AARM-24 in Hanoi: ASEAN Armies Rifle meet - Pictures

[BoQ77]

Whoever use M-16A1 in Vietnam is not soldier.
That's err local militia including girls, always without ranking

We ever used them to defeat China invasion in 1979

Like this. You could identify who is who by color and uniform

 

[Aepsilons]

Yep. Those are safety hazard waiting to happen. Sorry can't help to point that out. I work as a safety inspector.

I just noticed that immediately as i was scanning the pictures he posted. Slippers are a big no no for safety standards. Hopefully the Vietnamese Army can afford proper boots for their soldiers. Boots are only $10.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

M-16 was proved uncomfortable in Vietnam battlefield, the good and bad is barrel length at 508mm. Total length: 990mm - AK-47 870mm ; Later Galil ACE 32 : 890mm

shorter than the M-14 it was supposed to replace, but you get the idea. Galil Ace is good rifle though so your grunts are very lucky to have it.

 

[BoQ77]

shorter than the M-14 it was supposed to replace, but you get the idea. Galil Ace is good rifle though so your grunts are very lucky to have it.

We still manage to get the good build quality of Galil ACE in Vietnam. Still with 7.62x39mm caliber. version.

Most of rifle and carbine Vietnam team using in AARM is imported ones with NATO standard ammunition 5.56x45mm

 

[pr1v4t33r]

Galil ACE 31 / 32 ( Ak-100 was lost to this type in Vietnam contract )

Good rifle, the galil. Few pictures of Pindad ss2 and some of it's Standart Variant.

Elite Variant

SS2-V5 A1

Indonesian UN Contingen in Sudan using SS2-V5 A1

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How do you know it's the rifle that produces these good results and not the soldiers?

I still think the Singapore military are the best trained and equipped army in ASEAN. The problem is that most of their soldiers (the conscripts) are short sighted hahaha. It's like 80% of them wear glasses. Their competitors are probably shooting at the trees instead of the targets.

The Indonesian soldiers is undoubtedly have a very good marksman skill, we all know that. Yet we can't discount the possibilities that using SS2 rifle have boost their skill so that they can produce those awesome result consistently. Moreover, the rifles looks cool Not bad at all. hehe. So having joint production with some interested ASEAN country will be a welcome development.

Sing soldiers maybe best equipped, maybe... we can argue about that... but definitely not the best trained.

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UPDATE RESULT

Good job team ASEAN

 

[BoQ77]

Some of Vietnam made firearm introduced in AARM-24

 

[BoQ77]

I just noticed that immediately as i was scanning the pictures he posted. Slippers are a big no no for safety standards. Hopefully the Vietnamese Army can afford proper boots for their soldiers. Boots are only $10.

Good notice. He's a local militia in Southern Vietnam. Only Southern Vietnam militia using M-16.
I guess he is hurry up to come on time at the shooting exam.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

We still manage to get the good build quality of Galil ACE in Vietnam. Still with 7.62x39mm caliber. version.

Most of rifle and carbine Vietnam team using in AARM is imported ones with NATO standard ammunition 5.62x45mm

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5.56 still a way better choices than the 7.62 though. (To me at least.)

• Less recoil means more accuracy.
• Cause more damage to human body there's even a convention signed as not to improve the 5.56 lethality.
• Weight less so soldiers can carry more.

The use of different cartridges are mostly different operational doctrines, but mostly I prefer the 5.56 cause listed above & more.

Just like Vietnam the Turks have fondness for "thirty-o-eight." The difference is the Turks prefer a longer, bigger gun:

When Overkill is a gun:

"Apparently Turkish soldiers, who were used to their 7.62mm battle rifles, disliked the range and stopping power of the 5.56mm cartridge." - See more at: The new Turkish MKEK Mehmecik MPT-76 National Rifle - The Firearm Blog

 

[pr1v4t33r]

Just like vietnam and Turkey, PT. Pindad Indonesia also developing the 7.62mm rifle variant called "SSX 7.62" what a generic name.. hehe.

More Raw Firepower from PT. Pindad

Vice President of Indonesia trying SSX Rifle on Indo Defence 2014

SSX 7.62 - What a beauty...

SSX 7.62 - What a beast...

 

[BoQ77]

Vietnam would have better result if the competition use AK rifle and SKS carbine

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Vietnam would have better result if the competition use AK rifle and SKS carbine

I think the result would be worse. AK ain't exactly know for their accuracy.

 

[alaungphaya]

UGV can occupy cities just as their human counterpart can do & my last post was to show the redundancy of infantry in Modern Warfare.

UGVs will be used in 'actual' warfare, not the warfare we have now but 'actual' warfare between two countries, whatever that means, to occupy cities. OK. I can see you believing things like that. Might as well believe The Terminator is real.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

UGVs will be used in 'actual' warfare, not the warfare we have now but 'actual' warfare between two countries, whatever that means, to occupy cities. OK. I can see you believing things like that. Might as well believe The Terminator is real.

Will be real someday, but infantry these day only be deployed only after the actual battle was finished. Capturing objectives that the rest of the armed forces can't touch because of reasons. That is the kind of jobs that should be left to drones & it will one day because of the danger it pose to the infantry.

 

[mike2000]

Good rifle, the galil. Few pictures of Pindad ss2 and some of it's Standart Variant.


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Elite Variant
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SS2-V5 A1

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Indonesian UN Contingen in Sudan using SS2-V5 A1

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The Indonesian soldiers is undoubtedly have a very good marksman skill, we all know that. Yet we can't discount the possibilities that using SS2 rifle have boost their skill so that they can produce those awesome result consistently. Moreover, the rifles looks cool Not bad at all. hehe. So having joint production with some interested ASEAN country will be a welcome development.

Sing soldiers maybe best equipped, maybe... we can argue about that... but definitely not the best trained.

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UPDATE RESULT

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Good job team ASEAN

My GOD, Indonesia completely killed it man. This wasnt even a competition to be honest. It was a walk over. WTH? They got more medals overall than the best next 4-5 combined? Jesus, i never expected this. Guess i will need to start paying attention to Indonesia's armed forces much more. Congrats again Indonesia. that was great, be proud of yourselves

 

[Cossack25A1]

Now I guess I know why the Americas are developing cartridges such as the 6.5mm rounds and 6.8mm rounds which is "in-between" the 5.56mm (.223 caliber) and 7.62mm (.30 caliber)