Afghan Taliban capture Pakistani soldiers in cross border attack

[Bill Longley]

it is easy to talk none sense. TTP and so called northern alliance have been long term enemies. TTP has killed many people in Afghanistan, they themselves have been killed and captured in large numbers in Afghanistan before 2001. as long as you have this good taliban and bad taliban in mind, you will suffer the same way as we do, simple as that.

LEAVE TALIBAN
TELL ME AM I WRONG THAT MAJORITY OF AFGHAN LEADERS ARE INVOLVE IN DRUG TRADE?

AND THAT TALIBAN EARN MONEY FROM THEM ON BOTH SIDES???

 

[Ahmad]

LEAVE TALIBAN
TELL ME AM I WRONG THAT MAJORITY OF AFGHAN LEADERS ARE INVOLVE IN DRUG TRADE?

AND THAT TALIBAN EARN MONEY FROM THEM ON BOTH SIDES???

Drug trade is a big problem in Afghanistan, who is denying that some people are not involved in this scum including brother of Karzai. You cant expect anything better from a war torn country like afghanistan. This drug trade is a huge issue from pakistan, to afghanistan and in iran. and why should we leave the taliban if we ever want to talk about drug trade? it is the poppy cultivation which is centered in the areas which has strong taliban presence and from that point it is smuggled to the other parts.

 

[Bill Longley]

Drug trade is a big problem in Afghanistan, who is denying that some people are not involved in this scum including brother of Karzai. You cant expect anything better from a war torn country like afghanistan. This drug trade is a huge issue from pakistan, to afghanistan and in iran. and why should we leave the taliban if we ever want to talk about drug trade? it is the poppy cultivation which is centered in the areas which has strong taliban presence and from that point it is smuggled to the other parts.

SO you are saying that NORTHERN AFGHANISTAN dominated by Tajiks/Uzbeks, Hazara's etc is DRUG FREE

Its only Pashtun Areas Which Have Drug cultivation
and thats why as Taliban are Pashtuns , Pashtuns help them where as Drugs from North controlled by NA War Lords hate Taliban thats why they sell and trade the drugs Produced Via Some other Route and dont need Taliban so dont help them ?

 

[mjnaushad]

most of the pakistanis here know that, this is a drama to neutralize the report by UK university by potraying this abduction drama...gawd..if this is risking the lives of soldiers, do you think there will be only 115 replies in this thread? that too half of them by only indians who have nothing to do with this idiotic drama?

and there are people who are expressing surprises and propheting theories with all concocted lies..waw..i don't know what you guys will achieve by doing this when none of you have seen eternal life per se..

gosh...every bit of this drama is very much evident to the naked eyes..but these people do not stop playing/lying it..

what a illeterate people!!!!!

iF you call this drama than what about 26/11. I think that was a drama too. Just to play victim India killed its own citizens.

If you want me to believe your conspiracy theroy then you should also believe mine.....

 

[Bill Longley]

Root of terror lies in Socio-politico and economic problems.
Any use of force without addressing these problems is counter productive , this may bring short term advantage but in long run create even more problems.
Unfortunately the actors in this war do not want to solve the problem. thats why we see lots of ad hocism. Kill and clear but not build and educate , its what happening through out the battle fields in this war.
Politicans are financed by capitalist giants like militery industrial complex and big oil and gas tycoons , or on other side by smuggling and drug out fits , they find this war in their favor.

Unfortunately our forign trained and Influence elite sees the intrests of Pakistan or in case of Afghanistan through googles of west especially America. Musharraf Tried Libral extremism to fight Religous extremism… At present War on terror is war between two extremes. where real motive is money and Power. No sane voice can be heard nationally and internationally extremism is considered way forward.

Its a fact that **War on terror** is actually **War for Terror** where few prosper on both sides and Majority suffers.

 

[Ahmad]

SO you are saying that NORTHERN AFGHANISTAN dominated by Tajiks/Uzbeks, Hazara's etc is DRUG FREE

Its only Pashtun Areas Which Have Drug cultivation
and thats why as Taliban are Pashtuns , Pashtuns help them where as Drugs from North controlled by NA War Lords hate Taliban thats why they sell and trade the drugs Produced Via Some other Route and dont need Taliban so dont help them ?

brother, please dont mix up the taliban with the ethnicities especially pashtoons. you can do this if you want, but this not my intention. Poppy cultivation is almost zero or close to zero in the north with the exception of north eastern Badakhshan province, although north is used a trade route for the drugs produced else where. the reason why it is free from poppy cultivation(or majority if not all) is because of the better security in most of its areas, NGOs and GoA are helping farmers with other alternatives so they are able to stop poppy, while in the south due to taliban strong presence this is almost imposible to implement, having said that despite all these problems Helmand has seen some delince in poopy cultivation. my home province of Laghman in the east of the coutry which is also safe people are now truing their back to poppy and alot of places have become poppy free, the same thing is said about herat becoming less or more poppy free because of the security. so it is mostly security thing rather than ethnicity.

 

[Bill Longley]

brother, please dont mix up the taliban with the ethnicities especially pashtoons. you can do this if you want, but this not my intention. Poppy cultivation is almost zero or close to zero in the north with the exception of north eastern Badakhshan province, although north is used a trade route for the drugs produced else where. the reason why it is free from poppy cultivation(or majority if not all) is because of the better security in most of its areas, NGOs and GoA are helping farmers with other alternatives so they are able to stop poppy, while in the south due to taliban strong presence this is almost imposible to implement, having said that despite all these problems Helmand has seen some delince in poopy cultivation. my home province of Laghman in the east of the coutry which is also safe people are now truing their back to poppy and alot of places have become poppy free, the same thing is said about herat becoming less or more poppy free because of the security. so it is mostly security thing rather than ethnicity.

Ahmed Lala

Situation in Afghanistan and Pakistan is not simple. Infact very confuseing. roots of terror lies some where eles and we are force to belive in some thing eles.

Pashtuns celebrated when Kabul fall but in 2 years same terror movement changed into Pashtun National struggle?

weather you reakon or not you know realities about what happend to pashtuns in North

you also know what is effect of Colletral Damage in Pashtun communities. In name of Taliban how Pashtuns are treated.

Its elite who get benifits where as common afghan suffers.

there is poverty, their is insecurity etc

why common afghan suffer when the leader gets benifits?
why

Pashtun , Uzbek or Tajik all want honest life

but who motivate them to kill each other?

if Taliban during their rule did worst was it nacessery that NA or non Pashtuns took revenge?

i tell you if Pakistan and Afghanistan want to have peace the people have to look in side for root causes instead of looking at imperial forces for directions.

its war for money not for human rights other other things

 

[Ahmad]

Ahmed Lala

Situation in Afghanistan and Pakistan is not simple. Infact very confuseing. roots of terror lies some where eles and we are force to belive in some thing eles.

Pashtuns celebrated when Kabul fall but in 2 years same terror movement changed into Pashtun National struggle?

weather you reakon or not you know realities about what happend to pashtuns in North

you also know what is effect of Colletral Damage in Pashtun communities. In name of Taliban how Pashtuns are treated.

Its elite who get benifits where as common afghan suffers.

there is poverty, their is insecurity etc

why common afghan suffer when the leader gets benifits?
why

Pashtun , Uzbek or Tajik all want honest life

but who motivate them to kill each other?

if Taliban during their rule did worst was it nacessery that NA or non Pashtuns took revenge?

i tell you if Pakistan and Afghanistan want to have peace the people have to look in side for root causes instead of looking at imperial forces for directions.

its war for money not for human rights other other things

brother, please dont go to the ethnic issues as it is the last thing i want to talk. Pashtons are suffering and the non pashtoons have been suffering too, non pashtoons in the north were masacared by the taliban who were majority pashtoon fighters, anything happening to minority of pashtoons in the north might be because of the result of that cruely by the taliban in that area, although it is never acceptable to punish somebody for the crimes of another one. the pashtoons might be suffering today, but non pashtoons have been suffering from the cruetly of pashtoon rulers for the last 200 years, pashtoon rulers were having monopoly on the governts and punishing non pashtoons, taking their land and killing them, we should wonder why pashtoons ended up in the north, i dont want to go to those subjects as it is clearly off topic, but we have suffered more than the pashtoons, even those rulers havent spared our language and culture, if peoole in pakistan dont want to hear all these, then it is something else, and yes, i agree with you that it is the common peoole who pay the price, not the rulers. lets focus on the main subject which is disappearance of Pak soldiers, i googled but i didnt see anyting new, have you got anything updated regarding that? hope the soldiers are safe and sound.

 

[Bill Longley]

brother, please dont go to the ethnic issues as it is the last thing i want to talk. Pashtons are suffering and the non pashtoons have been suffering too, non pashtoons in the north were masacared by the taliban who were majority pashtoon fighters, anything happening to minority of pashtoons in the north might be because of the result of that cruely by the taliban in that area, although it is never acceptable to punish somebody for the crimes of another one. the pashtoons might be suffering today, but non pashtoons have been suffering from the cruetly of pashtoon rulers for the last 200 years, pashtoon rulers were having monopoly on the governts and punishing non pashtoons, taking their land and killing them, we should wonder why pashtoons ended up in the north, i dont want to go to those subjects as it is clearly off topic, but we have suffered more than the pashtoons, even those rulers havent spared our language and culture, if peoole in pakistan dont want to hear all these, then it is something else, and yes, i agree with you that it is the common peoole who pay the price, not the rulers. lets focus on the main subject which is disappearance of Pak soldiers, i googled but i didnt see anyting new, have you got anything updated regarding that? hope the soldiers are safe and sound.

brother now reason to get apologatic
if taliban comitted crimes so did the Non Pashtuns
they havr equal share for strenthening of Taliban movement as Pashtun National struggle.

secondly if today Tajiks are comitting crimes against Pashtuns, tommorow pashtuns when back in Power will do same.

my point is come out of raciel biases

Dostam supported taliban then changed side

NA got money from Iran and India and forgot the time of Afghan jehad

its real politiks where common man is main victim

US want to Reach CIS and Russia and China dont want

Iran want Afghanistan to be battle ground of its war because it has dispute with US

Afghan Accuse Pakistan for mingleing in its affairs and Give India foot hold against Pakistan

Pakistan has worlds largest Pashtun Population and Have to be Pashtun Centric which is disliked by those who think they were victims in Pashtun era

then their are war lords and drug lords , International corporations who find the continous conflit in their favour , they earn on dead bodies of innocent afghans and Pakistani Pashtuns.


so war will go on

an Illogical and stupid war

without understanding all these facts we cannot understand what happend in Mohmand near Kunar or whats happening in Punjsher and Bagram or in Nouristan

 

[Dr.Evil]

So what's the present status of those captured Pak soldiers ?

 

[RescueRanger]

Any news on our boys?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Not yet nothing.... i hope they are well... may God bless them and take care of them.

And im sure they will be released.... army wont leave any stone unturned...

I remember an instance 4 soldiers of ,,,, F.C were abducted by terrorists frm afghan border....

We arrested the all the ba...ds responsible for the crime and got em released.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Cant u stop the usual loser indian troll mentality?

 

[Ahmad]

brother now reason to get apologatic
if taliban comitted crimes so did the Non Pashtuns
they havr equal share for strenthening of Taliban movement as Pashtun National struggle.

brother, as i said before, we have been the victim for the last 200 years, we have been killed, punished, forcefully have our identity changed, our land have been grabed, but that does not mean to take arms and destroy our people the way the taliban do, those people who do this , it is nothing but an excuse. we shold also not forget the most cruel pashtoon warlords such as gulbudin,sayaf, zardad, qalam, chaman and many more who were known for their cruelty that people can never forget it.

secondly if today Tajiks are comitting crimes against Pashtuns, tommorow pashtuns when back in Power will do same.

in today, as far as i see, it is only the taliban who have the arm and killing people, yes we have got corrupt people and they are from all ethnic groups including pashtoons and tajiks, but why shoud we only point out the tajiks who have been the victim for a very long time?

my point is come out of raciel biases

hope this statement was a general one and not directed to me, cuz i dont have any ethnic and racial biases. i see things through the eyes of humen, secondly my own mother is pashtoon and i never say anything bad to the pashtoons.

Dostam supported taliban then changed side

dostum never sided with the taliban, he was a horible man anyways.

NA got money from Iran and India and forgot the time of Afghan jehad

NA was also supported by pakistan. i need to say one more thing, during the fight against the taliban, NA was not from one ethnic group, it had all the 4 major ethnic groups of afghanistna in it, and that included strong presence of pashtoons botyh militarily and politicallly.

its real politiks where common man is main victim

very true.

Pakistan has worlds largest Pashtun Population and Have to be Pashtun Centric which is disliked by those who think they were victims in Pashtun era

then their are war lords and drug lords , International corporations who find the continous conflit in their favour , they earn on dead bodies of innocent afghans and Pakistani Pashtuns.

one thing that i have always positively enved pakistan is their co existing between different ethnic groups, the policy of governments had never been to punish one ethnic group and make the other ethnic group dominant, suppose if panjabis dictate everything in pakistan, pakistan would be lost like afghanistan. our leaders in the past in afghanistan created this type of problem and we cant get over it, being non pashtoon in afghanistan is something that you need to experience yourself especially hazaras to know what it is, we have experienced a long history of supresiotn by those rulers.

so war will go on

yes and sadly we will all suffer.

an Illogical and stupid war

very true.

 

[Ahmad]

So what's the present status of those captured Pak soldiers ?

nothing yet, i have been searching but couldnt find anything.