Admiral: U.S. submarine forces decline as forces of China, Russia, Iran adv

[jaibi]

I find it unlikely that Iran will pose a challenge to the US Navy. Whenever the USA has been challenged she has dominated the other by technology. The only way that the USA has been challenged in the past two centuries is by asymmetrical forces not by conventional forces.

 

[Surenas]

I find it unlikely that Iran will pose a challenge to the US Navy. Whenever the USA has been challenged she has dominated the other by technology. The only way that the USA has been challenged in the past two centuries is by asymmetrical forces not by conventional forces.

Iran does pose a challenge to the US Navy in the Persian Gulf, Straight of Hormuz and surroundings.

 

[jaibi]

Iran does pose a challenge to the US Navy in the Persian Gulf, Straight of Hormuz and surroundings.

The tone of the article was decline of US naval power internationally that is unlikely.

 

[Doritos11]

Iran does pose a challenge to the US Navy in the Persian Gulf, Straight of Hormuz and surroundings.

Threat and against it’s interests yes, no military challenge to the 5th fleet.

 

[vostok]

United States, as well as their mother Britain - pirate island state. They built their prosperity on wars and robbery. And like all the pirates, they are most concerned about their warships - if there would no ships, how they will loot and destroy the states? Therefore, even if half the people in the U.S. will die of hunger, the government will still build expensive and good ships. How else to do piracy?

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

Persian Ego? Much? Did you even bother looking at their Navy?

Iran does pose a challenge to the US Navy in the Persian Gulf, Straight of Hormuz and surroundings.

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Let's hear from @Imran Khan @anonymus

Threat and against it’s interests yes, no military challenge to the 5th fleet.

.. Are you serious bro? Iran can't do sh!t. The only true rivals to the US are Russia and China. Forget about the rest.

 

[Doritos11]

Persian Ego? Much? Did you even bother looking at their Navy?


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Let's hear from @Imran Khan @anonymus



.. Are you serious bro? Iran can't do sh!t. The only true rivals to the US are Russia and China. Forget about the rest.

Just a threat to interests, no military challenge, 1 aircraft carrier carries too much firepower, more then most countries.

 

[Yabgu]

United States, as well as their mother Britain - pirate island state. They built their prosperity on wars and robbery. And like all the pirates, they are most concerned about their warships - if there would no ships, how they will loot and destroy the states? Therefore, even if half the people in the U.S. will die of hunger, the government will still build expensive and good ships. How else to do piracy?

Russia built their prosperity on on wars and ethnic cleansing of Chechens and Caucasus Muslims? Stealing their resources from their land.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

Just a threat to interests, no military challenge, 1 aircraft carrier carries too much firepower, more then most countries.

10 B-2 bombers can do it

 

[anonymus]

You forgot the Ohaio class sub

Ohio class is SSBN. It carries ballistic missiles and does not participates in offensives. SSBN's job is to patrol in deep seas out of reach of most of countermeasures ( barring enemy's nuclear SSN's ) while it is SSN's job to hunt down enemy's ship and submarines.

Ohio is best in SSBN's category but

In SSN's category, Seawolf class is best. It is also quietest Nuclear submarine.


Until Soviet disintegrated, they use to have a parity with US in underwater capabilities but US has pulled a huge lead in underwater capabilities in past two decades.

the shckula or yassen can go and win against Seawolf.Even the Kilo SSK's will win against seawolfs in their own territories like Artic ,Barents,Meditterean or littoral waters of Vladivostok.But the numbers are insufficient plus the main threats will be the los angeles class SSN's which will be working in Wolf packs against Russian Submarines and which are very numerous in numbers ,I believe 40 are operational .Though Russian submarines will deliver a very deep wound into the US naval submarine and surface fleet.

Seawolf is quieter than Los angeles class and SSK's don't have range to hunt down SSN's.

Iran does pose a challenge to the US Navy in the Persian Gulf, Straight of Hormuz and surroundings.

While a handful of countries could defend against a land invasion from US and could inflict enough damage in air that US lose appetite for war but no country could even pose a shard of threat to US in Ocean.

Even if all Navies of the world combine against USN,within 24 hrs Whole of world's navy would be at the bottom of Ocean. A single Aircraft carrier of USN carries more power than eighth largest Airforce in the world.

 

[EMERCOM]

Ohio class is SSBN. It carries ballistic missiles and does not participates in offensives. SSBN's job is to patrol in deep seas out of reach of most of countermeasures ( barring enemy's nuclear SSN's ) while it is SSN's job to hunt down enemy's ship and submarines.

Ohio is best in SSBN's category but

In SSN's category, Seawolf class is best. It is also quietest Nuclear submarine.


Until Soviet disintegrated, they use to have a parity with US in underwater capabilities but US has pulled a huge lead in underwater capabilities in past two decades.




Seawolf is quieter than Los angeles class and SSK's don't have range to hunt down SSN's.





While a handful of countries could defend against a land invasion from US and could inflict enough damage in air that US lose appetite for war but no country could even pose a shard of threat to US in Ocean.

Even if all Navies of the world combine against USN,within 24 hrs Whole of world's navy would be at the bottom of Ocean. A single Aircraft carrier of USN carries more power than eighth largest Airforce in the world.

Seawolf is quieter than Los angeles class and SSK's don't have range to hunt down SSN's.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/middle...es-china-russia-iran-adv-2.html#ixzz2eyaJcPNV

there are only 3 seawolfs. and US navy will have to engage the SSK's while hunting for Typhoon and delta ssbn's in the artic.Second Yassen is more silent than seawolf anyways.

 

[faithfulguy]

I think USN will always be in a perpetual decline for some people. Unfortunately for them, USN will stay heads and shoulders above the rest of top 4 navies of the world combined for the foreseeable future.

there are only 3 seawolfs. and US navy will have to engage the SSK's while hunting for Typhoon and delta ssbn's in the artic.Second Yassen is more silent than seawolf anyways.

virginia class is more quiet than any nuclear subs out there. Its probably approaching that of diesel electric sub.

 

[anonymus]

there are only 3 seawolfs. and US navy will have to engage the SSK's while hunting for Typhoon and delta ssbn's in the artic.Second Yassen is more silent than seawolf anyways.

SSK's has limited range and need to periodically return to port for refueling ( else you have to use submarine tenders ) also they need to surface/snorkel every week or so in order to recharge their batteries thus revealing their approximate position to radars and satellites.

SSK accompanying a SSBN would defeat the whole concept of a free ranging Submerged missile carrier as you SSBN's would have to curtail their patrol area and speed in order to keep pace with SSK's which they are unlikely to do as it would reveal their gross position thus making it easier to hunt them.

 

[vostok]

Russia built their prosperity on on wars and ethnic cleansing of Chechens and Caucasus Muslims? Stealing their resources from their land.

Are there too many resources in the Caucasus?
Cuacasus always sucked out people and resorses from Russia, energy and money without giving anything in return. Russia had to spend a lot of force to stop the uprising Highlanders paid by English.
Russia did not have colonies, so it can not still something.
All wild tribes became part of the Russian Empire and the local wild mountainous become equated to the Russian aristocrats whose ownership could exceed the area of ​​the average European kingdom. Russia has always given savage tribes far more than took from them - this is the difference between Russia and the West.
American Indians long ago rotting in the land of their ancestors, and the natives in Russia have their republics, universities, parliaments, industry.

 

[anonymus]

I think USN will always be in a perpetual decline for some people. Unfortunately for them, USN will stay heads and shoulders above the rest of top 4 navies of the world combined for the foreseeable future.



virginia class is more quiet than any nuclear subs out there. Its probably approaching that of diesel electric sub.

Diesel subs are quieter than Nuclear subs only when they are lying in ambush with their engines shut down as Nuclear submarines do not have the flexibility of shutting down their engine/reactor when required.

With Engines operating, Nuclear submarines are quieter compared to Diesel Submarines.