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Islam is beginning to go mainstream among White Americans.
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vo waali batein krna allowed hi ni hai idharBhai tu nai baat karni hai ya nahi
Yeh decide kar lai pehlai
vo waali batein krna allowed hi ni hai idhar
aaj kl fertile ground ho gyaTo bas phir sukoon sai beth
You have no point. Black stone was stolen by a tribe from East Arabia for several years over a thousand years ago. Yet, that did not stop Hajj and Umrah. Obviously, the stone is not worshiped. People follow a tradition to kiss it. The Prophet kissed it. I believe every Prophet who visited the site kissed it, from Adam [as] onward. It is also a cornerstone marker that helps keep track of the number of circumbulations.
No idol worship happens in Makkah
Now go whine about muhajirs. This is not your line of expertise
He misused verses of Quran. You know nothing just like that munkar e hadeeth deviant you quoted and you shouldn't be talking about stuff that you nothing about
Kissing is not worshipping. Only a chutya would say something like that
Almost every other so called liberal secularist on PDF is a murtad in disguiseNobody bows down to any idol in Makkah
@villageidiot PDF has a very high per capita presence of chutyas. That is for sure
And was not worshipped. It was never a deity.
Idol worship is idol worship. Just because your idol does not resemble a human, does not stop it from being an idol.
Any true Muslim would denounce this ideoltry and go back to the teachings of the Quran.
Yes it does. Bringing Muhajirs into the discussion isn't going to help your argument.
As another poster has written, monotheism is purely mental, but humans need a physical material object to focus on.
Otherwise ancient Greeks were not idol worshipers.
Almost every other so called liberal secularist on PDF is a murtad in disguise
The Saudis did it to Prophet Muhammed's home rather than tuning it into a museum but did not do the same to the Kabaa.
You know why? Because the Kabaa is the idol that generates lots of revenue from millions of annual pilgrims. The Saudi economy is becoming more and more reliant on it.
The hypocrisy of it.
I am not an athiest. But better to be an atheist than an idol worshiper; especially one who condemns other people's idols but defends his own.
What i'd like to see them doing is breaking those idols in Mecca and elwhere that Muslims bow down to, just because some stupid Hadiths told them so.
That's my opinion.
Almost every other so called liberal secularist on PDF is a murtad in disguise
God has no houses. It's insulting and pretty much blasphemous to suggest a man-made structure is the house of an almighty and unexplainable deity.
Most pagan practices seem pre-programmed in the human psyche; the the need for these Hadiths to revive pagan rituals but calling an apple an orange.
"We look like we're worshiping idols but actually we don't anymore."
Kaaba is a masjid. There is video of people praying inside. Are Masjids idols. You are idolizing the Kaaba which is disbelief.God has no houses. It's insulting and pretty much blasphemous to suggest a man-made structure is the house of an almighty and unexplainable deity.
Kaaba is a masjid. There is video of people praying inside. Are Masjids idols. You are idolizing the Kaaba which is disbelief.
Quran 3-96 Indeed, the first House [of worship] established for mankind was that at Makkah - blessed and a guidance for the worlds.
The spoken word, uncreated, speaks for the sacred house of God. God's attributed to fill our desires and is most closer to us than we are to ourselves. These rituals are our needs for which God has chosen on his discretion the specifics.