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There are two types of taliban.

Both reside in Pakistan.

But operate on opposite sides of the Durand line.

Why do they exist in Pakistan?
Where where they prior to 2001?
How is it that they've survived this long?
Where and why do they get recruitment?

Answer me those questions...^
 
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Why do they exist in Pakistan?
Where where they prior to 2001?
How is it that they've survived this long?
Where and why do they get recruitment?

Answer me those questions...^

I don't have the answers man.

As a Pakistani its up to you to find the answers.

Its up to you to decide what you want to do moving forward.

To spend your national time and resources fingering and getting fingered in return.

Or to start getting your nation back on track and cleaning up your image globally.
 
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We don't really care what Afghans have to think about us. We feed you, cloth you, protect you, have been lenient, took 2 million of you as refugees and gave you shelter, etc.

You use Pakistani rupees in your markets, eat Pakistani food, have Pakistani tv programs, Pakistani cars, etc. What can I say you are a bhagharat insaan.

What is Pakistani and what if Afghani ? Most of all, what is a "bhagharat insaan" and who is responsible ?
On one hand Pakistanis claim to be descendants of the Mughals (who were mostly Afghans) and on other hand term their supposed ancestors as bhagharat.
You take pride in someone else being forced to use your currency, eat your food, watch your crappy tv programs that even you dont watch, and drive your post WW 2 era cars that even you dont wish to drive anymore.
Afghanistan will not forever be hidden by Pakistan's shadows. Some day the US will leave, the terrorists will organize and want to go after whoever created this mess.
 
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Rohmba nandri...( Translation...Thankyou very much)


good to see many indian tamilians on this forum :)

Why do they exist in Pakistan?
Where where they prior to 2001?
How is it that they've survived this long?
Where and why do they get recruitment?

Answer me those questions...^

Prior to 2001 they were in power in afghanistan...
They exist in pakistan cos of past actions of both pakistan and US..
Pakistani generals became greedy , when US asked for their help in 80's...
They survived till this long cos of ISI and some amount of public support in pakistan...
The recruitment takes place in pakistan, tribal areas of afghanistan....
 
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I don't have the answers man.

As a Pakistani its up to you to find the answers.

Sorry but it doesn't work like that.
You made an assumption based on something and as wrong as it was, I had the right to question.

If you can't answer the questions, is it then safe to say that you couldn't have known any better and shouldn't have posted that comment?

Its up to you to decide what you want to do moving forward.

To spend your national time and resources fingering and getting fingered in return.

Or to start getting your nation back on track and cleaning up your image globally.

That's all good and well, I agree with you here.
But I can't stand it when people make Pakistan the bad guy despite our selflessness in this WOT.

here I'll answer them for you...

Why do they exist in Pakistan? They were driven here because of a poorly managed and idiotic invasion

Where where they prior to 2001? In Afghanistan, remember Tora bora?

How is it that they've survived this long? A whole bunch of reasons... most notably that the mismanaged WOT has provided them with enough recruits.

Where and why do they get recruitment?

Everywhere, in 2001 many thousands died in the air campaign. The US invaded and aligned itself with the Northern alliance, this and this alone ensured that the taliban have a sound recruitment pool in Afghanistan. As the war progressed more civilian casualties, more BS from the democratic angels.

In Pakistan, the extremists were driven here after the invasion, instead of dealing whit them the US thought it'd be wiser to dump them elsewhere, too bad it came back to bite them in the ***. The recruitment is now sustained by drone strikes, every civilian casualties equals one more reason for people too support the Taliban and burn the American flag.

That is what everyone needs to understand. Sadly, Westerners, outsiders aren't told this side of the story.
And our Afghan friend is delusional enough not to recognize it.

regards,
 
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@ rajnikant .... awww naughty naughty wet dreams of a little indian....atleast u think about Pakistan all the time...i am sorry but we don't really think that much about ur country

Quite honestly, the troll threads created by pakistanis against india, is much more than indian threads against pakistanis...
It shows who r obessed with...
 
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when we talk about drones..it hurts you..doesnt it ?? it should...you simply want to talk about 26/11 because you did it..and do not want indians to talk on drones..because indians are not doing it..still your civiliand and army is getting killed.
Frankly, it doesn't, as long as they are taking out the culprits and not the innocents. There is no pride for when innocents are killed, but sometimes a reflection is detrimental.

when was the last time something like 26/11 happened where people from another land attacked ?? in fact 26/11 happened earlier and then those two incidents in your land....so stop saying similar thuings about India while referring to 26/11.

Simple answer....one happened due to your oppressive policies...while the other is an on going WOT.

supposedly ??? lol..please give me a break....
just accept it.:lol:
Acute comprehension problem......make an effort and try and understand what i said.

Isnt that easy ?? coming in a small dingy just like any fishermen using it..isnt it easy for men of asian origin, looking like Indians in India staying for 3 days ?? lol..look at Osama he was in Pakistan for so long..could you track him ?? lol..go rant it somehwere else that smaller things are easier to track...a helicopter like chinook is more trackable than a rubber dingy..but ..you couldnt track it..now making excuses.
The fishing boats from each country are often apprehended for straying in others waterways, and according to your drama queens, the boat had sailed all the way from Karachi.!!! Grapevine is Osama never ever left the house unlike the attackers who roamed all over your city.....indeed rant some where else. As for you making the disclosure on the Chinooks, as I said allegedly, because until recently,.....Drones were flying from within Pakistan. !!!

pakistan doesnt need to portray itself as a reginal power..it just has to get itself saved from getting bankrupt ,stand on its feet first..an then even talk about that..till then leave it on India...or one more thing you can do is..get burnt ;)
Rest assured, no farmers are drinking pesticides in Pakistan and despite the pressure of duty in fighting against the terrorists, no Pakistani soldier is on record for turning his gun on himself or his colleagues.!!! Oops, this statement would indeed cause many to BURN across the border. :oops:
 
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And only if yu remember that just 160 years ago yr great grand fathers were used to bow infront of Muslim moghul kings day in and day out

And Afghanis depend on us for their very existence ..they cant afford to hate us and for that matter who cares what they think ...Btw for yr info the thread starter was a false flagger...

Reallly?
Before that, they were made to fall on the feet of hindu marathas, Sikh maharaja Ranjith Singh...
Howeveer i respect my history, and yes, they were Indian and our kings...
And u r stupid enough to bring religion everytime into it, seeing how ur forefathers were forcefully converted
 
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Hi, welcome to the forum and we hate you too!
You brought infinite amounts of guns, ammo and drugs to our country, we bear the excess weight of 6 Million Afghan refugees, not to mention the culture of militancy and extremism that you introduced into our country that up till the 70s was a model of successful co-existence. You won't see me pretending that I love the Afghans and those deluded friends who do, do so because they still believe that the concept of a united ummah is a fair possibility(fat chance). Honestly, I think we should expel you guys, we followed that model in Bajaur and it was a success story until the new commandant relaxed the border policy for Afghan, and won't you know it......Bajaur is again at the forefront of a renewed campaign by the Taliban, led in person by Qari Zia Ur Rehman(An Afghan). I hope you read up on your history and do know that India too sponsored the NA, can't have a civil war without too warring factions can you?

Anyway, enjoy your stay, while it lasts!
 
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Hi, welcome to the forum and we hate you too!
You brought infinite amounts of guns, ammo and drugs to our country, we bear the excess weight of 6 Million Afghan refugees, not to mention the culture of militancy and extremism that you introduced into our country that up till the 70s was a model of successful co-existence. You won't see me pretending that I love the Afghans and those deluded friends who do, do so because they still believe that the concept of a united ummah is a fair possibility(fat chance). Honestly, I think we should expel you guys, we followed that model in Bajaur and it was a success story until the new commandant relaxed the border policy for Afghan, and won't you know it......Bajaur is again at the forefront of a renewed campaign by the Taliban, led in person by Qari Zia Ur Rehman(An Afghan). I hope you read up on your history and do know that India too sponsored the NA, can't have a civil war without too warring factions can you?

Anyway, enjoy your stay, while it lasts!

if i am not wrong, Afghanistan under Pak influence is in favor of Pak as strong Afghanistan will always demand to redraw Duand line

even Taliban opposed Durand line
 
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Sorry but it doesn't work like that.
You made an assumption based on something and as wrong as it was, I had the right to question.

If you can't answer the questions, is it then safe to say that you couldn't have known any better and shouldn't have posted that comment?



That's all good and well, I agree with you here.
But I can't stand it when people make Pakistan the bad guy despite our selflessness in this WOT.

here I'll answer them for you...

Why do they exist in Pakistan? They were driven here because of a poorly managed and idiotic invasion

Where where they prior to 2001? In Afghanistan, remember Tora bora?

How is it that they've survived this long? A whole bunch of reasons... most notably that the mismanaged WOT has provided them with enough recruits.

Where and why do they get recruitment?

Everywhere, in 2001 many thousands died in the air campaign. The US invaded and aligned itself with the Northern alliance, this and this alone ensured that the taliban have a sound recruitment pool in Afghanistan. As the war progressed more civilian casualties, more BS from the democratic angels.

In Pakistan, the extremists were driven here after the invasion, instead of dealing whit them the US thought it'd be wiser to dump them elsewhere, too bad it came back to bite them in the ***. The recruitment is now sustained by drone strikes, every civilian casualties equals one more reason for people too support the Taliban and burn the American flag.

That is what everyone needs to understand. Sadly, Westerners, outsiders aren't told this side of the story.
And our Afghan friend is delusional enough not to recognize it.

regards,

JB I typed out a long reply to you and as many times in the recent past, the reply did not get sent.

Don't have the energy to repeat. Suffice to say I have been on this board long enough to recognize and recall rebuttals to each point you have made.

There was a mammoth thread on Waziristan which went on and on. Its all there.

In any event, why would I and moreso you care WHY they are there.

All you should be concerned with is that they are and how you are going to tackle them.

Instead of these futile delineations of good taliban, soldier of Islam, etc etc and fake Taliban.

When are you going to see that?

Is it impossible to lock down your border with Afghanistan like the two of us have done, and concentrate on your own soil?

Nobody comes in. Nobody gets out.

Common sense says that's the most logical place to begin.
 
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if i am not wrong, Afghanistan under Pak influence is in favor of Pak as strong Afghanistan will always demand to redraw Duand line

even Taliban opposed Durand line


The Durand Line is a non-issue, Afghanistan is the ONLY country in the world to not recognize it as an international boundary. So it doesn't matter what Afghans feel about it, plus that's a problem limited to the Pushtun population, the Darrigan, accept the Durand line and are more interested in making the new Afghan model work, rather than weep over land that was ONCE theirs. Going by that logic, even Kabul was once part of the Mughal Empire, so India should lay claim to that......
 
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The Durand Line is a non-issue, Afghanistan is the ONLY country in the world to not recognize it as an international boundary. So it doesn't matter what Afghans feel about it, plus that's a problem limited to the Pushtun population, the Darrigan, accept the Durand line and are more interested in making the new Afghan model work, rather than weep over land that was ONCE theirs. Going by that logic, even Kabul was once part of the Mughal Empire, so India should lay claim to that......

That's a very good point! Now,if you'd just step sideways for a mo........
 
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