Adnan Sami claims he has royal Afghan lineage and his ancestor conquered Kafiristan

[Arsalan]

My apologies, I fear I might have acted over defensively.

No worries at all.

You just do not need to be defensive. You are a Pakistani, that is what you defines you, whether you are a Punjabi or Pathan or Balochi. None of us need to defend those Afghan scums who have proven their namakharami being fed by us for decades and now coming to bite us. The pathans in Pakistan (as far as i know) detest Afghans more than a Punjabi ever will. This is what i have observed from my interaction with them. (though i will be honest and there is this one guy from Mata who thinks that Afghans and Pakistani pathans are one group and there is no border here)

No, i am clear about you. You were talking against people of Afghanistan, of every ethnicity i presume. Thats why i posted a picture of Hazara girl in Pakistan Air force and asked you why she is not what you call "namak haram" if every person of Afghan lineage (from Afghanistan) is inherently namak-haram or whatever. You generalization even does not hold true regarding family of Adnan Sami , as his father served in Pakistan Air Force and Foreign affairs, did namak-halali and disagreed with views of his son till the end. Now this namak-harami and namak-halali business is relative. In the same manner a person with roots from Afghanistan serving Pakistan might be namak-haram for Afghanistan and vice versa.

Your hostile views towards Afghans and Afghanistan are purely out of Watani nationalism, and their hostile views towards Pakistanis and Pakistan are also out of watani nationalism.


Pardon me but i am not getting your post. Are you telling me that only Pashtuns of Afghanistan are meant when members here declare Afghans to be namak-haram?

Not ANY particular ethnic group but Afghans as a whole are the most dis-likeable people as far as i am concerned. I mean, what would you do to a person you fed and provided with shelter despite being a poor country yourself and now they say they do not let ANY OPPORTUNITY go by without damaging Pakistan's interest. I would have said that it is Afghan government that follows the lead of India but then again, WHAT GOVERNMENT? There is no gov. in Afghanistan, just a bunch of warloards running the affairs of the state or trying to do so with the most powerful and supported one sitting on PM's chair. Looking at this, I as a Pakistani who shared his bread with a Afghan have a right to be disgusted with their attitude and take what their policy towards us as the policy of AFGHANS and as i said, we just need to read history to learn that it has been this way since partition!

I am not against pathans or hazara community but the AFGHANS, i cant stand them for what the are doing or pathetically trying to do to my country.

 

[Spring Onion]

Jana ji .... Fakher e alam was grandson of Gen Rani and here is interesting read ....

Its a bombshell .... look at this

http://shiningpak.blogspot.com/2015/07/undisclosed-facts-about-remarkable.html

fakhr e alam ka to pata hay mujhe he is grandson of Rani the famous.
When I was a student I read a book few years back about her and many other Pakistani politicians and their relations with pimps.

In fact I find her fascinating specially the power she had during Gen Yahya's period.

Her rise to the almost stardom power from wife of an ordinary police officer is very interesting.

In fact let me share a piece of comments of general Rani aka Akleem Akhtar

In a May 2002 interview with Newsline, Akhtar stated:

“I was determined to beat men at their own game. Since my husband was in the police, I had been observing men in positions of power throughout my married life and I had realised that all men in positions of power needed a vent and the vent they require the most is a bedmate provided through a reliable agency. The higher a man’s position, the greater his demand.”
"Thus Akhtar adopted a motto of ‘miyan ki juti miyan ke sir’ which means to 'beat men at their own game' and started a prostitution business."

Mother of Adnan Sami is niece of Akhtar aka General Rani

http://reviewit.pk/family-of-aqleem-akhtar/

Means the grandmother of Adnan Sami Khan was the sister of grandmother of Fakhr-e-Alam so it further means that Adnan Sami Khan's grandmother was not a Kashmiri but from Gujrat Punjab Pakistan.

Proven fact?

Why this Hazara girl with roots from Afghanistan is not what you call "namak haram"?

Because she is a Pakistani not Afghanistani )))))))

We all know that in Pakistan majority of people do not and cannot differentiate between an ethnicity and a nationality when it comes to the word Afghan.

Whenever Pakistanis use the word Afghan they mean Afghanistanis.

Dear Members all Pashtuns are Afghans because Afghan is a bloodline, an ethnicity so when you use the word Afghan and namakharam please add "istani " at the end of the former.

 

[Arsalan]

fakhr e alam ka to pata hay mujhe he is grandson of Rani the famous.
When I was a student I read a book few years back about her and many other Pakistani politicians and their relations with pimps.

In fact I find her fascinating specially the power she had during Gen Yahya's period.

Her rise to the almost stardom power from wife of an ordinary police officer is very interesting.

In fact let me share a piece of comments of general Rani aka Akleem Akhtar

In a May 2002 interview with Newsline, Akhtar stated:

“I was determined to beat men at their own game. Since my husband was in the police, I had been observing men in positions of power throughout my married life and I had realised that all men in positions of power needed a vent and the vent they require the most is a bedmate provided through a reliable agency. The higher a man’s position, the greater his demand.”
"Thus Akhtar adopted a motto of ‘miyan ki juti miyan ke sir’ which means to 'beat men at their own game' and started a prostitution business."



Means the grandmother of Adnan Sami Khan was the sister of grandmother of Fakhr-e-Alam so it further means that Adnan Sami Khan's grandmother was not a Kashmiri but from Gujrat Punjab Pakistan.



Because she is a Pakistani not Afghanistani )))))))

We all know that in Pakistan majority of people do not and cannot differentiate between an ethnicity and a nationality when it comes to the word Afghan.

Whenever Pakistanis use the word Afghan they mean Afghanistanis.

Dear Members all Pashtuns are Afghans because Afghan is a bloodline, an ethnicity so when you use the world Afghan and namakharam please add "istani " at the end of the former.

Ge u"stani" ge!
Samj gaya!

 

[Mian Babban]

No worries at all.

You just do not need to be defensive. You are a Pakistani, that is what you defines you, whether you are a Punjabi or Pathan or Balochi. None of us need to defend those Afghan scums who have proven their namakharami being fed by us for decades and now coming to bite us. The pathans in Pakistan (as far as i know) detest Afghans more than a Punjabi ever will. This is what i have observed from my interaction with them. (though i will be honest and there is this one guy from Mata who thinks that Afghans and Pakistani pathans are one group and there is no border here)


Not ANY particular ethnic group but Afghans as a whole are the most dis-likeable people as far as i am concerned. I mean, what would you do to a person you fed and provided with shelter despite being a poor country yourself and now they say they do not let ANY OPPORTUNITY go by without damaging Pakistan's interest. I would have said that it is Afghan government that follows the lead of India but then again, WHAT GOVERNMENT? There is no gov. in Afghanistan, just a bunch of warloards running the affairs of the state or trying to do so with the most powerful and supported one sitting on PM's chair. Looking at this, I as a Pakistani who shared his bread with a Afghan have a right to be disgusted with their attitude and take what their policy towards us as the policy of AFGHANS and as i said, we just need to read history to learn that it has been this way since partition!

I am not against pathans or hazara community but the AFGHANS, i cant stand them for what the are doing or pathetically trying to do to my country.

Iranians would have same hostility towards you (and you would also have hostility towards them) if there was a border dispute between Iran and Pakistan and Pakistan was in possession of a territory with people of Iranian descent with same history like British imperialism, Durand line and Anglo-Afghan wars. Imagine Iran/Iranis in place of Afghanistan/Afghans and you would have been calling Iranians "namak-haram".........why you are expecting namak-halali and friendship from Afghans when Durand line is still a dispute between you and them?. You are pretending Afghans are hostile for no reason when from the get go the relations between two countries got sour due to Pashtunistan issue and it kept on worsening. If there was no dispute between the two countries, Afghans would have been either neutral or siding with you against India.

Afghan is hating you out of the same sentiment that you have, the nationalism. Its because of nationalism they are thankless, and its because of nationalism you find every Afghan dis-likable and namak-haram.

 

[Arsalan]

Iranians would have same hostility towards you (and you would also have hostility towards them) if there was a border dispute between Iran and Pakistan and Pakistan was in possession of a territory with people of Iranian descent with same history like British imperialism, Durand line and Anglo-Afghan wars. Imagine Iran/Iranis in place of Afghanistan/Afghans and you would have been calling Iranians "namak-haram".........why you are expecting namak-halali and friendship from Afghans when Durand line is still a dispute between you and them?. You are pretending Afghans are hostile for no reason when from the get go the relations between two countries got sour due to Pashtunistan issue and it kept on worsening. If there was no dispute between the two countries, Afghans would have been either neutral or siding with you against India.

Afghan is hating you out of the same sentiment that you have for them, the nationalism. Its because of nationalism they are thankless

Have you read about the Durand line dispute?
It was never a dispute between PAKISTAN and Afghanistan. The problem was carried forward with Pakistan while it could have been settled sensibly but do we really expecting anything sensible from the Afghan"istani" people? @Spring Onion
Kindly please read about it, not from Pakistani perspective alone but ready about it as told by foreign authors and you will see how this was made into a dispute with Pakistan. As for the namak-harami, you do not even need to read about anything. Just look around you, listen to the news and see what is happening in our country and you will understand what i meant.

 

[Spring Onion]

Iranians would have same hostility towards you (and you would also have hostility towards them) if there was a border dispute between Iran and Pakistan and Pakistan was in possession of a territory with people of Iranian descent with same history like British imperialism, Durand line and Anglo-Afghan wars. Imagine Iran/Iranis in place of Afghanistan/Afghans and you would have been calling Iranians "namak-haram".........why you are expecting namak-halali and friendship from Afghans when Durand line is still a dispute between you and them?. You are pretending Afghans are hostile for no reason when from the get go the relations between two countries got sour due to Pashtunistan issue and it kept on worsening. If there was no dispute between the two countries, Afghans would have been either neutral or siding with you against India.

There is NO durand line. We have no Afghanistani territory under our possession. From FATA to Wahga it is PAKISTAN and only Pakistan.

Afghanistanis can try taking it and Pakistani Pashtuns will teach them a lesson simple as that. For us when it comes to boundry they are just Kabulis for us when it comes to ethnicity they are our brothers so pick which one you want to be and we will treat you the way.

Afghanistanis are hostile towards Pakistan for NO reason indeed as from DAY 1 they refused to accept Pakistan's independence and afterwards tried to invade Bajaur Pakistan and thus Pakistan got involved in Afghan shit.

There is NO Pashtunistan and if there was any bleak chance of the same then it would be Greater KPK Pakistan not the other way round. But that way the Non-Resident Afghanistanis or for that matter those Afghanistanis sitting in EU and West on fake Pakistani passports will loose relevance and propaganda chances. tooo bad

o BTW when Ghafar Khan led misguided Pashtun youth towards Afghanistan in the wake of 1947 process the Afghans refused to let own Afghans in and thus many lost lives.

Have you read about the Durand line dispute?
It was never a dispute between PAKISTAN and Afghanistan. The problem was carried forward with Pakistan while it could have been settled sensibly but do we really expecting anything sensible from the Afghan"istani" people? @Spring Onion
Kindly please read about it, not from Pakistani perspective alone but ready about it as told by foreign authors and you will see how this was made into a dispute with Pakistan. As for the namak-harami, you do not even need to read about anything. Just look around you, listen to the news and see what is happening in our country and you will understand what i meant.

Arsalan I grew among Afghan refugees in Peshawar and hundreds of them are still here living among us so we have a better outlook of them and their general behaviour.

Most of Pashtun Afghan refugees were poor from the start and majority of them are still poor . They are hardworking people who earn halal rizq in Pakistan. They are humble people.

Then there are dari speaking Afghan Pashtuns in KPK most of them are in Peshawar. They are well off most of them though there are poor ones too. They have a proper system of living jointly and thus able to pay huge rents in posh areas like Hayatabad. Mostly their women are educated and they survived by working in different professions including shop keeping, labour work and also prostitution.

Both of these ethnic Afghanistanis do not carry hate towards Pakistan in general.

The phenomenon of hate has a recent history specially the filth spread by internet warriors , so called Afghans who lost identity, who ran away from Afghanistan during the hardest time period and now live luxurious lives in EU/West in the name of Afghan war victims and terror cards

Now

 

[Dawood Ibrahim]

Sanga chal day D-Company IPL k pa kam team banday ticket lagaoo

Bus Allah shukar De Khair de. Taso waye. Or VJ Malaria (Vija Mallya) la me paise warkarhe di kho Agha begherata U K ta otahtedo kho Zama sara os hum Zillion Dollars prate di kho ka way no os ba darta 1 Billion transfer kam

 

[Spring Onion]

Bus Allah shukar De Khair de. Taso waye. Or VJ Malaria (Vija Mallya) la me paise warkarhe di kho Agha begherata U K ta otahtedo kho Zama sara os hum Zillion Dollars prate di kho ka way no os ba darta 1 Billion transfer kam

waee za ka ta way no ra tanspar ee ka

 

[punit]

Do not abuse any nationality.

An eminent TTA started this !

funny thread.. because of Adnan Sami .. Pakistanis are abusing Pakistani of Afghani ancestry !

 

[Dawood Ibrahim]

waee za ka ta way no ra tanspar ee ka

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[Well.wisher]

Okay but we're not interested .
Do something good so it's worth of publish in magazines. Who gives a shit about your ancestors.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Pardon me but i am not getting your post. Are you telling me that only Pashtuns of Afghanistan are meant when members here declare Afghans to be namak-haram?

Well,we meant all those who once came here,were living in our country and enjoyed God damn every commodity then moved to west or back to Afghanistan in case of karzai,amrullah and Abdullah and today they are spewing venom on us 24/7.Isn't that namak harami?To insult those who sheltered you in time of need....

 

[Mian Babban]

Well,we meant all those who once came here,were living in our country and enjoyed God damn every commodity then moved to west or back to Afghanistan in case of karzai,amrullah and Abdullah and today they are spewing venom on us 24/7.Isn't that namak harami?To insult those who sheltered you in time of need....

You were talking about some thing else. What was the following all about?

I haven't seen any Tajik from Tajikistan or Uzbak from Uzbekistan and Turkman from Turkmenistan claiming to be an Afghan just because there are members of his nationality living in Afghanistan.
And then there are some Pakistani folks who are born in Pakistan raised in Pakistan there family working and living in different parts of Pakistan but still they would like to call themselves member of another nationality WHY?
Because some old poet said it centuries ago?
How many Americans calling themselves Irish or Germans?

Explain the above to me and tell me why you blurted out randomly like that.

 

[Spring Onion]

A/C Detail Please

walay da jazzcash pa paiso day sa

 

[django]

The earth quake funds story?

No , quite a seedy story though I have no evidence, only rumours so I will refrain, but if it is true, I will lose all respect for him and his family.