Abbottabad Bin Laden Raid

[ProudThamizhan]

They can also claim that OBL was buried under the Washington Monument, in the north pole, on Jupiter's rings, or under Kim Jong Un's palace. You'd have no way of knowing because the US government has officially stated that it will not provide any evidence for the claim.

More laughable was the US reasoning on burial at sea: "..according to Islamic funerary traditions".

They also used this narrative on Baghdadi's burial.

why is that laughable?

 

[_killuminati_]

why is that laughable?

Because it doesn't exist.

 

[ThunderCat]

I was in burn hall about 1km away from bin laden house during operation. Lights were cut out during operation of area, so someone in Pakistan was in on this. And pretty sure the esteemed navy seals crashed one of their helicopters. Which Pakistan later gave to China for reverse engineering or something. Because I heard a loud bang and ground shook. They didnt fire any missiles so and there was faint sound before ground shook like something was crashing. I wasnt able to see it with my eyes but I heard it.

It was handed back over to the Americans.

Also locals that army personnel came house to house that cell phone connections will be temporarily suspended.

 

[ProudThamizhan]

Because it doesn't exist.

so what is the islamic way of disposing of bodies in the sea when someone dies on ship that won't see land for weeks?

 

[ProblemSolver]

if Pakistani army was in on this raid, why wouldn't they have been credited for their work? Instead the Americans almost literally punished Pakistan calling it a double-cross.

Maybe a deal could have been made under the table. That Pakistan will fake incompetence, and the US will do bla bla bla. Only recognize this pattern. Obama got reelected after Bin Laden died. Now another democrat (Biden) killed another important Al Qaeda commander for ratings. He definitely got access through Pakistan's airspace through the army brass. They did the same shit again.

It isn't hard for Bin Laden to hide in a town like Abbottabad because its so intermingled, but also Abbottabad has very high military presence. Its like you take one step you enter military area and another back to civillian. FF, PMA, Baloch Regiment, and Army schools are all in Abbottabad

 

[LeGenD]

Rich coming from you. I don't need advice from you. I believe in concrete evidence, not American fairy tales like you. I have been on PDF for 2 years now and I can clearly see where your loyalty lies.

“I am ashamed as a Pakistani, embarrassed as a former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, and totally embarrassed as a former DG of ISI of what happened in Abbottabad, as we could not discover Osama bin Laden before the Americans did,” he said."

Sounds very believable. The most wanted man in the world was only hiding half a mile away from PMA, while the Pakistani military had no idea

Were you involved in this matter? If not then you cannot refute my arguments because they are referenced.

Contrary to popular belief, Pakistan and US had significant underlying tensions. These tensions led to incidents that some are unable to digest. Not my problem.

Be glad that Pakistan never had to fight a war with a much stronger side. Pakistani have no idea about defenses getting breached, bombing runs, and horrors of occupation on average. People here look at parades and draw conclusions from there.

What lesson was learned from this incident? That this was a collusion? Or something on the lines of how to breach Indian defenses? Take your pick. How a nation thinks is a reflection of what it can do in a war. Hot gas or substance.

 

[ProudThamizhan]

Maybe a deal could have been made under the table. That Pakistan will fake incompetence, and the US will do bla bla bla. Only recognize this pattern. Obama got reelected after Bin Laden died. Now another democrat (Biden) killed another important Al Qaeda commander for ratings. He definitely got access through Pakistan's airspace through the army brass. They did the same shit again.

It isn't hard for Bin Laden to hide in a town like Abbottabad because its so intermingled, but also Abbottabad has very high military presence. Its like you take one step you enter military area and another back to civillian. FF, PMA, Baloch Regiment, and Army schools are all in Abbottabad

No deal existed or why’d PAK be punished for dbl crossing.

Also NOW American public no longer even thinks abt al Qaeda . They loathe both leading candidates and will vote for who between them is less criminal

 

[_killuminati_]

so what is the islamic way of disposing of bodies in the see when someone dies on ship that won't see land for weeks?

OBL didn't die at sea, nor was he on a ship, according to the American narrative. Abbottabad is 1,200km away from the (closest) Arabian Sea.

Throwing something in the sea is a sugarcoating for "I don't have any evidence".

Compare this claim with the capture of Saddam, for example, who was brought to trial and executed on video. Or Gaddafi, whose capture and fatal wounding was recorded on video and corpse put on public display. For OBL, you have none of this. Last time OBL was verifiably seen was in a mid-2000's video. After that, he disappeared.

George Bush personally authorized the transfer of Saddam's corpse to his hometown of al-Awjah where he was laid to rest in his mausoleum. But the corpse of America's #1 enemy was ... "buried at sea". No video, no pictures, no trial, no execution, no nothing. Just "trust me bro".

 

[ProudThamizhan]

OBL didn't die at sea, nor was he on a ship, according to the American narrative. Abbottabad is 1,200km away from the (closest) Arabian Sea.

Throwing something in the sea is a sugarcoating for "I don't have any evidence".

Compare this claim with the capture of Saddam, for example, who was brought to trial and executed on video. Or Gaddafi, whose capture and fatal wounding was recorded on video and corpse put on public display. For OBL, you have none of this. Last time OBL was verifiably seen was in a mid-2000's video. After that, he disappeared.

George Bush personally authorized the transfer of Saddam's corpse to his hometown of al-Awjah where he was laid to rest in his mausoleum. But the corpse of America's #1 enemy was ... "buried at sea". No video, no pictures, no trial, no execution, no nothing. Just "trust me bro".

You said dumping his body into the sea was not the Islamic way as US claimed. SO I am asking you what IS the Islamic way?

 

[Neelo]

Funny how my replies were deleted and then I was banned for 3 weeks.

GHQ fascism and PDF fascism is two sides of the same coin n

 

[Zhukov]

Some friends are saying raid was fake and stuff. Then Perhaps Doctor Shakeel Afridi is still in Jail for Cycle chori or something.

 

[LeGenD]

Funny how my replies were deleted and then I was banned for 3 weeks.

GHQ fascism and PDF fascism is two sides of the same coin n

Stop pretending to be innocent.

This is your reality:

Reporting Threat Made By Moderator Legend

@waz I'd like to report your moderator who has constantly been deleting my comments and banning me simply for REPLYING to his comments. He hates the fact I have knowledge. https://pdf.defence.pk/threads/abbottabad-bin-laden-raid.773363/page-6#post-14473985 You need to learn to post sensibly...

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Insults, insults, and insults.
Deny, deny, and deny.
Refuse, refuse, and refuse.

Some friends are saying raid was fake and stuff. Then Perhaps Doctor Shakeel Afridi is still in Jail for Cycle chori or something.

Common sense is not very common unfortunately.

 

[LeGenD]

OBL didn't die at sea, nor was he on a ship, according to the American narrative. Abbottabad is 1,200km away from the (closest) Arabian Sea.

Throwing something in the sea is a sugarcoating for "I don't have any evidence".

Compare this claim with the capture of Saddam, for example, who was brought to trial and executed on video. Or Gaddafi, whose capture and fatal wounding was recorded on video and corpse put on public display. For OBL, you have none of this. Last time OBL was verifiably seen was in a mid-2000's video. After that, he disappeared.

George Bush personally authorized the transfer of Saddam's corpse to his hometown of al-Awjah where he was laid to rest in his mausoleum. But the corpse of America's #1 enemy was ... "buried at sea". No video, no pictures, no trial, no execution, no nothing. Just "trust me bro".

What was OBL family doing in the compound that was raided? They came for vacation?

Bush wanted to show his high-profile kills like trophies.
Obama decided not to.
Two different Presidents with different mindset.

Contrary to assumptions of some members in this forum, it is not unusual for the terrorists to move to cities. Average joe will not be able to recognize these people. This is the work of intelligence agencies.

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[Neelo]

Some friends are saying raid was fake and stuff.

Who said it was fake?

Then Perhaps Doctor Shakeel Afridi is still in Jail for Cycle chori or something.

Dr. Shakeel Afridi is in jail for working undercover for the CIA. Once the Americans were aware of the fact bin Laden was in Abbottabad, they confronted the Kayani and the entire drama was set.

Would highly recommend you read Seymour Herch’s book “The BIn Laden Raid”. Pretty much spells out everything that most people in Pakistan believe now.

 

[LeGenD]

Who said it was fake?



Dr. Shakeel Afridi is in jail for working undercover for the CIA. Once the Americans were aware of the fact bin Laden was in Abbottabad, they confronted the Kayani and the entire drama was set.

Would highly recommend you read Seymour Herch’s book “The BIn Laden Raid”. Pretty much spells out everything that most people in Pakistan believe now.

Military also claimed that it was not supporting Taliban, but it was.
Pakistani were accepting everything that the military was telling them up until Imran Khan was overthrown.
Some in military intentionally spread misinformation to fool the gullible, this is the modus operandi.
But you wouldn't know from a distance, would you?

Seymour Hersh was not privy to this operation - his account is refuted by those who were privy to the operation in here, here, here, and here.

I have also addressed your BULLSHIT in this thread in following posts:

Abbottabad Bin Laden Raid

Some people will say this. Who cares? The war was concluded when Taliban accepted American condition for not supporting Al-Qaeda Network in its jihad against US and its interests. Understand this much. And have they adhered to that condition for a single day? And was any one in delusion...

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Abbottabad Bin Laden Raid

I recall during Benazir Bhutto rule there was news that Bin Laden had been caught in Pakistan it was buzzing everywhere and then there was silence and it seems the news was then suppressed /stamped out by the agencies...

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But you will keep on repeating the same BS again and again.

Who is to say that Seymour Hersh is not on the payroll of a certain somebody?