Agartala Conspiracy confession, what does it mean for our history

[Zabaniyah]

Looks like you did not see my disclaimer.

Well, you did say that you don't know if Mujib was right or wrong right from the start. For all that's worth, nobody really knows for sure about what went on for Mujib and his lackeys as far as Agartala goes.

 

[shiv]

mujib drank some exotic tripura tea and went on to liberate country from clutches of the beacon of Islam

 

[kalu_miah]

The man who broke Pakistan and created Bangladesh: Serazul Alam Khan

While SAK started his "Nucleus" with Abdur Razzak and Kazi Aref in 1962, there was another man who never accepted the idea of Pakistan, as Abdur Razzak describes in the videos in following posts. Sheikh Mujibur Rahman moved to East Pakistan soon after Partition and he started dreaming of making the Eastern wing independent. It was Mujib who sent out his agent Sutar to Kolkata and asked him to stay there and keep in touch with Indian govt. just in case any help is needed from them. So Mujib was secretly in touch with Indian govt. all along. The SAK lead socialist group "Nucleus" was active separately and secretly although they joined Awami League quite early. They informed Mujib about this secret "Nucleus" in 1969. When they were making rounds with many prominent politicians with the idea of making East Pakistan independent, none gave them much heed or agreed with their outlandish plan. Only Mujib due to his earlier dream agreed to bring them under his wing and let them work towards their common goal, but making sure that this connection with Mujib not revealed. And yes Agartala conspiracy was 100% true, Mujib was trying to break Pakistan with India's help all along.

After 25th March 1971, when the civil war broke out in then East Pakistan, all Awami leaders were instructed to go to Sutar (by then a fully established RAW agent) to an address in Kolkata that Mujib gave them. Tajuddin did not follow that instruction but went directly to Delhi instead. For a few days Indira Gandhi did not meet with him till she got confirmation from Sutar that Tajuddin indeed was the leader designated by Mujib. Also due to Mujib's instruction and plan, Mujib Bahini was created with the then SAK team of 4:
Serajul Alam Khan
Tofael Ahmed
Abdur Razzak and
Sheikh Fazlul Haq Mani

Mujib Bahini vs Mukti Bahini

cross posted:

Chittaranjan Sutar | RAW sanctuaries | ZoomInfo.com

The DIB also knew that Chittaranjan Sutar and Kalidas Baidya, who were both Pakistani citizens, had a connection with this secret organization.
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The key RAW figure at these meetings was undoubtedlyChittaranjan Sutar, who had been appointed Sheikh Mujib'srepresentative in India and had direct access to the Indian Prime Minister and other senior officials of the government.He was later assigned the important task of makingBangladesh a part of India of which the Mujib Bahini may come to have played a crucial role until events escalated out of their control in 1975.
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Since his arrival in India Sheikh Moni had developed a good working relationship with RAW, the Indian intelligence service, through Chittaranjan Sutar.
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Sutar's importance to Indian designs, of which the Mujib Bahini were to play an important part, were revealed in an interview of Humayan Rashed Chowdhury, a former diplomat to the UN and India and a former speaker of Parliament, where it had been disclosed to him that Chittaranjan Sutarhad been instructed by Indira Gandhi on 28 December, 1971 to make Bangladesh a part of India (Masudul Haq pg.
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In the first chapter of the book, 'Our Work Begins in Dhaka' we are told that the author, Chittaranjan Sutar and Nirod Majumder entered Dhaka at the end of 1951. As we already know from 'Sheikh Mujib Triumph and Tragedy' (2005)Chittaranjan Sutar was a RAW operative and so the author unwittingly discloses his own identity as a RAW agent.
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It was, however, long before the 1964 Kolkata riots thatChittaranjan Sutar (Chittababu) and Kalidas gave Sheikh Mujib the assurance that all the Hindu's of East Bengal would accept him as their leader and under him support the movement for self-rule of 'East Bengal'.
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S.A. Karim in his book phrases it slightly differently, 'Sheikh Mujib Triumph and Tragedy' (2005), "He [Chittaranjan Sutar] was a Hindu Awami Leaguer from Barisal who had been asked by Mujib in the late 1960's to settle in Kolkata in maintain contact with the Indian authorities in case any help was needed from them."
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S.A. Karim in his book phrases it slightly differently, 'Sheikh Mujib Triumph and Tragedy' (2005), "He [Chittaranjan Sutar] was a Hindu Awami Leaguer from Barisal who had been asked by Mujib in the late 1960's to settle in Kolkata in maintain contact with the Indian authorities the date October 1971 in his book 'The Chittagong Hill Tracts: A Victim of Indian interference' (2003) on page 117 but it is not clear where he got this information.

 

[asad71]

@
kalu_miah,
[URL='https://defence.pk/members/loki.38840/']Loki
[/URL]

Kindly see this.

 

[kalu_miah]

@
kalu_miah,
Loki

Kindly see this.

This statement conclusively proves that 3 million was a mistaken quote, and 300,000 figure was what was told to Mujib.

 

[asad71]

This statement conclusively proves that 3 million was a mistaken quote, and 300,000 figure was what was told to Mujib.

 

[Cold Blood]

@kalu_miah bro, we should now forget the past and look forward to remove the differences. Pakistan's leaders were incapable or rather reluctant to solve the major issues between the two wings and the opportunists utilized the situation pretty well. Moreover, it was an impractical decision to merge two different geographical regions to form the new country.

 

[asad71]

@kalu_miah bro, we should now forget the past and look forward to remove the differences. Pakistan's leaders were incapable or rather reluctant to solve the major issues between the two wings and the opportunists utilized the situation pretty well. Moreover, it was an impractical decision to merge two different geographical regions to form the new country.

Without a cooperation/understanding between the Muslims of the Indus valley and the Muslims of the Brahmaputra-Gangetic delta, it will be a matter of time before the Ummat'e Muhammadi are wiped out of SA.

 

[Cold Blood]

Without a cooperation/understanding between the Muslims of the Indus valley and the Muslims of the Brahmaputra-Gangetic delta, it will be a matter of time before the Ummat'e Muhammadi are wiped out of SA.

Cooperation is always needed, but its not possible to wipe out this vast Muslim population from South Asia. Moreover, Islam has its own unique characteristics that creates the fervor among humans. Islam will continue to grow in South Asia as it's been growing for the past 1400 years.

 

[kalu_miah]

@kalu_miah bro, we should now forget the past and look forward to remove the differences. Pakistan's leaders were incapable or rather reluctant to solve the major issues between the two wings and the opportunists utilized the situation pretty well. Moreover, it was an impractical decision to merge two different geographical regions to form the new country.

I appreciate your sentiment, welcome to the forum by the way.

The issue is a little more complex than you stated. We cannot forget the past, because the traitors that were plotting behind the back of our people and manipulated our people, on an Indo-Soviet expansionist agenda, are still active, in fact they are killing people of opposition as we speak. So in my opinion, the more we dig out the past, the more we inform the people, the better our people will be able to understand how they were manipulated.

Of course it would have been better off to have separate countries to begin with, but that was not the sentiment back then, it was an overwhelming sentiment of unity for all South Asian Muslims, but sleeper cells became active to change all that, blinded by their arrogance that they have all the answers as they believed in some ideology. Little did they see that these people like Serajul Alam Khan, his Nucleus team and Sheikh Mujib, all were useful idiots and pawns in the geopolitical chess board for Indian expansionism, which is the mirror image of Soviet or earlier Imperial Tsarist expansionism. Ideology was used as a cover for their expansionist goal. The Chinese understood it and vehemently opposed it, but most of our leaders were clueless to understand what they were doing to our people.

The other thing is, if there was no plotting by this Nucleus from 1962 and Mujib since he created Awami League together with Hindu members of East Pakistan congress, if there was no India hand in all this, we could always peacefully separate from West wing in course of time. The civil war, the resulting killing of estimated 300,000 people (both Bengali and non-Bengali) created a permanent scar between:
- Bengali Muslims
- non-Bengali Muslims
of South Asia.

This was the Indo-Soviet plan to weaken Muslims of South Asia, their eternal enemy.

So today we stand as a weak vulnerable country, which is now infiltrated fully and being controlled by Indian intelligence. Stick around this forum and see if all Bangladeshi's here can discuss how we can get out of this situation.

 

[asad71]

Cooperation is always needed, but its not possible to wipe out this vast Muslim population from South Asia. Moreover, Islam has its own unique characteristics that creates the fervor among humans. Islam will continue to grow in South Asia as it's been growing for the past 1400 years.

1.These are the sentiments of all Muslims. We have the capacity to rise from the ashes/Karabala. However, we MUST NOT forget al Andalusia.
2. In SA Hindu extremism received latitude during Akbar's reign. We see a visible rise with the rise of Sivaji. The Brahmin priests had conspired with the English Co for the debacle at Palassy, 23 June 1757. Then we saw the Hindus, barring few patriots, allying with the English during the 1857 revolt. Post-partition the attitude of the Hindus came out in the open. Thereafter we have seen an endless chain of anti-Muslim riots.Put all these in a mosaic and our situation does not appear happy.Jinnah, Suhrowardy and the founding fathers of Pakistan were not fools to enunciate The Two Nation Theory.Not only in India itself but in Kashmir, Assam, Arakan and SL we see the slaughter of Muslims continuing.
3. The Hindu pogrom of ethic cleansing is real. Let us beware.

 

[Cold Blood]

I appreciate your sentiment, welcome to the forum by the way.

The issue is a little more complex than you stated. We cannot forget the past, because the traitors that were plotting behind the back of our people and manipulated our people, on an Indo-Soviet expansionist agenda, are still active, in fact they are killing people of opposition as we speak. So in my opinion, the more we dig out the past, the more we inform the people, the better our people will be able to understand how they were manipulated.

Of course it would have been better off to have separate countries to begin with, but that was not the sentiment back then, it was an overwhelming sentiment of unity for all South Asian Muslims, but sleeper cells became active to change all that, blinded by their arrogance that they have all the answers as they believed in some ideology. Little did they see that these people like Serajul Alam Khan, his Nucleus team and Sheikh Mujib, all were useful idiots and pawns in the geopolitical chess board for Indian expansionism, which is the mirror image of Soviet or earlier Imperial Tsarist expansionism. Ideology was used as a cover for their expansionist goal. The Chinese understood it and vehemently opposed it, but most of our leaders were clueless to understand what they were doing to our people.

The other thing is, if there was no plotting by this Nucleus from 1962 and Mujib since he created Awami League together with Hindu members of East Pakistan congress, if there was no India hand in all this, we could always peacefully separate from West wing in course of time. The civil war, the resulting killing of estimated 300,000 people (both Bengali and non-Bengali) created a permanent scar between:
- Bengali Muslims
- non-Bengali Muslims
of South Asia.

This was the Indo-Soviet plan to weaken Muslims of South Asia, their eternal enemy.

So today we stand as a weak vulnerable country, which is now infiltrated fully and being controlled by Indian intelligence. Stick around this forum and see if all Bangladeshi's here can discuss how we can get out of this situation.

Thank You for welcoming me.

Yes, I agree that the outsiders exploited the situation, but why did you let the situation to develop like that in the first place? A wall will never broke if you don't let the cracks to develop. If there was no discriminations to the East Pakistanis, had India been able to exploit the situation?

 

[the just]

Thank You for welcoming me.

Yes, I agree that the outsiders exploited the situation, but why did you let the situation to develop like that in the first place? A wall will never broke if you don't let the cracks to develop. If there was no discriminations to the East Pakistanis, had India been able to exploit the situation?

True.the problem was there,and in some cases really prejudiced against bangalis.Starting from Army,hospitals, schools ,government jobs .you name it.discrimination against bangalis were getting out of hand by mid 60s.
There is nothing to claim that the situations would have improved. At the same time educated bangalis was divided into two groups. Each had their own reason to support their own cause.
The path of history shows that eventually we would have separated. But that does not give certain people right to exploit the uneducated mass .

 

[kalu_miah]

Thank You for welcoming me.

Yes, I agree that the outsiders exploited the situation, but why did you let the situation to develop like that in the first place? A wall will never broke if you don't let the cracks to develop. If there was no discriminations to the East Pakistanis, had India been able to exploit the situation?

There were faults from all sides, but there is an order of magnitude difference between nepotism, favoritism, discrimination and premeditated plotting and treason to break up a country, that was just formed few years earlier, as a result of the hope and aspiration of both wings.

From the video descriptions in the thread below:
The man who broke Pakistan and created Bangladesh: Serazul Alam Khan
it is possible that Mujib came up with this dream of an independent country quite early. It is possible that when the idea of United (independent) Bengal spearheaded by Suhrawardy was not accepted by Hindu Bengali's, the idea remained as the seed of a future independent East Bengal in Mujib's mind. I think he was a cunning man who operated in a way that he could not be directly caught in early stages. When ISI caught him finally, he already became much too popular and had enough followers and supporters, so it was no longer feasible to hang him or shoot him at a firing squad. He had also been instigating Bengali bureaucrats, army officers and other professionals (from early 1960's ?) with his idea of independence.

As we get some hints of the time line, what we need to find out are:
- at what point did IB (India's Intelligence Branch, RAW was formed in 1968 as an off shoot of IB) recruited Sutar, Nirod Majumdar and Kalidas Baidya?
- at what point did IB establish contact with Mujib, via one or more of the above 3 people

Once we get definite answers to the above two questions, we will be able to draw a conclusion about Mujib's idea of independent East Bengal and whether it was there even as early as 1947, when he left Kolkata after Partition and joined Dhaka University.

If the above can be established then everything else falls into place. Language movement and all other movements of Awami League can be understood and explained in one light, smaller parts of a much bigger master plan to break up the country. Essentially SAK led Nucleus (communist/socialist) formed in 1962 and Mujib led Awami League, both of these groups either were fully in touch with India from the beginning, or they unknowingly worked as useful idiots of Indo-Soviet expansionist plan. Mujib definitely got in touch with Sutar, and Sutar returned home from Kolkata to East Bengal, probably as an IB agent or became an IB agent at a later point.

SAK led socialist/communist Nucleus formed in 1962, I believe they were in touch with Soviets. In 1969, both of these separate teams came together and started working together from that point on.

If Mujib had this dream since 1971, then it would naturally follow that he and his team and party would run full time propaganda with help of already established Hindu journalists to brainwash our masses to blow out of proportion the discrimination they faced from non-Bengali Pakistani's and start to give them the idea that making the country independent by hook or by crook, would solve all their problems and make the independent entity a prosperous developed heaven, Sonar Bangla.

During all these Indo-Soviet machinations, the Chinese were the only people that stands out as a people who were vehemently opposed to these Indo-Soviet imperialist and expansionist ideas to break a country apart. They did try to influence events through the pro-China communists in then East Pakistan to prevent the break up as a well wisher of both wings, but their efforts did not succeed.

@asad71 @Akmal

 

[Skallagrim]

@kalu_miah, five of the accused admit of their involvement in the conspiracy.

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