopters, 32 T-700 GE 401C Engines (30 installed and 2 spares), 1000 AGM-114 R Hellfire II Missiles in containers, 36 H-1 Technical Refresh Mission computers, 17 AN/AAQ-30 Target Sight Systems, 30 629F-23 Ultra High Frequency/Very High Frequency Communication Systems, 19 H-764 Embedded Global Positioning System/Inertial Navigation Systems, 32 Helmet Mounted Display/Optimized Top Owl, 17 APX-117A Identification Friend or Foe, 17 AN/AAR-47 Missile Warning Systems, 17 AN/ALE-47 Counter-measure Dispenser Sets, 18

AN/APR-39C(V)2 Radar Warning Receivers, 15 Joint Mission Planning Systems, and 17 M197 20mm Gun Systems.

Also included are system integration and testing, software development and integration, aircraft ferry, support equipment, spare and repair parts, tools and test equipment, publications and technical documentation, personnel training and training equipment, US government and contractor engineering, technical, and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistics and programme support.

The agency informed Congress that implementation of this proposed sale will require multiple trips by US government and contractor representatives to participate in programme and technical reviews, as well as training and maintenance support in the country for a period of 66 months.

It will also require three contractor representatives to reside in the country for a period of three years to support this programme.

“There will be no adverse impact on US defence readiness as a result of this proposed sale,” the certification said.

“The State Department approved a possible foreign military sale to Pakistan for helicopters and associated equipment, parts and support for an estimated cost of $952 million,” a State Department official told Dawn.

“This proposed sale of helicopters and weapon systems will provide Pakistan with military capabilities in support of its counter-terrorism and counter-insurgency operations,” the official said.

Published in Dawn, April 8th, 2015
 
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******** mandi of Helicopters LOL Mi 35, Z10, Cobra AH1Z, Cobra F/S, Bell 412, Bell UH, Euro Fennce, Mi17, Mi8 etc feel feel Supaaa powaaaa with 8+ growth LOLzzzzzzzzzzz :rofl:

8 Subs
Further talk for western sub
4 Frigates
15 AH1Z
Z10 (Under testing)
Mi 35 (Deal btw)
Testing Norinco VT Tank
Nural

Mama boooooot paisa nahe agaya hamaray paas achanak :lol:
 
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