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After putting off US envoy, Pakistan hosts top Chinese official

Learning and having experience are two different things. You may learn something but wont know it till you have experienced it, in your case it was the squeezing effect which you so promptly acclaimed about Pakistan.
Coming to the topic we are well aware of our limitations and also the capability of our adversary. So far its the US who seems to be in damage control mode, not Pakistan.
Do you think that dumping US in favour of China will be beneficial for Pakistan ?

If US is in damage control mode then shouldn't Pakistan give US a second chance and mend the ties ?

Has China ever financially helped any nation in the past ?
 
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First Pakistan should strive for a regional consensus about a solution in Afghanistan with countries like China Russia and Iran. And then Pakistan should take that position when dealing with USA. So it will be apparent to US that Pakistan's position isn't just the desire of Pakistan but also the whole region.
You've got it backwards. The message here is that Pakistan doesn't have an independent opinion of its own but defers to Chinese wishes, which it will then express as "Pakistan's". Otherwise, Pakistan would not have requested a delay in meeting the U.S. envoy.

While U.S. diplomats have their faults I'm pretty sure they recognize this and will now quietly discuss Afghan matters with the Chinese, secure in the knowledge that once China changes its mind, Pakistan will follow.
 
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God for Us Pakistani's Is themselves digging there Diplomatic graves

What benefit Pakistan ever had by building diplomatic relations with US?
Have they paid transit fee ? or have they ever snubbed Indians over Kashmir killings?
Only foreign office, politicians and some elements of media get benefits from US. Only their earnings are in jeopardy!
 
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What benefit Pakistan ever had by building diplomatic relations with US?
Have they paid transit fee ? or have they ever snubbed Indians over Kashmir killings?
Only foreign office, politicians and some elements of media get benefits from US. Only their earnings are in jeopardy!
Do you really think Creating animosity is good for Pakistan diplomatically With World Sole Super power
With Trump On power It Can have negative Impacts To your all Achievements against fighting WOT

Any smart Diplomat Will tell you Keep the threads Hanging And Give them lollipop

Learn From Us in this regard Never chose Sides Create opportunities and Profit for yourself With every one including your enemy
 
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Do you really think Creating animosity is good for Pakistan diplomatically With World Sole Super power
With Trump On power It Can have negative Impacts To your all Achievements against fighting WOT

Any smart Diplomat Will tell you Keep the threads Hanging And Give them lollipop

Learn From Us in this regard Never chose Sides Create opportunities and Profit for yourself With every one including your enemy

Engaging with US diplomats means waste of time and money for Pakistan.
Its more productive, if our foreign office break rocks, somewhere at CPEC route, rather than engaging with US diplomats.
Musharraf allowed US to invade Afghanistan, and they back stabbed him.
I think our 70 years of experience with US relations is enough to conclude, where should we be spending our energy and resources.
Americans better pack-up from Islamabad. They can never gain any respect any more, neither they want any.
There objective is destruction of Pakistan with support of RAW. For Pakistan it makes sense if they keep US far away from its boundaries.
 
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Do you think that dumping US in favour of China will be beneficial for Pakistan ?

If US is in damage control mode then shouldn't Pakistan give US a second chance and mend the ties ?

Has China ever financially helped any nation in the past ?

All major industry is built with Chinese help and ToT whereas US only provided sanctionable goods only.
 
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First Pakistan should strive for a regional consensus about a solution in Afghanistan with countries like China Russia and Iran. And then Pakistan should take that position when dealing with USA. So it will be apparent to US that Pakistan's position isn't just the desire of Pakistan but also the whole region.

Golden words. Smart Pakistani diplomacy should not find it too hard--all these countries have been targeted by America and all these countries can't ignore the American presence in Afghanistan.

According to NYTimes, even Iran is quietly funding the Talibans in Afghanistan.

Well... no permanent friends or enemies but only permanent interests.
 
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:pakistan: :china:

China has in the past and continues to prove that it is Pakistan's true and natural ally.

Whilst the USA continues to prove that it should never be trusted.
 
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What benefit Pakistan ever had by building diplomatic relations with US?
Have they paid transit fee ? or have they ever snubbed Indians over Kashmir killings?
Only foreign office, politicians and some elements of media get benefits from US. Only their earnings are in jeopardy!

Pakistan has received lots of goodies in the past. The fact it did not trickle down to the masses is a function of your government. The interactions with China will turn the same way unless the priorities of Pakistani state does not change.
 
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Pakistan will soon realize how different the two partners are :lol:

While the earlier one has given her security and luxuries of life

This one will squeeze her so bad and make a Venezuela out of her :p:

And you think anyone will appreciate your unsolicited opinion here?

Go back to your a cent per day Call-Center job and scam Americans.
 
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security lol you are really making fun of yourselves by posting like this, 50,000 martyed becoz of usa. Aaah, if indians are getting jealous we must be doing it right simple.
Some of them are made from a special clay carefully collected from the bottom of the Ganges mixed with things (that I not feel appropriate for this forum) while leaving off some essential human characteristics of self-respect, dignity, honesty, etc..

First Pakistan should strive for a regional consensus about a solution in Afghanistan with countries like China Russia and Iran. And then Pakistan should take that position when dealing with USA. So it will be apparent to US that Pakistan's position isn't just the desire of Pakistan but also the whole region.
I think the three all the three countries you mentioned are already onboard and all of them have clearly showed their support with Pakistan and registered their dissent and condemnation of US policy. Iran has went on to say that USA policies are destabilising the region. But I agree that Pakistan should launch a diplomatic effort to take these and other friendly countries onboard.
Thus if Trump wants to forge ahead with his combo of arrogance and ignorance, a tough time lies ahead for him.

You've got it backwards. The message here is that Pakistan doesn't have an independent opinion of its own but defers to Chinese wishes, which it will then express as "Pakistan's". Otherwise, Pakistan would not have requested a delay in meeting the U.S. envoy.

While U.S. diplomats have their faults I'm pretty sure they recognize this and will now quietly discuss Afghan matters with the Chinese, secure in the knowledge that once China changes its mind, Pakistan will follow.
Next time you read the articles, try to read it not upside down.
 
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First Pakistan should strive for a regional consensus about a solution in Afghanistan with countries like China Russia and Iran. And then Pakistan should take that position when dealing with USA. So it will be apparent to US that Pakistan's position isn't just the desire of Pakistan but also the whole region.

that is actually a good suggestion. but even before that Pakistan should show that they have given up terrorism harbors - this can be done easily by just three simple steps:dismantle haqqani nw, jail hafees saeed and make nice with India.
 
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