What's new

Achievements those who migrated for Pakistan empty handed & what they achieved for dream of Pakistan

Zia-ul-Haq (12 August 1924 – 17 August 1988) was a Pakistani four-star general who became the sixth President of Pakistan after declaring martial law in 1977. He served as the head of state from 1978 until his death in 1988. He remains the country’s longest-serving head of state.

Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq
محمد ضیاء الحق
Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq (Pakistan president).jpg
Zia as president, circa 1985
6th President of Pakistan
In office
16 September 1978 – 17 August 1988
Prime Minister
Muhammad Khan Junejo
Preceded by
Fazal Ilahi Chaudhry
Succeeded by
Ghulam Ishaq Khan
Chief of Army Staff
In office
1 March 1976 – 17 August 1988
Preceded by
Tikka Khan
Succeeded by
Mirza Aslam Beg
Personal details
Born
12 August 1924
Jalandhar, Punjab, British India
(now in Punjab, India)
Died
17 August 1988 (aged 64)
Bahawalpur, Punjab, Pakistan
Cause of death
Airplane crash
Resting place
Faisal Mosque, Islamabad
Nationality
British Indian (1924–1947)
Pakistani (1947–1988)
Spouse(s)
Begum Shafiq Zia (1950–1988; his death)[1]
Children
5 (including Muhammad Ijaz-ul-Haq)
Alma mater
St. Stephen's College, Delhi
United States Army Command and General Staff College
Military service
Allegiance
British India
Pakistan
Branch/service
British Indian Army
Pakistan Army
Years of service
1943–1988
Rank
OF-9 Pakistan Army.svg General
Unit
22 Cavalry, Army Armoured Corps (PA – 1810)
Commands
2nd Independent Armoured Brigade
1st Armoured Division
II Strike Corps
Chief of Army Staff
Battles/wars
World War II
Indo-Pakistani War of 1965
Indo-Pakistani War of 1971
Soviet–Afghan War
Educated at Delhi University, Zia saw action in World War II as a British Indian Army officer in Burma and Malaya, before opting for Pakistan in 1947 and fighting as a tank commander in the Indo-Pakistani War of 1965. In 1970, he led a military training mission to Jordan, proving instrumental to defeating the Black September insurgency against King Hussein.[2] In recognition, Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto appointed Zia Chief of Army Staff in 1976.[3] Following civil disorder, Zia deposed Bhutto in a military coup and declared martial law on 5 July 1977.[4] Bhutto was controversially tried by the Supreme Court and executed less than two years later, for allegedly authorising the murder of Nawab Muhammad Ahmed Khan Kasuri, a political opponent.[5]

Assuming the presidency in 1978, Zia played a major role in the Soviet–Afghan War. Backed by the United States and Saudi Arabia, Zia systematically coordinated the Afghan mujahideen against the Soviet occupation throughout the 1980s.[6][7] This culminated in the Soviet Union's withdrawal in 1989, but also led to the proliferation of millions of refugees, with heroin and weaponry into Pakistan's frontier province. On the foreign front, Zia also bolstered ties with China and the United States, and emphasised Pakistan's role in the Islamic world, while relations with India worsened amid the Siachen conflict and accusations that Pakistan was aiding the Khalistan movement. Domestically, Zia passed broad-ranging legislation as part of Pakistan's Islamization, curbed civil liberties, and heightened press censorship.[8] He also escalated Pakistan's atomic bomb project, and instituted industrialisation and deregulation, helping Pakistan's economy become the fastest-growing in South Asia.[9] Averaged over Zia's rule, GDP growth was the highest in the country's history.[10]

After lifting martial law and holding non-partisan elections in 1985, Zia appointed Muhammad Khan Junejo Prime Minister but accumulated more presidential powers via the Eighth Amendment to the Constitution.[11] After Junejo signed the Geneva Accords in 1988 against Zia's wishes, and called for an inquiry into the Ojhri Camp disaster, Zia dismissed Junejo's government and announced fresh elections in November 1988. He was killed along with several of his top military officials and two American diplomats in a mysterious plane crash near Bahawalpur on 17 August 1988. To this day, Zia remains a polarising figure in Pakistan's history, credited for preventing wider Soviet incursions into the region as well as economic prosperity, but decried for weakening democratic institutions and passing laws encouraging religious intolerance.[12][13] He is also cited for promoting the early political career of Nawaz Sharif, who would be thrice elected Prime Minister.[14][15]
Is it a parody?

- PRTP GWD
 
Strange..Are you sure? Below tweet says it was though jointly owned but Mr. Ispahani was one of the member.

She is correct. It was started as a joint business venture by the Ispahani and the Adamjee groups. There were other business groups involved as well, e.g. the Arag group. However, it was started as a public business venture. Common practice, even today. The stock was floated in 1944 against a share capital of Rs10 million. It was bought across the subcontinent, apparently by Quid-e-Azam as well.

But he did offer his airline to Pakistan for national usage, didn't he?

Its merger with PIA was proposed and offered by the government of Pakistan. There's a misconception that PIA was a re-branding of Orient Airways. PIA was formed in 1951 as a government department after the proposal and plan of a national carrier was put forth soon after independence. It was then proposed that all the existing and upcoming small private carriers should be nationalised and merged into PIA, after which government funds would be injected to grow it into a carrier large enough to satisfy the country's needs. Apart from Orient, there were other private carriers during the 1947-1955 period as well, e.g. Pak Air and Air Pakistan Ltd. All these private carriers and ventures were then approached by the government and offered merger proposals. Orient merged with PIA in 1953 but kept flying under its own banner until 1955, after which all operations were taken over by PIA. Orient's shareholders received a 40 percent interest in PIA from the merger. It was a textbook business merger and not a gift in anyway. People usually get confused from the term "nationalisation" due to Bhutto's doings.

The above does not in any way take anything away from the services the Ispahanis have rendered for Pakistan, which are too many to list.

Regarding hotel, can you quote some references?

Of course. There was a bit of drama around the sale as well. The Hotel was worth many times more than what was originally agreed in the 1979 lease agreement, so the owner demanded more. He lost the case in court.

" It was a good deal gone bad for the Milsteins and a windfall for the Pakistanis, who had lost money on the hotel nearly every year since they took it over in 1979, under a lease with an option to buy in 20 years. They now own a major hotel at one of Manhattan's best corners, Madison Avenue and 45th Street. "

Judge Rules Against Milsteins in Roosevelt Hotel Dispute

"At first, the Pakistani airline, in partnership with Saudi Prince Faisal bin Khalid, only leased the hotel. But, in 1999, the partners exercised an option to buy the property from Manhattan developer Paul Milstein for $36.5 million, a sum that Mr. Milstein unsuccessfully contested in court, asserting the site was ultimately worth a whole lot more—as much as $250 million."

Roosevelt Hotel’s Rough Ride Toward Sale Could Be A Lot of Bull Moose

" Under a memorandum of understanding signed on 2nd May this year in Dubai between HRH Prince Faisal, PIAC Managing Director Tariq Kirmani and Managing Director PIA Investments Company Ltd. Aslam R. Khan, PIAC will get 100 percent ownership of two hotels, namely, Roosevelt, New York, and Scribe, Paris. The third hotel, which is in Saudi Arabia, the Minhal Holiday Inn, Riyadh will be 100 percent owned by HRH Prince Faisal. PIAC will also pay $40 million to Prince Faisal. "

https://fp.brecorder.com/2005/06/20050622285497/

Was not expecting to find the NYT newspaper article from 1979.

112869475_360W.png

Pakistan Airlines Leases the Roosevelt
 
Last edited:
Asalam Alikum,

The thread of title says it all - You are here to LEARN about the SACRIFICES and CONTRIBUTION of Urdu Speakers and other Migrants (Memon, Gujrati etc) towards PAKISTAN.

Despite being ONLY 8%-10% of whole Pakistani population, the GIGANTIC efforts, sweat and blood was given by Migrants at EVERY need of the hour, UNQUESTIONED.

May be that's why Karachi and Urdu speakers are always taken for granted...Well, that's another topic.

I am honored to be the first guy to start this kind of thread. Being from Karachi myself, I take ABSOLUTE pride of being part of such civilized and educated community who can also actually FIGHT, if need arises, against all odds. There's always a fighting and daring instinct in our blood....We are the SURVIVORS and WINNERS - made this country, traveled all way long, settled in Karachi and urban areas of Sindh and turned them into such a heaven that every other ethnicity left speechless and stunned.

As of now, we are probably in our worst phase but guess what, good times will come and this SHALL too pass, Insha Allah :)

So, you guys can definitely take part in this thread and can discuss and talk and post all personalities from migrants/Urdu Speaking background who did some for Pakistan.

------------
------------

For me, I will start from him - the most respected ; Mr. Edhi

Abdul_Sattar_Edhi.jpg


Born: February 28, 1928, Bantva, India
Died: July 8, 2016, Karachi

Abdul Sattar Edhi was a Pakistani philanthropist, ascetic, and humanitarian who founded the Edhi Foundation, which runs the world's largest volunteer ambulance network, along with various homeless shelters, animal shelters, rehabilitation centres, and orphanages across Pakistan.

He died on 8 July 2016 at the age of 88 due to complete kidney failure after having been placed on a ventilator. One of his last wishes was that his organs be donated for the use of the needy but due to his poor health, only his corneas were suitable for later use in donation. He was laid to rest at Edhi Village in Karachi.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Sattar_Edhi#


You seemed to have got your facts wrong:-
" After partition, there were 330 million people in India, 30 million in West Pakistan, and 30 million people in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh)." [ citation needed ] Once the boundaries were established, about 14.5 million people crossed the borders to what they hoped was the relative safety of religious majority. "

That makes "Muhajirs" 33% of the population who were spread out into Punjab and Sindh. You seem to be only counting the Urdu speakers in Sindh and discounting the ones in Punjab who have assimilated well into the province but who still identify themselves as "Urdu speaking".
 
She is correct. It was started as a joint business venture by the Ispahani and the Adamjee groups. There were other business groups involved as well, e.g. the Arag group. However, it was started as a public business venture. Common practice, even today. The stock was floated in 1944 against a share capital of Rs10 million. It was bought across the subcontinent, apparently by Quid-e-Azam as well.



Its merger with PIA was proposed and offered by the government of Pakistan. There's a misconception that PIA was a re-branding of Orient Airways. PIA was formed in 1951 as a government department after the proposal and plan of a national carrier was put forth soon after independence. It was then proposed that all the existing and upcoming small private carriers should be nationalised and merged into PIA, after which government funds would be injected to grow it into a carrier large enough to satisfy the country's needs. Apart from Orient, there were other private carriers during the 1947-1955 period as well, e.g. Pak Air and Air Pakistan Ltd. All these private carriers and ventures were then approached by the government and offered merger proposals. Orient merged with PIA in 1953 but kept flying under its own banner until 1955, after which all operations were taken over by PIA. Orient's shareholders received a 40 percent interest in PIA from the merger. It was a textbook business merger and not a gift in anyway. People usually get confused from the term "nationalisation" due to Bhutto's doings.

The above does not in any way take anything away from the services the Ispahanis have rendered for Pakistan, which are too many to list.



Of course. There was a bit of drama around the sale as well. The Hotel was worth many times more than what was originally agreed in the 1979 lease agreement, so the owner demanded more. He lost the case in court.

" It was a good deal gone bad for the Milsteins and a windfall for the Pakistanis, who had lost money on the hotel nearly every year since they took it over in 1979, under a lease with an option to buy in 20 years. They now own a major hotel at one of Manhattan's best corners, Madison Avenue and 45th Street. "

Judge Rules Against Milsteins in Roosevelt Hotel Dispute

"At first, the Pakistani airline, in partnership with Saudi Prince Faisal bin Khalid, only leased the hotel. But, in 1999, the partners exercised an option to buy the property from Manhattan developer Paul Milstein for $36.5 million, a sum that Mr. Milstein unsuccessfully contested in court, asserting the site was ultimately worth a whole lot more—as much as $250 million."

Roosevelt Hotel’s Rough Ride Toward Sale Could Be A Lot of Bull Moose

" Under a memorandum of understanding signed on 2nd May this year in Dubai between HRH Prince Faisal, PIAC Managing Director Tariq Kirmani and Managing Director PIA Investments Company Ltd. Aslam R. Khan, PIAC will get 100 percent ownership of two hotels, namely, Roosevelt, New York, and Scribe, Paris. The third hotel, which is in Saudi Arabia, the Minhal Holiday Inn, Riyadh will be 100 percent owned by HRH Prince Faisal. PIAC will also pay $40 million to Prince Faisal. "

https://fp.brecorder.com/2005/06/20050622285497/

Was not expecting to find the NYT newspaper article from 1979.

112869475_360W.png

Pakistan Airlines Leases the Roosevelt

Thanks, brother. I am really hoping that you continue to visit my this thread...My intention is surely not to exaggerate. Thanks again :)

From now on, will take more time than usual to verify thoroughly before posting here :)

You seemed to have got your facts wrong:-
" After partition, there were 330 million people in India, 30 million in West Pakistan, and 30 million people in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh)." [ citation needed ] Once the boundaries were established, about 14.5 million people crossed the borders to what they hoped was the relative safety of religious majority. "

That makes "Muhajirs" 33% of the population who were spread out into Punjab and Sindh. You seem to be only counting the Urdu speakers in Sindh and discounting the ones in Punjab who have assimilated well into the province but who still identify themselves as "Urdu speaking".

I will surely try to cover Urdu speakers migrants of Punjab as well.
 
C.M.Latif:

Mr Latif established BECO in 1932, when he sold its first 10 shares to a lime merchant for Rs 10. In the early years, he worked almost single-handedly to build up the company from its first workshop in two rooms and a veranda. Over the course of the next forty years, and in spite of losing much of his business when he migrated to Pakistan at Partition, he built BECO into a stalwart of the engineering industry in Pakistan.


 
For those who don't know, there is a long list of migrants from India who played a vital role in uplifting Peshawar University.
 
My intention is surely not to exaggerate. Thanks again :)

From now on, will take more time than usual to verify thoroughly before posting here :)

Not your fault. Who would expect an elected official, speaking on the floor, live on national TV to fabricate such ridiculous claims? This is how they fool us, all of them, all of us. I once heard a guy addressing a massive gathering say "If Punjab takes out all the electricity from the water, what will you water your crops with?".....

Anyway, I will continue to visit this thread because I want to learn of these men and women. Correcting the inaccuracies is purely academic.
 
119489024_3048734731903765_9010418132134154577_n.jpg


Sir Adamjee Haji Dawood Bawany (30 June 1880 – 27 January 1948) was a Pakistani businessman and philanthropist who founded Adamjee Group. He was also an activist in the Pakistan Movement.

On 27 August 1947, Mohammad Ali Jinnah's finance team approached Adamjee Dawood for help because India had not released the share of funds due to Pakistan. So, the newly created country Pakistan was in financial trouble. Adamjee Haji Dawood wrote a 'blank cheque' secured against all his industrial assets and personal wealth which enabled the country to handle its financial crisis successfully.

Born: June 30, 1880, Jetpur, India
Died: January 27, 1948, Karachi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adamjee_Haji_Dawood
 
800px-Ahmad_Dawood_-_Final.jpg



Born: 1899, Bantva, India
Died: January 2, 2002, Karachi

Seth Ahmad Dawood (1899 – 2 January 2002) was a Pakistani industrialist, pioneer merchant and a philanthropist. He was the founder of the Dawood Group and Dawood Foundation which established a college, Dawood Engineering College, named after him.

Born in Bantva, Kathiawar peninsula in Saurashtra (region), Gujarat, British India, to a Memon family, Ahmed got introduced to business basics at an early age through working at his grandfather's shop of cotton yarn and various utilities. In 1920, he established his own shop in Bombay and succeeded in establishing a trading house there that dealt in commodities, textiles, jute and yarn.

He migrated to Karachi, Pakistan in 1947 and initiated a number of industrial projects in East and West Pakistan upon the appeal and encouragement of Muhammad Ali Jinnah, the founder of then new state of Pakistan in 1947. Dawood Group's Karnaphuli Paper Mills used to meet the newsprint requirements of Pakistan before separation of East Pakistan in 1971.

Ahmed Dawood and Dawood Group of companies had played a key role in industrializing of Karachi city of Pakistan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_Dawood
 
636589297389981794Abu%20Bakr%20Ahmad%20Haleem.jpg


Abu Bakr Ahmad Haleem (Urdu: ابو بكر احمد حليم; commonly known as A. B. A. Haleem) (1897 – 20 April 1975) was an influential and pioneering Pakistani political scientist and the first vice-chancellor of Karachi University in 1951 and served in that position for 6 years. Before that, he was appointed the first vice-chancellor of the University of Sindh in 1947 and served in that position for 4 years until 1951. He spent most of his career teaching political science at the Karachi University and is regarded as having been "the influential political scientist" of Pakistan.


After the establishment of Pakistan in 1947, Haleem was appointed the first Vice-Chancellor of Sindh University at the behest of Jinnah; later he would be ascended as the first Vice-Chancellor of Karachi University also, in 1951. He left the post of Pro Vice-Chancellor of Aligarh Muslim University to join as Vice- Chancellor of Sindh University in 1947. He was also elected to the house of central province on Muslim League ticket. He continued his teaching on political science at Karachi University until he was appointed leading member of Council of Islamic Ideology (CII) in 1965 by the Government of Pakistan. In 1970, he became chairman of Pakistan Institute of International Affairs (PIIA) which he chaired until 1974. In 1975, he once returned to Karachi University to teach political science which he remained associated with until his death on 20 April 1975.

His sons Muggan Haleem and Tariq Haleem are reputed entrepreneurs of Karachi. Tariq Haleem is Chairman of Standing Committee on Port Services and Shipping of Federation of Pakistani Chambers of Commerce and Industries (FPCCI).


Born: March 1, 1897, Bihar, India
Died: April 20, 1975, Karachi
Citizenship: Pakistan
Field: Political Science
Education: University of Oxford, Patna University

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Bakr_Ahmad_Haleem
 

Latest posts

Back
Top Bottom