ACM Arup Raha talks about PAF & the LCA & another Fighter order

[Storm Force]

SOME VERY INTERESTING POINTS.

ACM Raha says another order for fighters is needed now to plug gap.

ideally he would like Rafale MADE IN INDIA......and has expressed this to Govt

INDIA may order another cheaper option

TEJAS X 123 is coming but will take a full decade.

THAT IAF IS A VERY OFFENSIVE AIR POWER

NO AIR FORCE THAT RELYS ON a DEFENSE concept can expect to WIN a AIR WAR

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

SOME VERY INTERESTING POINTS.

ACM Raha says another order for fighters is needed now to plug gap.

ideally he would like Rafale MADE IN INDIA......and has expressed this to Govt

INDIA may order another cheaper option

TEJAS X 123 is coming but will take a full decade.

THAT IAF IS A VERY OFFENSIVE AIR POWER

NO AIR FORCE THAT RELYS ON a DEFENSE concept can expect to WIN a AIR WAR

a small aircraft like tejas for offensive? lol no thanks

 

[egodoc222]

a small aircraft like tejas for offensive? lol no thanks

It's offensive enough to tackle our enemies!!

 

[dilpakistani]

the only worrisome detail in that interview was 272 Sukois... IAF Sukoi fleet in that sheer number is very potent... it's almost same as our total capability to fight and defend. That is the reason of that aggressive posture and Itch to fight they have... they know in their heart their advantage is insurmountable by PAF....... PAF is catching up though ... JFT is not the answer to the threat but it somewhat gives a standing chance... We certainly need a better platform in huge numbers ... frankly Su-35 seems to be the only contender for that .. 5 - 6 squadrons of Su-35 would deter any aggressive enemy.

 

[Storm Force]

So 36 rafale are not an issue or 100 Mig29 or the fifty mirage 2000.

Pakistanis air power doctrine is too limited to win a war .no flexibility or depth strategic reach.

It's a defensive posture as the ACM politely suggested

he knows indian air power will influence any war more than the pak military or the Indian army or even navy.

ACM Raha is the man

You Pakistanis are right about lack of a heavy multi role fighter of mid fourth generation fighter in your make up

Paf needs six sqds of flanker from.china or Russia to influence a war effectively

That's like 8 to 10 billion dollar investment factoring weapons and infrastructure needs of new heavy fighter

 

[IceCold]

NO AIR FORCE THAT RELYS ON a DEFENSE concept can expect to WIN a AIR WAR

The problem is we dont want to win a war, we just want to get enough time before International community steps in and a stalemate is declared.
Now how flawed this strategy is for another thread. Just to be clear i too am against PAF defensive strategy. @MastanKhan

 

[BABA AGHORI]

The problem is we dont want to win a war, we just want to get enough time before International community steps in and a stalemate is declared.
Now how flawed this strategy is for another thread. Just to be clear i too am against PAF defensive strategy. @MastanKhan

Last full scale war there was no stalemate my friend.
Relying on the external factor for the outcome is not a effective strategy, effectiveness and timing when is not in your control is dangerous..

 

[Storm Force]

a small aircraft like tejas for offensive? lol no thanks

India already has huge punch and reach in heavy aircraft
The tejas is perfect for low cost local operations in indian air space and cas over loc borders and too increase numbers.

With the flanker programme India has
For filled the hard part now the low cost numbers filling and mig 21 REPLACEMENT PART is required

 

[NKVD]

the only worrisome detail in that interview was 272 Sukois... IAF Sukoi fleet in that sheer number is very potent...

Correct your figures there 322 MKI's which about to be manufactured in HAL Nasik facility.

"India's Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) aims to begin manufacturing components and spare parts for the Sukhoi Su-30MKI multirole fighters it licence-builds for the Indian Air Force (IAF).

A HAL official told IHS Jane's on condition of anonymity that India and Russia are negotiating a transfer of technology that would enable the company to locally produce 322 Su-30MKI line replaceable units (LRUs) under the Indian government's 'Make in India' initiative".


http://www.janes.com/article/66785/...are-parts-for-licence-built-su-30mki-fighters

 

[IceCold]

Last full scale war there was no stalemate my friend.
Relying on the external factor for the outcome is not a effective strategy, effectiveness and timing when it is not in your control is dangerous..

Indeed it is not. When one fights a war it should be fought with the purpose of wining and not a stalemate. By thinking of a stalemate, you have already lost even before it began. PAF defensive strategy is what many Pakistani question. PAF needs to have a offensive strategy along with the army. Pakistan navy is even more worse.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Pakistan navy is even more worse.

PN is going through major overhauling. From land based anti ship missiles to SLCM, PN is getting deadly. Once Chinese subs joins the party 2022 onwards, I don't think enemy will have a field day on Pakistani waters.

 

[IceCold]

PN is going through major overhauling. From land based anti ship missiles to SLCM, PN is getting deadly. Once Chinese subs joins the party 2022 onwards, I don't think it enemy can have a field day into Pakistani waters.

Once those subs enter yes it will be a different story but i still am for surface platforms. We at the moment do not have a platform with a decent anti air capability. We need a decent tonnage to induct a meaningful VLS anti air and cruise missile capability.

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

India already has huge punch and reach in heavy aircraft
The tejas is perfect for low cost local operations in indian air space and cas over loc borders and too increase numbers.

With the flanker programme India has
For filled the hard part now the low cost numbers filling and mig 21 REPLACEMENT PART is required

u need at the minimum- medium weight class jets for the range in order to be considered as an offensive asset- and offensive fighters will have to be based deep into the safer heartland of its mother country- no sane military planners will put an aircraft's home base at the border regions.

i repeat:

Tejas as a defensive asset- ok.
As an offensive asset ? lol no thanks.

 

[NKVD]

Tejas as a defensive asset- ok.
As an offensive asset ? lol no thanks

If tejas not offensive asset neither does JF-17

 

[Storm Force]

India has 400 plus twin engined heavy fighters ..For offensive operation's

Pakistan has nil not a single twin engined or offensive plane.

The only asset that will give the current indian fighter pilots a concern is the block 52 falcons. One squadron ie 17 planes

Even the fifty five mlu fighters are more air defense orientated