Advanced JF-17 versions coming, 10 years after service entry

[nomi007]

hope
block-iii will get
ej-200 engine

 

[Windjammer]

Please be very careful on copyright issues
Did you take permission from av week prior to reproducing the whole article here?
Some publishers are stricter than others

Hence the reason i never published the full text.

https://defence.pk/threads/advanced-jf-17-versions-coming-10-years-after-service-entry.477706/

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

if Pakistan HAS A INDENGIOUS RADAR then please share with us GUYS the rdar and specs

TO DATE I have assumed the radrs are chinease KLJ series

indians said EXACTLY that with regards to Pakistan's nukes, MIRVs & SLCM. Yet we still produced them and NO ONE on this earth can do anything about it. Much to the anguish, dismay and disbelief if our enemies.......

 

[YeBeWarned]

Block-3 will not be in Production till 2019 ... i figured as much, but they will make additional 12-18 block-2's in 2018 which is a good Sign , now either they will be for export or for PAF is yet to be seen ..
@Windjammer @araz @Oscar what do you think ? will these Additional Fighters be for export ?

Article says, PAF is evaluating multiple contenders for AESA and least 2 are Chinese , so apart from Italian Vixen who are the other contenders ? Turkish @cabatli_53 any News of PAF evaluation on Turkish AESA ??

 

[MarcsPakistan]

I heard that these Planes will replace F-7's and our Base MM.Alam by the 2 seat Variant of JF-17

 

[Basel]

hope
block-iii will get
ej-200 engine

I think that a high end JFT with EJ-200 or possibly EJ-230 should be built.

 

[Bratva]

If the requirement is there, Block 1/2s will be upgraded to the Block 3 standard later.

The old age pathetic mindset of PAF strike again. They are acting as if IAF is the IAF of 90's. Instead of upgrading all the JF-17's along with Block-3 production, they are cutting corners again or delaying the whole process.

hope
block-iii will get
ej-200 engine

I think that a high end JFT with EJ-200 or possibly EJ-230 should be built.

If wishes and hopes were horses, beggars would ride. Gentleman make analysis on what realistically on the plate or could be on plate. Not on some fantasy.

 

[Basel]

The old age pathetic mindset of PAF strike again. They are acting as if IAF is the IAF of 90's. Instead of upgrading all the JF-17's along with Block-3 production, they are cutting corners again or delaying the whole process.





If wishes and hopes were horses, beggars would ride. Gentleman make analysis on what realistically on the plate or could be on plate. Not on some fantasy.

Since JFT program initiated hi-low mix of JFT was on cards so its very possible, and even JFT can have 2 type of AESAs and avioncs too.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Nothing in sight except Jf17 Block 3

Missing that canceled 36 J10B deal

 

[WarFariX]

Advanced JF-17 versions coming, 10 years after service entry

Alan Warnes | Aviation Week & Space Technology
Feb 13, 2017

With the first export orders signed and new capabilities being introduced at a rapid pace, 2017 looks set to be an important year for the JF-17 Thunder developed by China and Pakistan.

The first flight of a two-seat version—JF-17B—is planned for the first quarter, Pakistan will stand up its fifth squadron flying the aircraft, and contracts are due to be signed for the most advanced variant, the Block 3, complete with active, electronically scanned array (AESA) radar.

The new fighter is critical to the Pakistani air force’s growth plan. Besides introducing new capabilities, it helps avoid Western sanctions that have previously blighted its operations. The development of a two-seat version is seen as key to adding capabilities and generating export orders. Assembly of the first twin-stick aircraft is underway at the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) in Kamra. Three are being built, one for China’s Avic and two for Pakistan’s air force. Having a two-seater in the testing and development program will speed up the integration of weaponry, according to Chinese partner Catic. The first JF-17B is expected in Pakistan by mid-2017.

“Pakistan’s air force has never needed dual seaters to train its fighter pilots. We took delivery of the Shenyang F6, Chengdu F-7P/PG, Hongdu A-5C and the JF-17 without a trainer version,” says Air Marshal Arshad Malik, the chairman of PAC. “But we appreciate the Thunder’s technologies will be new to many of our markets [in Africa, the Middle East and Asia] so we opted to develop a dual-seater with our Chinese friends,” he adds.

With contracts for 50 Block 1 and 50 Block 2s signed and deliveries of all but the last 14 Block 2s, attention is now switching to a contract for 50 Block 3 models. However, it is looking increasingly as if production of these aircraft will not start until 2019, and as a result PAC will manufacture 12 additional Block 2s in 2018, to ensure production does not halt.

A decision on a new AESA radar for the Block 3s will be made this May. There are several contenders, including at least two Chinese options. One is the upgraded China Electronics Technology Group Corp. KLJ-7A, while Leonardo (formerly Selex ES) is also offering a system.

Another improvement is an aerial refueling capability. Trials and qualifications of a new production aircraft built with a Chinese inflight refueling probe are also reportedly underway.

Block 3 enhancements will also include new avionics, better electronic warfare systems, increased payload and more sophisticated weaponry. PAC officials describe it as the ultimate JF-17—and with an AESA radar, it will have the capability to employ longer-range weapons and track multiple aircraft. If the requirement is there, Block 1/2s will be upgraded to the Block 3 standard later.

The Russian-made Klimov RD-93 engine, which has flown over 30,000 hr. with Pakistani air force JF-17s, will likely to be replaced by a Chinese option. But this will take time and will come as an upgrade.

PAC is currently producing 16 aircraft a year for the air force; the 16th fighter aircraft for the service was handed over on Dec. 31. A similar number will be delivered this year to cover the last batch of Block 2 jets. “We can increase our output even further to cope with future exports,” Malik adds. Nigeria has already confirmed an order for three JF-17s, but no further details are known.

Pakistan’s air arm is operating the JF-17 with four squadrons at four bases, with a fifth due to form shortly. Its aircraft have been qualified for the anti-shipping role, equipped with the C-802AK missile and air defense duties with the SD-10A beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile (AAM) and the PL-5E short-range AAM.

Several air-to-surface weapons have also been integrated, including the CM-400 stand-off supersonic missile and the CM-102 lightweight anti-radiation missile. Work with the 500-lb. GB-1 laser guided bomb and the YINGS III targeting pod, on display at the Zhuhai Air Show last November, is underway. Pakistan’s air force is exploring further options as it looks to continuously boost its operational readiness.

Chinese-Pakistani JF-17 Thunder Fighter Will Fly In 2017 | Aviation Week & Space Technology


@HRK @Path-Finder @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Oscar @Windjammer @Horus @TheDarkKnight @PAR 5 @Ulla @django

love u xD

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Advanced JF-17 versions coming, 10 years after service entry

Alan Warnes | Aviation Week & Space Technology
Feb 13, 2017

With the first export orders signed and new capabilities being introduced at a rapid pace, 2017 looks set to be an important year for the JF-17 Thunder developed by China and Pakistan.

The first flight of a two-seat version—JF-17B—is planned for the first quarter, Pakistan will stand up its fifth squadron flying the aircraft, and contracts are due to be signed for the most advanced variant, the Block 3, complete with active, electronically scanned array (AESA) radar.

The new fighter is critical to the Pakistani air force’s growth plan. Besides introducing new capabilities, it helps avoid Western sanctions that have previously blighted its operations. The development of a two-seat version is seen as key to adding capabilities and generating export orders. Assembly of the first twin-stick aircraft is underway at the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) in Kamra. Three are being built, one for China’s Avic and two for Pakistan’s air force. Having a two-seater in the testing and development program will speed up the integration of weaponry, according to Chinese partner Catic. The first JF-17B is expected in Pakistan by mid-2017.

“Pakistan’s air force has never needed dual seaters to train its fighter pilots. We took delivery of the Shenyang F6, Chengdu F-7P/PG, Hongdu A-5C and the JF-17 without a trainer version,” says Air Marshal Arshad Malik, the chairman of PAC. “But we appreciate the Thunder’s technologies will be new to many of our markets [in Africa, the Middle East and Asia] so we opted to develop a dual-seater with our Chinese friends,” he adds.

With contracts for 50 Block 1 and 50 Block 2s signed and deliveries of all but the last 14 Block 2s, attention is now switching to a contract for 50 Block 3 models. However, it is looking increasingly as if production of these aircraft will not start until 2019, and as a result PAC will manufacture 12 additional Block 2s in 2018, to ensure production does not halt.

A decision on a new AESA radar for the Block 3s will be made this May. There are several contenders, including at least two Chinese options. One is the upgraded China Electronics Technology Group Corp. KLJ-7A, while Leonardo (formerly Selex ES) is also offering a system.

Another improvement is an aerial refueling capability. Trials and qualifications of a new production aircraft built with a Chinese inflight refueling probe are also reportedly underway.

Block 3 enhancements will also include new avionics, better electronic warfare systems, increased payload and more sophisticated weaponry. PAC officials describe it as the ultimate JF-17—and with an AESA radar, it will have the capability to employ longer-range weapons and track multiple aircraft. If the requirement is there, Block 1/2s will be upgraded to the Block 3 standard later.

The Russian-made Klimov RD-93 engine, which has flown over 30,000 hr. with Pakistani air force JF-17s, will likely to be replaced by a Chinese option. But this will take time and will come as an upgrade.

PAC is currently producing 16 aircraft a year for the air force; the 16th fighter aircraft for the service was handed over on Dec. 31. A similar number will be delivered this year to cover the last batch of Block 2 jets. “We can increase our output even further to cope with future exports,” Malik adds. Nigeria has already confirmed an order for three JF-17s, but no further details are known.

Pakistan’s air arm is operating the JF-17 with four squadrons at four bases, with a fifth due to form shortly. Its aircraft have been qualified for the anti-shipping role, equipped with the C-802AK missile and air defense duties with the SD-10A beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile (AAM) and the PL-5E short-range AAM.

Several air-to-surface weapons have also been integrated, including the CM-400 stand-off supersonic missile and the CM-102 lightweight anti-radiation missile. Work with the 500-lb. GB-1 laser guided bomb and the YINGS III targeting pod, on display at the Zhuhai Air Show last November, is underway. Pakistan’s air force is exploring further options as it looks to continuously boost its operational readiness.

Chinese-Pakistani JF-17 Thunder Fighter Will Fly In 2017 | Aviation Week & Space Technology


@HRK @Path-Finder @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Oscar @Windjammer @Horus @TheDarkKnight @PAR 5 @Ulla @django

YINGS III targeting pod :-O

 

[SQ8]

The old age pathetic mindset of PAF strike again. They are acting as if IAF is the IAF of 90's. Instead of upgrading all the JF-17's along with Block-3 production, they are cutting corners again or delaying the whole process.





If wishes and hopes were horses, beggars would ride. Gentleman make analysis on what realistically on the plate or could be on plate. Not on some fantasy.

What mindset is it?
You have made a statement referencing a mindset but not really clarifying whatever that mindset is
What was the IAF mindset?
What corners have been cut and why in your opinion?

 

[Ultima Thule]

Bruh, the J-31 isn't even finished.

So what is your problem?

 

[Hassan Guy]

So what is your problem?

That guy said we should buy it now.

 

[Ultima Thule]

That guy said we should buy it now.

Ok

 

[WarFariX]

just wait Block 4 will be superior to both F 22 and F 35 !

r u from zee news?