Abdali : a hero or villian for Pakistani punjabis?

[dawn_news]

Pakistani Punjabi are the only people in world who dispise their own language and are very proud of speaking in urdu and even stop their kids to speak in their mother tounge. for about 60 million or so Pakistani Punjabi speakers there ist a single Punjabi newspaper.. Punjabi is not taught in schools. this is serious issue of low self esteem. then they try to compare themselves to us. we are exact opposite of them.



don't you think 74% is a bit too much to believe ... and regarding people of other states coming to Punjab. thas because Punjabi labour rate is very high. people from poor states come to get livelihood and leave. urdufied Punjabi is not pure Punjabi.. get it in your thick skull.. there aint a 1 Pakistani I met who spoke pure Punjabi.

First of all there are almost 90-100 million Pakistani punjabi speakers. And 74% is official figure from Indian goverment, not me.

Our punjabi spoken in villages is pure punjabi without influence of hindawi/urdu. Your own indian punjabi one told that indian punjabi has become hindabi which is shamefull.

 

[cloud_9]

This is what happens when you have no local heroes [Or you forget the handful few].

Not sure how happy Afghans will be that Pakistani Punjabis are claiming their kings as Punjabi HEROES.

 

[jatt+gutts]

First of all there are almost 90-100 million Pakistani punjabi speakers. And 74% is official figure from Indian goverment, not me.

Our punjabi spoken in villages is pure punjabi without influence of hindawi/urdu. Your own indian punjabi one told that indian punjabi has become hindabi which is shamefull.

74% means 3 in 4 Punjabis are drug addicts.. if you believe that then yu are foolish. sometimes indian Punjabi try to be friendly with Pakistan and praise them even though they know Pakistani Punjabis are not praiseworthy.. even your Punjabi leaders give lectures in Urdu in Pakistan. you people are getting urdufied since partition. earlier because we lived side by side we influenced you and you have the pride but since the partition without mentor Pakistani Punjabis are low in self esteem

PUNJABI IST A OFFICIAL LANGUAGE IN PAKISTANI PUNJAB..

The only places in Pakistan where Punjabi is uninhibitedly spoken are the so-called backward rural areas or city slums. These misfortunate people look up to prosperous educated Punjabis--the landed aristocrats, industrialists, the yuppies and the bourgeoisie--as role models. As they become educated they discard their mother tongue along with their uncouth dress and manners. Hence the formula seems simple enough: the more educated a Punjabi is, the more anti-Punjabi and Punjabi-less he or she becomes

 

[jatt+gutts]

while Pakistani are discarding their language indian Punjabis are spreading it...Punjabi is now the third most spoken language in Canada after English and French.

The first Punjabi class in Canada started in 1908 at the Khalsa Diwan Society gurdwara in Vancouver. The first Punjabi newspaper in Canada –Swadesh Sewak – was started in Vancouver in 1910. Canada’s first Punjabi book – Dushman di Khoj Bhal – (Search of the Enemy) by Munsha Singh Dukhi was printed in Vancouver in 1914. Today, Punjabi is the third most spoken language in Canada with at least 460,000 speakers. Surrey, with close to 100,000 speakers of Punjabi, has now become the largest Punjabi-speaking community outside Punjab. Brampton in Ontario is close second with 91,000 speakers of Punjabi

 

[MilSpec]

First of all there are almost 90-100 million Pakistani punjabi speakers. And 74% is official figure from Indian goverment, not me.

Our punjabi spoken in villages is pure punjabi without influence of hindawi/urdu. Your own indian punjabi one told that indian punjabi has become hindabi which is shamefull.

Punjabi is an Indo-Aryan language. It is a descendant of the Shauraseni language, which was the chief language of mediaeval northern India.

Are you telling me 90-100 million pakistanis are speaking a language which originates in A Dramatic Prakrit, Shauraseni which was the chief language used in drama in northern medieval India.... uh oh!

You might want to look up origins of punjabi language...

 

[dawn_news]

Punjabi is an Indo-Aryan language. It is a descendant of the Shauraseni language, which was the chief language of mediaeval northern India.

Are you telling me 90-100 million pakistanis are speaking a language which originates in A Dramatic Prakrit, Shauraseni which was the chief language used in drama in northern medieval India.... uh oh!

You might want to look up origins of punjabi language...

Oh oh original indo-aryan language sanskrit was composed and named in Punjab. I bet Shauraseni language was also manly punjab language. Its always been one way street from punjab to rest of india as far as civilization and culture goes.

 

[kushan]

Pathan in today's world means someone who get manipulated by punjabis of pakistan.



too late,perhaps u can try changing the name of Haripur in KPK.

Yea i know. Thats why historians agree that timur shah made the blunder of appointing ranjeet singh governor of lahore when a proper candidate from kasur was available...who could foresee that this one-eyed midget would prove to be a great leader and conquer entire punjab along with peshawer?. Mughals didnt do their job properly, they massacred sikhs but didnt finish them. The result was violent and revenge-seeking anti-muslim fanatics.

 

[dawn_news]

Yea i know. Thats why historians agree that timur shah made the blunder of appointing ranjeet singh governor of lahore when a proper candidate from kasur was available...who could foresee that this one-eyed midget would prove to be a great leader and conquer entire punjab along with peshawer?. Mughals didnt do their job properly, they massacred sikhs but didnt finish them. The result was violent and revenge-seeking anti-muslim fanatics.

Timur didnt appoint him, RS conquered Lahore from another sikh bhangi misl. Muslims, hindus, sikhs of lahore wrote letter to RS to come and conquer Lahore from bhangi misl. He first united sikh misl and later on punjabi muslims and hindus.

 

[kushan]

Should have? they did commit genocide against the Sikhs. The biggest massacres of the Sikhs occurred under Afghan rule. Attacked and destroyed the Darbar Sahib in Amritsar more than once. And the Mughals also had committed genocide against the Sikhs, especially under Zakaria Khan, Adina Beg, Mir Mannu and Lakhpat Rai. That's why Sikhs were fighting in the first place. Before that, the Sikhs were a peaceful community in case you didn't know

I meant genocide of entire sikh nation, not some massacres here and there. It was the job of mughals to nip the evil in the bud.

 

[dawn_news]

74% means 3 in 4 Punjabis are drug addicts.. if you believe that then yu are foolish. sometimes indian Punjabi try to be friendly with Pakistan and praise them even though they know Pakistani Punjabis are not praiseworthy.. even your Punjabi leaders give lectures in Urdu in Pakistan. you people are getting urdufied since partition. earlier because we lived side by side we influenced you and you have the pride but since the partition without mentor Pakistani Punjabis are low in self esteem

PUNJABI IST A OFFICIAL LANGUAGE IN PAKISTANI PUNJAB..

The only places in Pakistan where Punjabi is uninhibitedly spoken are the so-called backward rural areas or city slums. These misfortunate people look up to prosperous educated Punjabis--the landed aristocrats, industrialists, the yuppies and the bourgeoisie--as role models. As they become educated they discard their mother tongue along with their uncouth dress and manners. Hence the formula seems simple enough: the more educated a Punjabi is, the more anti-Punjabi and Punjabi-less he or she becomes

74% are drug addicts, its huge crisis going on in east punjab.

Well even in cities punjabi is spoken in homes. Again we decided early on official language will be urdu in which every Pakistani will comunicate. Pakistan punjabi population is 50% and Indian punjabis is basically useless in Indian politics being only 2%. So Pakistan punjab can't live in his own buble and be drug addicts like you. We have to run the country unlike your punjab which has been reduced to shitty current form of worthless.

What do you want? To impose punjabi language on others just because we are in majority?

 

[kushan]

Timur didnt appoint him, RS conquered Lahore from another sikh bhangi misl. Muslims, hindus, sikhs of lahore wrote letter to RS to come and conquer Lahore from bhangi misl. He first united sikh misl and later on punjabi muslims and hindus.

He might be ruler of some sikh misl but i have read that he helped timur shah in extracting drowned cannons from rawi river , this and by doing some chaplosi he earned the trust of zaman shah who appointed the shortie governor of lahore...afghans underestimated this clever and sharp midget.
@ghilzai

 

[dawn_news]

while Pakistani are discarding their language indian Punjabis are spreading it...Punjabi is now the third most spoken language in Canada after English and French.

The first Punjabi class in Canada started in 1908 at the Khalsa Diwan Society gurdwara in Vancouver. The first Punjabi newspaper in Canada –Swadesh Sewak – was started in Vancouver in 1910. Canada’s first Punjabi book – Dushman di Khoj Bhal – (Search of the Enemy) by Munsha Singh Dukhi was printed in Vancouver in 1914. Today, Punjabi is the third most spoken language in Canada with at least 460,000 speakers. Surrey, with close to 100,000 speakers of Punjabi, has now become the largest Punjabi-speaking community outside Punjab. Brampton in Ontario is close second with 91,000 speakers of Punjabi

Punjabis migrating to canada in mass doesnt mean punjabi is spreding. No one else speak punjabi in canada apart from indian and Pakistanis. When will you make any sense? 12 baje?

 

[Pakistanisage]

To the best of my knowledge, Ahmed Shah Durrani ( Abdali ) came to the rescue of the Muslims and fought against the Marahatas and Sikhs.

 

[dawn_news]

He might be ruler of some sikh misl but i have read that he helped timur shah in extracting drowned cannons from rawi river , this and by doing some chaplosi he earned the trust of timur shah who appointed the shortie governor of lahore...afghans underestimated this clever and sharp midget.
@ghilzai

Timur Shah Durrani - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

. Timur Shah died in 1794, long before RS conquered Lahore.

 

[kushan]

This is what happens when you have no local heroes [Or you forget the handful few].

Not sure how happy Afghans will be that Pakistani Punjabis are claiming their kings as Punjabi HEROES.

You are forgetting that muslims shares their heroes, salaudin ayubi was kurd but we all muslims of any ethnicity consider him our hero. The saints who came to india from turkestan and afghanistan, were of different ethnicities but they are respected by any muslim.