After Turkey’s decision to Side with Qatar, Kurds express willingness to cooperate with Saudi Arabia

[xenon54 out]

Man they are being used by everyone who has beef with Turkey no?
Like a..... well, you know what.....

 

[KediKesenFare3]

Come on man dont make me laugh. You found a few posts which I didnt even look into because in the past few months you made threads and posts against iran and then suddenly you change stances. Atleast have spine and admit it. Say that you are controlled by erdo and dont have your own thoughts just admit it.

In the referandum if erdo said no presidential system is bad two days before 99% of the sheeps will say ok its bad. They dont have a brain of themselves, this is the truth, you know it and I know it.

The day Erdoğan supports same-sex marriage, 50% female quota for every state institution and officially recognises Cem evleri as a place of worship, I will proudly announce that I wholeheartedly share his worldview. However, in these days we unfortunately don't have a better option than AKP.

 

[mangekyo]

There is rivalry between Turkey and Iran regarding Syria and Iraq. No one can deny this fact but on the other hand you won't see a blind and hateful enmity between Turks and Iranians like in the Saudi-Iranian relationship. We still somehow respect each other. There is a reason why the Iranian-Turkish border is unchanged since centuries.

When it comes to Hamas, MB and Egypt our positions aren't that much different. This is also a part of the truth.

I've never been anti-Iranian like the Wahabi filth:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/gallery-iran-iraq-war.225633/page-37#post-7907209
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/uelke-yoenetimi.475047/page-5#post-9190377
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/iran...-robot-dubbed-surena-iii.408735/#post-7889634
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/feeling-sorry-for-iran-not-me.498272/page-3#post-9520396

Like Atatürk I am not a Turanist or a member of any other irredentist movement.

Plus, İ am not going to deny the fact that Persians are basically our closest relatives in the ME.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turko-Persian_tradition

We have more in common with them than with Arabians or any other non-Turkic ethnicity.

So, I have a pragmatic, realistic and scientific approach towards Iran unlike racist and radical people. Deal with it.

Lol, go see Facebook posts and YouTube videos of the terror attack, 99% of them have commented stuff like "I hope it happens again" "too few died" "wish more had died"

 

[SouI]

an alliance between Turkey - Iran - Russia would mean the end of American fingers in the muslim world. Too bad Turkey and Iran can never be true allies.

Why not?

 

[KediKesenFare3]

Lol, go see Facebook posts and YouTube videos of the terror attack, 99% of them have commented stuff like "I hope it happens again" "too few died" "wish more had died"

Keyboard warriors + internet. What do you expect?

 

[bsruzm]

@Arabi I am afraid that you may find yourself in a very unlucky situation.

 

[idune]

In the latter case, despite committing troops for the defence of Saudi Arabia, we made it clear that we will not engage with Iraqi forces unless the sovereignty of the KSA is threatened.

That was in 90s and Saudis were in receiving end. In 2017, Saudis are aggressor ( Bahrain, Yemen) and using clear cut terrorism (Syria, Libya) and promoting sectarian strife. With aggression and use of terrorism, Saudis are and will invite reaction/blow back and act of self defense from other countries to itself and against its sovereignty. So, pertaining question is if "the sovereignty of the KSA is threatened" doctrine can be applied same way when Saudi Arab is the aggressor????

Pakistan and all other Muslim countries sensitive to the Holy Places and pledged protection of Saudi Arab BUT Saudi rulers are using that as an insurance policy (one of them) to conduct aggression and terrorism.

What Pakistan and other Muslim countries need to do is change the pledge - protect Islam Holiest Places from any one who attack the Holy places, endanger existence of the Holy Places or undermine sanctity of the Holy Places; be that outsiders or Saudis themselves.

Saudis using Islam Holiest Places as insurance policy for its aggression and terror should stop. Otherwise, Pakistan, Turkey or other Muslim countries will unnecessarily pay price for Saudi role as aggressor.

 

[tesla]

Why Qatar is being demonised by gcc+egypt+ few arab country
is it fear? any idea

 

[Glass]

there are a lot of rumors i mean qatar supporting terrorism yes they do that but so does saudi arabia. I think the most plausible reasons are money shortage and support for MB

 

[Avicenna]

That was in 90s and Saudis were in receiving end. In 2017, Saudis are aggressor ( Bahrain, Yemen) and using clear cut terrorism (Syria, Libya) and promoting sectarian strife. With aggression and use of terrorism, Saudis are and will invite reaction/blow back and act of self defense from other countries to itself and against its sovereignty. So, pertaining question is if "the sovereignty of the KSA is threatened" doctrine can be applied same way when Saudi Arab is the aggressor????

Pakistan and all other Muslim countries sensitive to the Holy Places and pledged protection of Saudi Arab BUT Saudi rulers are using that as an insurance policy (one of them) to conduct aggression and terrorism.

What Pakistan and other Muslim countries need to do is change the pledge - protect Islam Holiest Places from any one who attack the Holy places, endanger existence of the Holy Places or undermine sanctity of the Holy Places; be that outsiders or Saudis themselves.

Saudis using Islam Holiest Places as insurance policy for its aggression and terror should stop. Otherwise, Pakistan, Turkey or other Muslim countries will unnecessarily pay price for Saudi role as aggressor.

Exactly, and this is why I find it so repulsive. Using religious sentiments of well meaning muslims and Muslim majority states as an insurance policy to further Saudi national interests.

 

[Zhukov]

Most of the countries of the world get their Oil & Gas from middle east. What's so special about China?



Cultural relations with Turkiye are okay but money always talks

1) RS is leading Saudi conceived Islamic MIlitary Alliance

2) Saudi provide jobs to Pakistanis

3) Saudi invest in Pakistan is greater than Turkiye or Iran

4) Saudis funded Pakistan military and nuclear programs

5) Both US & China are supporting Saudi led alliance


With all these above, Do you think Turkiye or Iran would trust Pakistan?



That is what I read too but @PaklovesTurkiye confirmed that RS leaving IMA is just a propaganda by enemies of Pakistan.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/will...-by-ahmed-quraishi.499413/page-5#post-9543973

So You are quoting Ahmad Qureshi on Saudia Related matters? Come on Bro

Raheel sharif is not a Serving Pak Army Officer Plus The IMA that Raheel sharif is leading Qatar and Turkey are its members too its not a Private Saudi Militia. Dont Over Simplify things. Its a forum against Terrorism of which 34 countries are members dont be a fool.
Yes Saudia is an ally but it also provides job to indians as well. Plus Pakistan bluntly refused to participate in Yemen conflict on Saudi bid.
What proof do you have that saudia funded Pakistan Nuclear Program except crackpot mullahs who want to glorify Saudia every now and then? And what do you mean by Fund Pakistani Military? When did that happened? Only Assistance Pakistan gets is from USA or in the form of Soft Loans from China and USA.
And i repeat again. Don't mix Saudi Led Alliance with this Qatar Rivalry. Qatar also supports Saudi Led alliance so does Turkey so does Pakistan. This issue will be resolved.
And Wet Dreams of Some people will never be formalized that Pakistan will be pushed away from its long standing Allies

 

[Rajputra]

I hope oil prices stay low, I don't want to pay more to fill tank of my bike.

 

[Zhukov]

I hope oil prices stay low, I don't want to pay more to fill tank of my bike.

Idhar Jang lagney ko phir rai. Sab Sulah karwa rahey ke Mat Laro
Tum Indians ko Apne Fuel ki Pari hui.

 

[Rajputra]

Idhar Jang lagney ko phir rai. Sab Sulah karwa rahey ke Mat Laro
Tum Indians ko Apne Fuel ki Pari hui.

None of our business dude. we are not going to pocket our nose where is don't belong.

Arabs, kurds and Turks are fee to cut eachothers "gardan" with "Talwars" and "khanjars", only thing matters to us is low fuel prices, As we don't have any oil reserves. So please keep supplying us that sweet sweet black Juice.

Our Nation, our people and our National Interest comes first for us. We dont belive in any bhai bhai thing after 1962. Trust me, You will learn the lesson hard way, like we did.

 

[EmeraldRabbit]

What can turkey and Iran offer to Russia?

A buffer zone, a region of influence. Why do you think NATO hasnt pulled out of Turkey yet (besides it requiring a quite an effort)?

Turkey holds immense strategic importance in terms of its location and who it chooses to ally itself with (Western Bloc or Russian Bloc)

Iran itself is formidable enough that no one can challenge them yet without wasting alot of money (just look how long it took to overcome Iraq's defenses and regime).
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Ontopic: Not many news agencies are reporting this except for aranews (?) and hareetz (israeli source).

There has been no official stance from the Saudi government, however given how Saudi twitter bots (who ofcourse are operating at the governments behest) have already revealed their stance, its basically indirect aggressive posturing towards Turkey.