Agnostic/Atheist on this Forum

[Chinese-Dragon]

I have no idea what happens after death the concept of reincarnation does appeal to me as it will mean my soul/atman lives on even though my body does not exist. I was thinking the other day perhaps we are put here on earth by advanced beings as some sort of experiment which they are monitoring it is not scientific that we are alone in the universe heck we do not even have the tech to go out of our solar system just think how many planets like our earth there might be.

I like the idea of reincarnation. It goes perfectly with the natural cycle.

The idea of reincarnation is common to all Eastern religions (i.e. non-Abrahamic religions).

Though I am an Atheist so I don't believe in it literally.

 

[Yeti]

I like the idea of reincarnation. It goes perfectly with the natural cycle.

The idea of reincarnation is common to all Eastern religions (i.e. non-Abrahamic religions).

Though I am an Atheist so I don't believe in it literally.

Intresting thing about reincarnation which some people in the west do not understand is that the earth is not the only planet you maybe born into there is higher planets too with advanced beings which you can be born into, from a 'Hindu' view the earth is known as a material world not a spiritual world.

 

[Skull and Bones]

I think that is a pro for believers as it gives them peace of mind - I have always been envious of that aspect being an agnostic myself when I struggle to see light at the end of the tunnel.

Does it make you feel good that your destiny has been written and you have no control over it, no matter how much effort you put in?

 

[KRAIT]

Religion has killed more humans than any disease. So i find atheism as a cure for that.
And TBH, if there's a God, he can't be that dumb to let so much chaos in the society as it is today. So this means only one thing, there isn't anything like God.
Only thing i worship is consciousness.

Religion is not the cause of war. Man made religion a cause of war. Understand the difference. Religion is just an easy excuse used by men for committing many crimes.

Its like saying Nietzsche's words were cause of Hitler's killing. It was Hitler's misinterpretation of his words that all men are not equal.

 

[Hellraiser007]

The sense of nothingness is my fear just darkness after death is what i'm scared of.

After death your mind stops functioning there is no suffering or pleasure what is so scary about it.

 

[KRAIT]

Holocaust against the Jews?

It wasn't religious. Hitler considered Jews as reason for defeat of Germany in WW 1 and blamed Jews for poor state of Germany post WW 1.

 

[Skull and Bones]

Religion is not the cause of war. Man made religion a cause of war. Understand the difference. Religion is just an easy excuse for committing many crimes.

Its like saying Nietzsche's words were cause of Hitler's killing. It was Hitler's misinterpretation of his words that all men are not equal.

Every religion is man made, because the image of God is only perceived by humans.

It wasn't religious. Hitler considered Jews as reason for defeat of Germany in WW 1 and blamed Jews for poor state of Germany post WW 1.

And he generalized a whole religion for that treachery, not individual beings?

 

[Cherokee]

I am Happy to Finally Create a Thread which is going on without Trolling .

Rare these days on Defence.pk

Every religion is man made, because the image of God is only perceived by humans.



And he generalized a whole religion for that treachery, not individual beings?

Yep .......

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

It wasn't religious. Hitler considered Jews as reason for defeat of Germany in WW 1 and blamed Jews for poor state of Germany post WW 1.

Maybe it wasn't religious (who knows really), but Hitler certainly painted it that way.

Religious views of Adolf Hitler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He created a movement known as Positive Christianity and mentioned God and Christ in most of his speeches.

And he specifically mentioned the religion of the Jews as the reason he considered them to be a problem. Most of the quotes in the article are from Mein Kampf and his various speeches.

 

[KRAIT]

Every religion is man made, because the image of God is only perceived by humans.
And he generalized a whole religion for that treachery, not individual beings?

Agreed. Religion was made by good men to give proper code of conduct to their coming generations. Its the misinterpretation of religion by few which resulted in wars. How is that there are both good and bad people which follow same religion ? Its human nature to blame than the religion.

A highly religious person can be tyrant or a saint. Its the character and action of man that him good or bad. Not religion.

 

[Yeti]

After death your mind stops functioning there is no suffering or pleasure what is so scary about it.

After death there is no feeling at all but my fear is of now when I am living that if there is nothingness and just darkness what is the meaning of life? why do we exist? I find myself asking all these questions. I guess it is human nature we need reassurance that there is somebody looking over us and protecting us like a 'God' perhaps I am selfish to even think this but it is hard for me not to. The idea of never seeing my loved ones after they departed the world scares the **** out of me it is comfort factor that when I die perhaps I might be reunited with my loved ones but knowing my luck I will end in hell anyway lol

 

[Cherokee]

Agreed. Religion was made by good men to give proper code of conduct to their coming generations. Its the misinterpretation of religion by few which resulted in wars. How is that there are both good and bad people which follow same religion ? Its human nature to blame than the religion.

A highly religious person can be tyrant or a saint. Its the character and action of man that him good or bad. Not religion.

Agreed , But to you think we need religion now . I mean yes people in older days were savages so needed code of conduct . Now We dont Need that . Any person will help a old women et all regardless of religion .

 

[Skull and Bones]

Agreed. Religion was made by good men to give proper code of conduct to their coming generations. Its the misinterpretation of religion by few which resulted in wars. How is that there are both good and bad people which follow same religion ? Its human nature to blame than the religion.

A highly religious person can be tyrant or a saint. Its the character and action of man that him good or bad. Not religion.

See my very first few points, where i said religion is very basic concept to led people to live a standard pious way of life, in which it failed miserably.

So i worship my consciousness, believing that it'll give me power to differentiate Good from Bad.

 

[KRAIT]

Maybe it wasn't religious (who knows really), but Hitler certainly painted it that way.
Religious views of Adolf Hitler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
He created a movement known as Positive Christianity and mentioned God and Christ in most of his speeches.
And he specifically mentioned the religion of the Jews as the reason he considered them to be a problem. Most of the quotes in the article are from Mein Kampf and his various speeches.

Sir, Kindly read influencing factors that changed Hitler. He considered religion responsible, so how is religion responsible for Holocaust. Isn't Hitler's misconception about Judaism and his version of Christianity the reason.

Again, note that it was Hitler's decision and thought process that made him to commit those crimes. We can't blame Judaism just because a person hated that religion.

 

[Hellraiser007]

After death there is no feeling at all but my fear is of now when I am living that if there is nothingness and just darkness what is the meaning of life? why do we exist? I find myself asking all these questions. I guess it is human nature we need reassurance that there is somebody looking over us and protecting us like a 'God' perhaps I am selfish to even think this but it is hard for me not to. The idea of never seeing my loved ones after they departed the world scares the **** out of me it is comfort factor that when I die perhaps I might be reunited with my loved ones but knowing my luck I will end in hell anyway lol

I believe in "principle of Karma" if you do good to people it will be returned to you 10 times. So my Karma will take care of me.

For People like you it is better to believe some one superior will take care of you and say such power exists and guides us. AS per my understanding The Concept of GOD is there to make Humans secure and cross the bridge in difficulties thinking some is there to help you and he is universal.

The spirits thing you are talking about needs some research as many have witnessed this phenomenon.