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AH-1Z Viper, 1000 Hellfire II Missiles approved for sale to Pakistan.

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  • Crew: 2: pilot, co-pilot/gunner (CPG)
  • Capacity: 6,661 lb (3,021 kg)
  • Length: 58 ft 3 in (17.8 m)
  • Rotor diameter: 48 ft (14.6 m)
  • Height: 14 ft 4 in (4.37 m)
  • Disc area: 1,808 ft² (168.0 m²)
  • Empty weight: 12,300 lb (5,580 kg)
  • Useful load: 5,764 lb (2,620 kg)
  • Max. takeoff weight: 18,500 lb (8,390 kg)
  • Powerplant: 2 × General Electric T700-GE-401C turboshaft, 1,800 shp (1,340 kW) each
  • Rotor systems: 4 blades on main rotor, 4 blades on tail rotor
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Not your rulers.....your generals to be precise!!! Quit blaming every fukup of everyone on to the rulers. Civilians don't give out a list of weapons to buy, the military does. The least you can do when you write, is to keep some honesty in your posts!! You are obviously one of IK's propagandist, like him, you all lie shamelessly and for no reason!

And by the way, its actually a good deal if you read into all details. A Viper-Z, is hell of an advanced combat helicopter. A close match to the Apaches.
I would add that the infra structure established for the Cobras will be modified a little to accommodate the Zulus. This would make life a lot simpler for the techs plus for depot level maintenance.This plus the hell fires that come with it(1000) are simply the icing on the cake. To be honest we have not been honest with the US in the recent past either, so why blame the US if it has asked us to stick to our side of the bargain.
Araz
 
Apparently this deal was approved 5 years ago in 2010. So now it is obvious it will have no affect on Z-10 purchase.

US delivers Cobra helicopter gunships to Pakistan

Pakistan has also been assured it would receive the latest AH-1Z variant in phases by 2015, the sources added.
The AH-1 has been supplied by the US America from its Jordan Air Base stock.
The twin blade, single engined gunships have a crew of two, comprising a pilot and a co-pilot or a gunner.
 
This is a decision which should be made very carefully, in my opinion. Instead of having an orgasm over american equipment, it should be realized that we had to pay a dear price for putting our trust in americans. This is the first time in 30 to 40 years that we have a chance to milk the situation according to our needs because we have three big contenders offering us their top of the line equipment. Lets be honest these viper Z's are over kill for these Khawarji Dogs. As for india these vipers are a great option but reality is that for the next 10 to 15 years there is very little chance of us getting engaged in a full scale conflict with them and i think our strategy makers know that , so chinese option in reality is inferior to viper Z's but it gives us great opportunity to build our capabilities in the near future. So how i see is these 1 billion dollars should be put in modding the WZ-10 according to our requirements instead of being spent on a short term solution wit a lot of uncertainity in the future.
 
Apparently this deal was approved 5 years ago in 2010. So now it is obvious it will have no affect on Z-10 purchase.

US delivers Cobra helicopter gunships to Pakistan

Pakistan has also been assured it would receive the latest AH-1Z variant in phases by 2015, the sources added.
The AH-1 has been supplied by the US America from its Jordan Air Base stock.
The twin blade, single engined gunships have a crew of two, comprising a pilot and a co-pilot or a gunner.
These helicopters are coming due to General Raheel efforts and his visit to USA
 
By
DOUG CAMERON
April 6, 2015 6:12 p.m. ET

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The State Department has approved Pakistan’s request to buy almost $1 billion in U.S.-made attack helicopters, missiles and other equipment aimed at fighting insurgents in the country’s mountainous north and west regions.

U.S. defense companies are engaged in a three-way tussle with Russia and China to sell weapons to Pakistan, complicated by the need to avoid upsetting neighbor India and its even larger arms’ import market.

The Pentagon said Monday that Pakistan had requested 15 AH-1Z Viper helicopters made by the Bell arm of Textron Inc., as well as 1,000 Hellfire missiles produced by Lockheed Martin Corp. and a host of other communications and training equipment with a total value of $952 million, according to a notification to Congress, which needs to approve any sale.

Any deal would be structured as a foreign military sale between the two governments.

“This proposed sale of helicopters and weapon systems will provide Pakistan with military capabilities in support of its counterterrorism and counterinsurgency operations in South Asia,” said the Defense Security Cooperation Agency, which oversees U.S. military exports.

Write to Doug Cameron at doug.cameron@wsj.com

State Dept. Approves Pakistan Arms Request - WSJ
lol at indians...
 
pakistan will buy three types

MI-35 deal sign
cobra approved
z-10 under trail we will decide
Good point. The trials are not complete. We have already talked about an uprated engine(?WZ16Turbo shaft) and the PA may yet propose changes for best outcome. I think at best it is a work in progress and the long term replacement for our cobras. We need something to match the fire power on the other side and we have been after the Zulus for some time. So I think it is a good deal and we should take it. A question that comes to mind is will the Cobras have to be upgraded to be able to fire the hell fire and if so what changes will be required if any?
Araz
 
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Apparently this deal was approved 5 years ago in 2010. So now it is obvious it will have no affect on Z-10 purchase.

US delivers Cobra helicopter gunships to Pakistan

Pakistan has also been assured it would receive the latest AH-1Z variant in phases by 2015, the sources added.
The AH-1 has been supplied by the US America from its Jordan Air Base stock.
The twin blade, single engined gunships have a crew of two, comprising a pilot and a co-pilot or a gunner.

This news in the post above, isn't for the Viper Zulu version. The Zulu version has 4 rotor blades as it was one of the major upgrades. Essentially, Viper Zulu is a new chopper that looks like the older Cobra, but capability wise, it's a lot more than the older version. It can carry 16 ATG missiles like the Apache does with 2 sidewinders, or 8 ATG missiles, heavy rocket pods and 2 side winders.

The news above is for the older Cobras which were given to Pakistan for its war on terror. The thread is about DSCA's notification to congress which then requires 30 days for congress to either approve the sale or table it. Until then, not even a bullet can be supplied to anyone as its the law.
 
US only sold pakistan the gunship becos China can provide WZ-10 gunship. If China never sell WZ-10 to PA. US will continue sanction PA equipment. I hope Pakistan can see the true color of US.
china is a great friend
 
Good point. The trials are not complete. We have already talked about an uprated engine(?WZ16Turbo shaft) and the PA may yet propose changes for best outcome. I think at best it is a work in progress and the long term replacement for our cobras. We need something to match the fire power on the other side and we been after the Zulus for some time. So I think it is a good deal and we should take it.A question that comes to mind is will the Cobras have to be upgraded to be able to fire the hell fire and if so what changes will be required if any?
Araz

Definitely a micro milimeter wave radar.
 
This news in the post above, isn't for the Viper Zulu version. The Zulu version has 4 rotor blades as it was one of the major upgrades. Essentially, Viper Zulu is a new chopper that looks like the older Cobra, but capability wise, it's a lot more than the older version. It can carry 16 ATG missiles like the Apache does with 2 sidewinders, or 8 ATG missiles, heavy rocket pods and 2 side winders.

The news above is for the older Cobras which were given to Pakistan for its war on terror. The thread is about DSCA's notification to congress which then requires 30 days for congress to either approve the sale or table it. Until then, not even a bullet can be supplied to anyone as its the law.
You should have read the news article i posted before posting. It mentions that 14 helicopters have been delivered AND AH-1Z will be delivered in 2015. And todays news corresponds with that.
 
Hope PA gets the viper and first thing Pakistanis shall do when they gets their hand on this viper is to send it to China to allow us inspect thoroughly of this helo so that in war with US, we will know what to do with US marine corps.

US Double cross Pakistan and there is no need to be nice to Uncle Sam. To US, it's all about business.
 
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