AH-1Z Viper, 1000 Hellfire II Missiles approved for sale to Pakistan.

[VelocuR]

Already discussed thousand times - AH-1Z Viper, 1000 Hellfire Missiles approved for sale to Pakistan.

What's this in this picture? AH-1Z helicopter?

$1Billion = 15 A-1Z Helicopter
$1Billion = 30 A-1Z Helicopter
$1Billion = 45 A-1Z Helicopter
$1Billion = 60 A-1Z Helicopter
$1Billion = 75 A-1Z Helicopter
$1Billion = 90 A-1Z Helicopter
$1Billion = 105 A-1Z Helicopter

6-7.5 billions dollars!

 

[A2Z]

Suddenly when Pakistan is ready to buy Russian helicopters and China trying its best to sell Pakistan Z-10, USA looks towards selling Pakistan AH-1Z. Looks like Russia-Pakistan relations are doing their magic.

 

[VelocuR]

Let's look at South Korea's decision

On 21 September 2012, the U.S. Congress was notified of the possible purchase of 36 AH-1Z Vipers by South Korea. The request included 84 engines (72 installed and 12 spares), 288 AGM-114K3 Hellfire missiles, 72 AIM-9M-8 Sidewinder missiles, integrated missiles launchers, targeting systems, and radar jammers.

The order would be worth $2.6 billion. The Viper was competing against the Boeing AH-64 Apache and theTAI/AgustaWestland T-129 for the order; a decision was expected by the end of 2012.

In April 2013, South Korea announced they had selected the AH-64E Apache.

 

[cabatli_53]

Let's look at South Korea's decision

On 21 September 2012, the U.S. Congress was notified of the possible purchase of 36 AH-1Z Vipers by South Korea. The request included 84 engines (72 installed and 12 spares), 288 AGM-114K3 Hellfire missiles, 72 AIM-9M-8 Sidewinder missiles, integrated missiles launchers, targeting systems, and radar jammers.

The order would be worth $2.6 billion. The Viper was competing against the Boeing AH-64 Apache and theTAI/AgustaWestland T-129 for the order; a decision was expected by the end of 2012.

In April 2013, South Korea announced they had selected the AH-64E Apache.

S. Korea had an assembly line and operator of Apache copters. This tender just served to decrease the price. I mean the result was clear during tender process.

 

[SipahSalar]

This is hardly something to brag about, this is more indicative of poor planning and limited budgets and this is just a maintenance and logistical headache for the PAA in the long term. Massive armies like the US and Russia actually only operate 1 or 2 types of attack helo NOT five.

Who said we are operating 5 helos? It's just Cobras till now. Not much different between AH-1F and AH-1Z in regards to logistics.
The Mi-35 is for Anti-Narcotics Force. They have nothing to do with army aviation.
Z-10 is still undergoing trials.

 

[Pomegranate]

that's a great news for pakistan .................. Pakistan is busy these days purchasing some good weapons ..

 

[Mustang06]

What about T-129?...
Pakistan has been on a shopping spree for the last few weeks!
Congrats if its true!..You can use all the help against Talibans!

 

[Muhammad Omar]

What about T-129?...
Pakistan has been on a shopping spree for the last few weeks!
Congrats if its true!..You can use all the help against Talibans!

15 Zulu For Pakistan Army Aviation and 20 Mi-35 For Anti Narcotic Force are confirmed

3 Wz-10 are under Trials

No News about T-129 or Mi-28

 

[Mustang06]

15 Zulu For Pakistan Army Aviation and 20 Mi-35 For Anti Narcotic Force are confirmed

3 Wz-10 are under Trials

No News about T-129 or Mi-28

So if Z-10 ticks all the boxes for PA, can we expect Z-10 instead of ATAK?

 

[Bratva]

BTW, I don't suppose Pakistan is going to order attack helicopters from multiple sources because Turkey/Pakistan like countries don't have such luxury to waste own resources to order different kind of attack helicopters from various countries which costs too much for maintenance, training and logistics.

USA advantages: Having a family of Cobra series in Pakistani inventory would decrease training and maintenance costs.
Chinese advantages: Gifted 3 attack copters.
Turkish advantages: Offering gift + ToT

Z-10 training and maintenance would allow Pakistan to handle T-129 with ease since they are compareable

 

[Muhammad Omar]

So if Z-10 ticks all the boxes for PA, can we expect Z-10 instead of ATAK?

The only thing that we are not getting ATAK is cause of Americans Engine...

 

[SipahSalar]

Z-10 training and maintenance would allow Pakistan to handle T-129 with ease since they are compareable

huh?

 

[Syed Hussain]

Well, even after deducting the cost of spares, sub systems and missiles, still the per piece cost is around 40+ million. We could have got Apache's E variant in this budget.
First deal for Mi-35, then 3 units of WZ-10's for 'testing' and now of a sudden this deal, though keeping a mix of Chinese and Russian with US ones can be beneficial in many terms if the expenses could be overcome. Sensors and engines both are sophisticated stuff and specially the hingeless/bearingless rotor system which is highly reliable and efficient and has lowest maintenance requirement comparing to conventional rotor systems.
The only wish is that if we had the capacity to 'copy' like Chinese do

 

[salarsikander]

Well, even after deducting the cost of spares, sub systems and missiles, still the per piece cost is around 40+ million. We could have got Apache's E variant in this budget.
First deal for Mi-35, then 3 units of WZ-10's for 'testing' and now of a sudden this deal, though keeping a mix of Chinese and Russian with US ones can be beneficial in many terms if the expenses could be overcome. Sensors and engines both are sophisticated stuff and specially the hingeless/bearingless rotor system which is highly reliable and efficient and has lowest maintenance requirement comparing to conventional rotor systems.
The only wish is that if we had the capacity to 'copy' like Chinese do
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Hi, Would love to know how you calculated the number 40mn ? what accounting method was used ?

 

[datalibdaz]

why there are no sidewinders on the list ? Can any one tell me whether Aim 9X has been tested on these vipers?