Afghan Officials want to support military strike in Pakistan

[Tiki Tam Tam]

You need to have a broader sense of understanding before qutoing my post into your words.
Now let me explain it in a way so that even you can understand it. Pakistani nation is united, there is no doubt in that but when it comes to an out side threat, then even those who have differences join in. Remember the enemy of my enemy is my best friend. So If US decides to attack pakistan, the president has made it clear it will be considered as an act of war and pakistan will declare war.

By your logic, in the broader sense of understanding, which even you will hopefully understand, the world is also united.

I presume if the world is attacked by Martians, we will stand untied.

By your understanding, every problem of Pakistan is because of "outside" forces. In other worlds, all Pakistanis are beyond having any personal views or even have any subnationalism in their subconscious!

If I can only ask you to read Mastan Khan's posts and attempt to understand the intent and underlining meaning without the baggage of emotions, sentiments and religion, maybe you will understand and not live in a dream world.

Ground realities, be it Pakistan or any other country, is beyond the realm of what you claim since utopia is yet to visit this unfortunate world!

I am a realist and hopefully beyond the baggage of of emotions, sentiments and more so, religion.

 

[Spring Onion]

Thanks for the clarification.

If the Tajiks are Sunni, then what is their problem?

Why are the opposing?

That is what I want to know.

Ethnicity is playing a role?

well in Pakistan or BD ethnicity might play a role but when it comes to Afghanistan there only Power matters.

It all about getting Power if it wasnt the point, Majority of the fighters (from sunni sides would have joined hands).

 

[Spring Onion]

By your understanding, every problem of Pakistan is because of "outside" forces. In other worlds, all Pakistanis are beyond having any personal views or even have any subnationalism in their subconscious!

outside forces only take advantage when we have our own weaknesses so i believe somehow we had been multiplying these weaknesses that had caused us and are causing us still.

It had been very unfotunat that we had not tried to make real efforts to join other block and sticked to one though we had no other compulsion but still i think we should have a back up plan.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

well in Pakistan or BD ethnicity might play a role but when it comes to Afghanistan there only Power matters.

It all about getting Power if it wasnt the point, Majority of the fighters (from sunni sides would have joined hands).

If by BD, you mean Bangladesh, then that is not relevant nor do I seen any connection since they are no longer in Pakistan. They have gone and they are independent and there is no two ways about that. They just can't play any role in the woes of Pakistan or do you feel that still play a major role?

Are you suggesting that the Tajik are doing so for power and it has nothing to do with ethnicity?

In other words, correct me if I am wrong, sects play no role and all this hassle in the areas of contention is all a power play.

Indeed, if it is a power play, what is it they want?

They are not even Pashtuns that one can say they want an independent Pakhtoonistan.

What do they want?

 

[IceCold]

By your logic, in the broader sense of understanding, which even you will hopefully understand, the world is also united.

So you mean to say that the whole world is willing to attack pakistan and just needs a yes from US. IS that what you are trying to imply here?

I presume if the world is attacked by Martians, we will stand untied.

By your understanding, every problem of Pakistan is because of "outside" forces. In other worlds, all Pakistanis are beyond having any personal views or even have any subnationalism in their subconscious!

I dont know why do you make things up which i havent said. Are you somekind of paronid or something? seeing things, guessing what the other hasnt even said. Is there something wrong with your understanding about my post. Where did i said that every problem of pakistan is because of outside forces? However i always say that outside forces do have a significant role in the problems faced by pakistan. Let me give you an example, pakistan isnt the only one responsible for tailban, US was equally too, yet only pakistan is blamed and not the US.

If I can only ask you to read Mastan Khan's posts and attempt to understand the intent and underlining meaning without the baggage of emotions, sentiments and religion, maybe you will understand and not live in a dream world.

What is there that implies for me to be living in a dream world. Are you suggesting that pakistanies as a nation are not together interms if attacked or are you suggesting that its really ok if US crosses over the boder after all the cause is the same to eliminate terrorism?

Ground realities, be it Pakistan or any other country, is beyond the realm of what you claim since utopia is yet to visit this unfortunate world!

And what did i claim that is beyond the realm, instead its you who's constantly trying to derail this thread. It seems as if because of your growing age you are unable to understand what i wrote.

I am a realist and hopefully beyond the baggage of of emotions, sentiments and more so, religion.

Your reality only seems to come alive when it comes to pakistan and everything seems to be clearer rest assured, indians are known to more sentiments and emotions when kashmir is brought into.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

So you mean to say that the whole world is willing to attack pakistan and just needs a yes from US. IS that what you are trying to imply here?

Your paranoia speaks.

You claimed a military background. Indeed if you have it, then it is extraordinary that you feel Pakistan can be attacked and it will capitulate like an aspen leaf! I am confident that such is not the philosophy taught in the Pakistan Army, because it borders on the ridiculous!

I did not imply it, you are doing it. And it is most stupid a plan that can be imagine, that is, in a militarily sense. In a dream sequence of a film, it is feasible, but I am not in films, even if you are. Only one, who has no clue of the way campaigns are planned, would suggest that Pakistan can be attacked and captured! What a way out thought!

I hope that clears your misgivings.

I dont know why do you make things up which i havent said. Are you somekind of paronid or something? seeing things, guessing what the other hasnt even said. Is there something wrong with your understanding about my post. Where did i said that every problem of pakistan is because of outside forces? However i always say that outside forces do have a significant role in the problems faced by pakistan. Let me give you an example, pakistan isnt the only one responsible for tailban, US was equally too, yet only pakistan is blamed and not the US.

Friend, implying thing is as good as saying things.

Let me give you an example.

Choro, mat maro.

And check this:

Choro mat, maro!

Got the difference old boy? Same words. The comma makes all the difference.

Don't get cute.

It is not that others have vacuum between their ears!

What is there that implies for me to be living in a dream world. Are you suggesting that pakistanies as a nation are not together interms if attacked or are you suggesting that its really ok if US crosses over the boder after all the cause is the same to eliminate terrorism?

One does not have to go too far to explain how united anyone can be.

This forum itself is an adequate testimony; that is if you just look at the post objectively and not through you narrow vision that you repeatedly exhibit!

Since you claim you are a military man, let me give you a military example.

A tank is safe in all types of firing if they close their hatch.

But when they are hit by a direct medium, they explode.

So watch for the direct mediums and not think that all is safe, just because you are closing your hatch!

And what did i claim that is beyond the realm, instead its you who's constantly trying to derail this thread. It seems as if because of your growing age you are unable to understand what i wrote.

I am not derailing anything. I am trying to learn from educated posters and there are many here. Do join them!

Your reality only seems to come alive when it comes to pakistan and everything seems to be clearer rest assured, indians are known to more sentiments and emotions when kashmir is brought into.

My reality come into being about all issues, especially the troubled spots of the world.

Why?

Because I can't understand why people can't live in peace and why they are chasing shadows!

It is time for you to warm up, dear Icecold, to understand what I write and not just take me on for the sake of taking me on!

 

[IceCold]

Your paranoia speaks.

You claimed a military background. Indeed if you have it, then it is extraordinary that you feel Pakistan can be attacked and it will capitulate like an aspen leaf! I am confident that such is not the philosophy taught in the Pakistan Army, because it borders on the ridiculous!

I did not imply it, you are doing it. And it is most stupid a plan that can be imagine, that is, in a militarily sense. In a dream sequence of a film, it is feasible, but I am not in films, even if you are. Only one, who has no clue of the way campaigns are planned, would suggest that Pakistan can be attacked and captured! What a way out thought!

I hope that clears your misgivings.

So the rest of the world is also untied? What does that mean or now do you even have your own way of understanding things.

Friend, implying thing is as good as saying things.

Let me give you an example.

Choro, mat maro.

And check this:

Choro mat, maro!

Got the difference old boy? Same words. The comma makes all the difference.

Don't get cute.

It is not that others have vacuum between their ears!

Spare me with your Urdu phrases doest suit you. Though i do not need to clarify anything but still did to you, yet it seemed you are just too paranoid to understand, indeed you look for words which are never spoken and then you tend to take whatever meaning you want too, i simply dont care.

One does not have to go too far to explain how united anyone can be.

Why this word united seems to be haunting you? is it the first time you heard it.

This forum itself is an adequate testimony; that is if you just look at the post objectively and not through you narrow vision that you repeatedly exhibit!

I think its you who need to see the post more throughly before running your mouth and accusing others of things they never said. It makes you look plain stupid.

Since you claim you are a military man, let me give you a military example.

A tank is safe in all types of firing if they close their hatch.

But when they are hit by a direct medium, they explode.

So watch for the direct mediums and not think that all is safe, just because you are closing your hatch!

I didnt knew it thanks for informaing me. Next time i'll look for the medium

I am not derailing anything. I am trying to learn from educated posters and there are many here. Do join them!

You are trying to learn! lol now that was a surprise, because it seems that you are on a mission to make others learn to see things from your prepective.

My reality come into being about all issues, especially the troubled spots of the world.

That is where you are wrong. You see pakistan isnt the only troubled spot, and i would suggest you to have a look at ones own home before giving an eye to the rest of the troubled spots.

Because I can't understand why people can't live in peace and why they are chasing shadows!

It is time for you to warm up, dear Icecold, to understand what I write and not just take me on for the sake of taking me on!

I donot need to understand you, its you who needs to take a closer look at things before deciding to go ballistic. You are arguing with me over things i never said it and yet inclined to prove that i have by quoting silly logics of yours. Grow up, A guy of your level, and this way of thinking surely make others at doubt about your military background.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

So the rest of the world is also untied? What does that mean or now do you even have your own way of understanding things.

Absolutely. Given in your dream fantasy way of logic and understanding!

Spare me with your Urdu phrases doest suit you. Though i do not need to clarify anything but still did to you, yet it seemed you are just too paranoid to understand, indeed you look for words which are never spoken and then you tend to take whatever meaning you want too, i simply dont care.

Not Urdu really.

I am glad you understood it.

It is Hindi.

Noticed the commonality in language?

Of course, you will not care. What's new?

You are blinkered and obsessed with Don Quixotic psychology - fighting against windmills!

Why this word untied seems to be haunting you? is it the first time you heard it.

Untied is not haunting me, neither is united.

What is haunting me is the state of denial and fantasy.

Yet, I take heart that there are people here on this forum, who are also Pakistanis, who are grappling with reality; and that is the best hope for the world to overcome the types of you!

Sanity shall prevail, despite the blinkered like you!

I think its you who need to see the post more throughly before running your mouth and accusing others of things they never said. It makes you look plain stupid.

Stupid I may be.

But if rudeness is your forte, may I with your leave, say that a cretin is what you are!

Blind as a bat!

I didnt knew it thanks for informaing me. Next time i'll look for the medium

Do so.

My, self imagined, soldier!

Children love playing soldiers!

Play on.

But those who are soldiers and have seen it all, do not display the stupidity that lead to wars, destruction, devastation and misery!

You are trying to learn! lol now that was a surprise, because it seems that you are on a mission to make others learn to see things from your prepective

.

Of course you will not understand that I am being educated.

Blind bats, normally don't!

That is where you are wrong. You see pakistan isnt the only troubled spot, and i would suggest you to have a look at ones own home before giving an eye to the rest of the troubled spots.

Only a clot would feel that other parts of the world is problem free.

Only a clot would not realise what I say of my own country.

Blind bats also will not know, since they are blind, when there is light!

I donot need to understand you, its you who needs to take a closer look at things before deciding to go ballistic. You are arguing with me over things i never said it and yet inclined to prove that i have by quoting silly logics of yours. Grow up, A guy of your level, and this way of thinking surely make others at doubt about your military background.

You cannot understand me. It requires intellect and education.

Tell me something new!

 

[IceCold]

Absolutely. Given in your dream fantasy way of logic and understanding!



Not Urdu really.

I am glad you understood it.

It is Hindi.

Noticed the commonality in language?

Of course, you will not care. What's new?

You are blinkered and obsessed with Don Quixotic psychology - fighting against windmills!






Untied is not haunting me, neither is united.

What is haunting me is the state of denial and fantasy.

Yet, I take heart that there are people here on this forum, who are also Pakistanis, who are grappling with reality; and that is the best hope for the world to overcome the types of you!

Sanity shall prevail, despite the blinkered like you!





Stupid I may be.

But if rudeness is your forte, may I with your leave, say that a cretin is what you are!

Blind as a bat!





Do so.

My, self imagined, soldier!

Children love playing soldiers!

Play on.

But those who are soldiers and have seen it all, do not display the stupidity that lead to wars, destruction, devastation and misery!

.

Of course you will not understand that I am being educated.

Blind bats, normally don't!



Only a clot would feel that other parts of the world is problem free.

Only a clot would not realise what I say of my own country.

Blind bats also will not know, since they are blind, when there is light!





You cannot understand me. It requires intellect and education.

Tell me something new!

Look Salim we are going in circles over the same thing again and again. I absolutely do not care what you want or like to make out of my post. Hell i wasnt the only one you are trying to do so with, Jana also has highlighted the same of what you were trying to do with her post. It seems you are having some kind of illness, first you change facts mentioned in ones post, and then you start arguing over it. Does that brings some kind of harmony to your lost soul or what?
However i would suggest you to not pretend that you know pakistan and pakistanies well over someone who's actually living in pakistan under the circumstances. Just for your information today when a blast occured in lahore, i was near it, you cant compare it with what you saw or may have saw on the TV. And before calling someone blind, i'll suggest take a look at ownself who just couldnt read things properly.
By the way isnt it late for you. I suggest you take a break here and have some good nite sleep, i'm sure tomorrow morning you will start seeing thing in their actual manner.

 

[IceCold]

Untied is not haunting me, neither is united.

Atleast something constructive out of you. Thanks for mentioning the misplaced I.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Look Salim we are going in circles over the same thing again and again. I absolutely do not care what you want or like to make out of my post. Hell i wasnt the only one you are trying to do so with, Jana also has highlighted the same of what you were trying to do with her post. It seems you are having some kind of illness, first you change facts mentioned in ones post, and then you start arguing over it. Does that brings some kind of harmony to your lost soul or what?
However i would suggest you to not pretend that you know pakistan and pakistanies well over someone who's actually living in pakistan under the circumstances. Just for your information today when a blast occured in lahore, i was near it, you cant compare it with what you saw or may have saw on the TV. And before calling someone blind, i'll suggest take a look at ownself who just couldnt read things properly.
By the way isnt it late for you. I suggest you take a break here and have some good nite sleep, i'm sure tomorrow morning you will start seeing thing in their actual manner.

Having nothing constructive to offer, you go back into your whimpering self!

Man, get a life!

You were near a blast.

I was in one.

That is the difference.

TV is your staple.

Not mine, old bean!

wake up an smell the coffee, you claimed soldier!

Yes, it 0059 here, but what of it?

Sleep is dear to you. Not me.

Keep awake and be vigilant!

That is what a soldier does, and you claim you are one. Worried about sleep, are you?

Chocolate cream soldier do!

I may not know about Pakistan and Pakistanis as you do (though I doubt it for one to know who is blinkered as you), nut Pakistan does concern me and that is why I want to know more.

I want to know the reality called Pakistan and not the dream spun by the blind!

 

[roadrunner]

Having nothing constructive to offer, you go back into your whimpering self!

Man, get a life!

You were near a blast.

I was in one.

That is the difference.

TV is your staple.

Not mine, old bean!

wake up an smell the coffee, you claimed soldier!

Yes, it 0059 here, but what of it?

Sleep is dear to you. Not me.

Keep awake and be vigilant!

That is what a soldier does, and you claim you are one. Worried about sleep, are you?

Chocolate cream soldier do!

LOL! Funny stuff Salim. Did you say all that in one breath?

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Yes, though I would say I got a second wind!

 

[roadrunner]

Thanks for the clarification.

If the Tajiks are Sunni, then what is their problem?

Why are the opposing?

That is what I want to know.

Ethnicity is playing a role?

Sure ethnicity. Cultures are different. They want a Tajik dominated government, Pashtuns want a Pashtun dominated government. afaia, Pashtuns have a legitmate claim to having a Pashtun dominated government, since they are in the majority in Afghanistan. A minority ruling a majority in their country shouldn't be allowed, though a Tajik head of state in a majority Pashtun government would be fine. A Pashtun head of state in a Tajik dominated government like now though, is not right.

 

[IceCold]

Having nothing constructive to offer, you go back into your whimpering self!

I said so because its useless to debate with a Jerk like you a self illusioned man.

Man, get a life!

You were near a blast.

I was in one.

That is the difference.

TV is your staple.

Not mine, old bean!

wake up an smell the coffee, you claimed soldier!

Yes, it 0059 here, but what of it?

Sleep is dear to you. Not me.

Keep awake and be vigilant!

That is what a soldier does, and you claim you are one. Worried about sleep, are you?

Chocolate cream soldier do!

Its you who need to have a life other then just hanging around here with your asusual rant and nothing more. You talk about facts and when i tell you you to prove, you simply backaway coming up with your silli logics. Its you who need to grow up and get a live. The blast part i mentioned because i was there so i can better provide how it feels to be there rather you sitting on your armchair. Understand the difference i'm trying to highlight here when you pretend to know everything about pakistan.

I may not know about Pakistan and Pakistanis as you do (though I doubt it for one to know who is blinkered as you), nut Pakistan does concern me and that is why I want to know more.

Then stop pretending that you know all and dont get too blinded with your self created image about pakistan, try to see it from a different angle as well.

I want to know the reality called Pakistan and not the dream spun by the blind!

To see the reality one must have eyes, which i doubt you have at the moment.