Adnan Sami claims he has royal Afghan lineage and his ancestor conquered Kafiristan

[Ocean]

I do not really understand what all the fuss is about, millions of Muslim from India crossed over into Pakistan whilst only a handful of supposedly non Hindu folks crossed over to Bharat "cough" "cough" Tarek Fateh and Adnan Sami. Enough said!


So fakhr and Sami are cousins,,,,, i have also heard some nasty things about Fakhr which i will not mention.

General rani was yahya khans gf , she was fakhr e alams nani. Mohers mom.
Adnan sami is an afghan kashmiri , general rani was a punjabi , dont see how they are related.

 

[Sine Nomine]

You were talking about some thing else. What was the following all about?
Explain the above to me and tell me why you blurted out randomly like that.

i was explaining you about those who love there Afghan roots anf claim themselves Afghans,while living in Pakistan.

 

[Kabira]

General rani was yahya khans gf , she was fakhr e alams nani. Mohers mom.
Adnan sami is an afghan kashmiri , general rani was a punjabi , dont see how they are related.

His mother isn't Kashmiri. He claimed she was from Jammu which is pahari area. But his grandmother is sister of General Rani who was from Gujrat/Punjab.

Also Sami doesn't claim to be random afghan from Herat but pathan. He doesn't go in to much detail despite Herat not being pashtun city historically. Neither he reveal his tribe origins. Hindi surname give away that his grandfather was not pathan but just someone who served in Herat and maybe was also born there.

 

[icebreaker2]

Why is this even a thread and why was I tagged?@Mian Babban

 

[Ocean]

Her mother isn't Kashmiri. He claimed she was from Jammu which is pahari area. But her grandmother is sister of General Rani who was from Gujrat/Punjab.

Also Sami doesn't claim to be random afghan from Herat but pathan. He doesn't go in to much detail despite Herat not being pashtun city historically. Neither he reveal his tribe origins. Hindi surname give away that his grandfather was not pathan but just someone who served in Herat and maybe was also born there.

LMAO. in olden times when islam had arrived in sub con many people who used to convert to islam would adopt Khan as surname. Maybe that is the reason his moms name ahs khan in it. But so shameless to link his mother with jammu.
There was a famous saint called baba shadi shaheed , his real name was maharaja dharam chand , a first dogra ruler who converted to islam and adopted name Shadab khan.
He is our distant relative though are not from same clan . Some of my relatives still show respect to him due to family ties, though i REAPEAT we are NOT from same clan. And his ancestral history is different . Now we should also steal his ancestory and make a claim we are from ruling families of dogra. LMAO.

 

[Jaanbaz]

This thread has left me a bit confused, the only conclusions I can see from this thread is that not all Afghans are bad and many Pakistanis of Afghan origins have fought for Pakistan and still are and that Adnan Sami's ancestors were pimps?

 

[HAIDER]

Proven fact?

Why this Hazara girl with roots from Afghanistan is not what you call "namak haram"?

she is national asset and pride and my favorite ...

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

I actually disagree, sometimes people don't realize what they are saying could hurt other people unintentionally. So its better to atleast let them know and maybe they will mend their ways or correct themselves.

But if they continue thats when you just ignore them and move on, atleast you did your part.

Bashing anti Pakistan Afghans should not be taken as bashing Pakistani patriotic Pashtuns
We non pashtuns differentiate between ethnicity and nationality and when we use word Afghan then we talk about someone who own afghan nationality irrespectiive of which ethnic groups or someone who is loyal toward Afghaistan

You people confuse others by saying Pahstun= Afghan when one is ethnic group while other is nationality

 

[Viking 63]

This Fatso belongs in a Mental Institution for good !!

 

[Hamzay]

And he's a shame to this lineage, a 'Bhaand' and a 'traitor'.

اس کے باپ داداؤں نے بہ قول اس کے کافرستان فتح کیا مگر یہ خود کافرستان کے ہاتھوں فتح ہو گیا۔
دودھ کی جگہ لسی دینے والی بیمار گائے​

 

[Mian Babban]

I totally disagree with the general Pakistani view that Afghans ( i will here defend my ethnic brethren across Durand only) are namak-haram by nature. By that standards, Sher Shah (whose father was from present-day Pakhtunkhwa) and Khushal Khan Khattak (also from present-day KP) were also namak-harams. In fact all the Afghans (Pashtuns) have been called "namak-haram" in Mughal histories but the fact is their conscience and pride never allowed them to be obsequious and bootlickers of the people who had snatched power and glory from them. Afghans are of view that everything comes from Allah. Only be grateful to Allah. When you help someone, you are supposed to help them for the sake of Allah. Some people think that when they do a favor for you, they own you. Afghans don't accept being owned.

. Maybe that is the reason his moms name ahs khan in it. .

Her mother had Khan in her name because of her husband. In case you dont know, wives in Pakistan and elsewhere put the surname of their husbands after marriage. e.g Gori Khan (wife of Shahrukh Khan)

Why is this even a thread and why was I tagged?@Mian Babban

You are very related to the topic, think hard

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

I totally disagree with the general Pakistani view that Afghans ( i will here defend my ethnic brethren across Durand only) are namak-haram by nature. By that standards, Sher Shah (whose father was from present-day Pakhtunkhwa) and Khushal Khan Khattak (also from present-day KP) were also namak-harams. In fact all the Afghans (Pashtuns) have been called "namak-haram" in Mughal histories but the fact is their conscience and pride never allowed them to be obsequious and bootlickers of the people who had snatched power and glory from them. Afghans are of view that everything comes from Allah. Only be grateful to Allah. When you help someone, you are supposed to help them for the sake of Allah. Some people think that when they do a favor for you, they own you. Afghans don't accept being owned.

Afghans are of view that everything comes from Allah ?

Its not just views of afghans but all Muslims

and you are defending Afghans in here as if you know every single of them and they are all same according to you with only positive traits in them and none of them keep any hatred, arrogance and racism against Pakistani Muslims especially non Pahstun Pakistani and they don't bad mouth Pakistan even after spending so many years in Pakistan.

You can visit Afghanistan and conduct your survey over there and then share the opinions of afghans about Pakistan and non Pashtun Pakistani and then share your finding with us lol . You can continue taking insult and abuse from those who hate your country because they are from same ethnic group but we will give them taste of their own medicine as no sane person with self respect will like those who hate your existence and identity

 

[Mian Babban]

You can continue taking insult and abuse from those who hate your country because they are from same ethnic group but we will give them taste of their own medicine as no sane person with self respect will like those who hate your existence and identity

I am not asking you to love them. Afghan hates you because of nationalism and you hate them also because of nationalism. Your loyal/patriot is his namak-haram/traitor and his loyal/patriot is your namak-haram/traitor. Things are not in black and white, and right and wrong here is relative to the convictions of Pakistanis and Afghans

 

[Ocean]

Her mother had Khan in her name because of her husband. In case you dont know, wives in Pakistan and elsewhere put the surname of their husbands after marriage. e.g Gori Khan (wife of Shahrukh Khan)

Ya i know i had figured out khans part in his mothers name already though after i made the post, but then even his father is not a pashtoon and has khan in his name, though that could be because his grandfather had served in afghan courts so he was given Khan title. Atleast this is something I know that many muslim converts adopted name khan because khan used to be considered a muslim name

 

[Arsalan]

This thread has left me a bit confused, the only conclusions I can see from this thread is that not all Afghans are bad and many Pakistanis of Afghan origins have fought for Pakistan and still are and that Adnan Sami's ancestors were pimps?

Strange that the last part was news to you