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Few lines of 'a' poem? Thats coming from a bengali? Blasphemy! :D

Anyway good night folks, let me leave unscathed before sarthak spots me here! :p
Don't I know that ? :P
 
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Cool down buddy for a moment there you sound like a bhakt .What is wrong if his wife did express her desire to leave the country out of fear for her children's safety ?

Nothing. What is wrong if we say please go and live happily. Country is fine without you.
 
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You go to North East. You will find unobjectionable evidence. How can you restrict an equal citizen from there from eating beef based on your beliefs?

Even in ancient texts, there is reference to it. There is enough research done on it. Of course you would be eager to brush it off as Western pseudo-secular conspiracy.

There is also research on roughly from when cow killing became a sin.

Beef eating in the North East started with the British and introduction of Christianity. There is no evidence that beef was consumed before since Cow anyway is not found in hilly terrains of the North East.

I will read that judgement.
Yet people don't get arrested for eating beef, why? Even the section you quoted says, the verdict is being practical. I agree with practical. That is why we have restrictions on freedom on expression when it comes to 'hurting religious sentiments'. These were practical in 1950s. They should be slowly done away with. Satanic Verses need not be banned now.

Hindu value systems are practical and to be practised by all Hindus. The SC recognizes this reality and so did the Constitution makers.

:crazy: That is what you got from it?

Well. Then what happens to Sushma Swaraj's 'personal calls' in Lalit Gate? That is corruption as well, even if money doesn't change hands. I have only so much respect for MMS, so I wouldn't defend him. Modi has his practical compromises, MMS did his(basically everything was a compromise for him).

I am not here to defend Sushama, but in this particular e.g. is rubbish. Entire "lalit gate" is a Media creation.

Lalit Modi's only crime was to expose a Congress MP called Shashi Tharoor who subsequently is known for killing his wife.

I fail to see what "sin" or "illegality" susham has committed. In any case what has Modi got to do with this ?

An MP threatening people to leave the country is not enhancing individual liberty in India. Very well, if it isa question of the MP's liberty then fine. Nobody is threatening his/her speech. However BJP will pay.

Whatever, they broke down the law based on a religious excuse.

Hey Einstein, we are living with it. But these bigots will soon fall from power. It is any leaders' choice whether to sink with them.

If you are talking about BJP's ELECTION strategy then why hae this farce about "intolerance" ? No law was broken. No propriety was breached. Its a Smoke screen for "seculars" to attack democracy and suppress Hindu voice.

You are ignorant about Babri. The Law was suspended for Babri, the demolition FREED the Law to take its own course. Which is why there is movement today. It was FROZEN since 1932, today its unfrozen and the Truth has come out.

Ah I thought you would be someone fun to argue with, but all I got is mumbo jumbo and usual ad hominem. Disappointing as usual! :wave:

It might be fun for you, but its No fun for me because I have to bring myself a couple of notches down to your level.

So excuse my lack of patience, but feel free to run away.
 
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The intolerance is real today and has implicit support from the ruling party and its sister organizations. And please don't insult our constitution and try to attribute values to our founding fathers. The secularism debate is one we should have today. One which should expose both Congress and BJP as opportunistic and communal forces. I don't care what Mughals thought about cow slaughter. What I care is that religion cannot be basis for any law in this country, its a slippery slope.

Pfft... I am sorry blind man that you don't see any blemish against Modi. Being clean and honest is supposed to be a necessary condition. If that is your sole benchmark for politics then your standards are low. Lol why would muslims not vote for Lalu when they have to choose between two evils? Bad mouth them daily and act surprised when they vote against BJP.

League did not win until 1946 in any of current Pakistani states, except may be Bengal.

Can you prove any of your bluff with reference and DATA? What is the criterion which suggest intolerance has increased. Communal violence have not increased, nor there is any other violance but secular brigade is hell bend to prove that intolerance is there. This will help only the unity of nationalist . Yesterday that congresee goon mallikarjun khadge threaten a blood shed in country if constitution is amended. nobody see any intolerance in that. Whether you like modi or not. He is gong to stay. You can rant intolerance hundred time more every day.
 
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Indian Secularism is built on Hindu value, this is a statement of Fact.

Yea just like Saudia and Irani secularism is based on their interpretation of islamic value. You guys are hilarious when you twist the definition of secularism.
 
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Beef eating in the North East started with the British and introduction of Christianity. There is no evidence that beef was consumed before since Cow anyway is not found in hilly terrains of the North East.
Yeah, sure they never saw a cow before the British.
Hindu value systems are practical and to be practised by all Hindus. The SC recognizes this reality and so did the Constitution makers.
No, the SC says it is based on sentiments, sentiments should not dictate law but we will allow ban because it is practical not to hurt sentiments now.

I am not here to defend Sushama, but in this particular e.g. is rubbish. Entire "lalit gate" is a Media creation.
Lalit Modi's only crime was to expose a Congress MP called Shashi Tharoor who subsequently is known for killing his wife.

I fail to see what "sin" or "illegality" susham has committed. In any case what has Modi got to do with this ?
Lalit Modi was a business genius, yes. That is hard without corruption. He actually admits corruption implicitly saying he can many if he opens his mouth. Sushma should not be the one to decide whether LaMo was guilt or not. And she basically has the gall to make personal call saying don't bother about Indian law, when she herself was an EAM. Letting a wanted man escape when there is clear alternative to give him conditional passport.

Modi is as silent as MMS on this issue. His party insists we should not talk with anyone who insults Indian symbols, they have an EAM who does the same. before a foreigner and an official foreign government!!

If you are talking about BJP's ELECTION strategy then why hae this farce about "intolerance" ? No law was broken. No propriety was breached. Its a Smoke screen for "seculars" to attack democracy and suppress Hindu voice.
Bad-mouth muslims = election strategy.
Appease muslims = congressi, secular conspiracy

Double standards brother. Once you take a stand you cannot b!tch about the repercussions from electorate. And then they complain muslims are not voting for them. :rofl: Not even Hindus will vote for them.

In any case, I was talking about post-election daily digest from some BJP MPs.
You are ignorant about Babri. The Law was suspended for Babri, the demolition FREED the Law to take its own course. Which is why there is movement today. It was FROZEN since 1932, today its unfrozen and the Truth has come out.



It might be fun for you, but its No fun for me because I have to bring myself a couple of notches down to your level.
Hahaha, demolition freed the law. Lol. Nice fable. What is happening to the law now? It is unfrozen too?

So excuse my lack of patience, but feel free to run away.

Do you even read your words before posting? :D

Can you prove any of your bluff with reference and DATA? What is the criterion which suggest intolerance has increased. Communal violence have not increased, nor there is any other violance but secular brigade is hell bend to prove that intolerance is there. This will help only the unity of nationalist . Yesterday that congresee goon mallikarjun khadge threaten a blood shed in country if constitution is amended. nobody see any intolerance in that. Whether you like modi or not. He is gong to stay. You can rant intolerance hundred time more every day.
The test for intolerance is not violence. If enough people feel they are being threatened to just voice their opinions, then it is intolerance. People are afraid. People who speak up(respected researcher among them) are being killed. Many more of them got death threats. Everyday people are being called traitors and anti-nationals. People in power are openly calling for 'leaving the country' with a subtle 'if' criterion which they decide. If that is supposed to be a joke protected by freedom of expression, then it is a bad joke.
 
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The test for intolerance is not violence. If enough people feel they are being threatened to just voice their opinions, then it is intolerance. People are afraid. People who speak up(respected researcher among them) are being killed. Many more of them got death threats. Everyday people are being called traitors and anti-nationals. People in power are openly calling for 'leaving the country' with a subtle 'if' criterion which they decide. If that is supposed to be a joke protected by freedom of expression, then it is a bad joke.

First of all define what is threatened ? Have anybody issued a fatwa to kill them? They are protesting in non violent way by asking some questions. The real intolerance was witnessed by Kashmiri Pundits about whom nobody want to talk. 1100+ massacre. Laddies were raped and they were made to leave their houses. Owasi has a right to publically announce that Muslims will kill 100 crore hindus. What more freedom do you want? Do you want a freedom of killing all the Hindus of india? Traitors will be called traitor. If he has a right to abuse country, atleast we must have a right to abuse an individual who speak bad about the country. Here people exercise the right to waive Pakistani and ISIS flags. Arundhati roy and gilani can question the national sovereignty. Still the liars say that the country is intolerant. I will advise you once again to learn to tolerate modi. He is going to stay here. Your intolerance shall unnecessarily embrace you.
 
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First of all define what is threatened ? Have anybody issued a fatwa to kill them? They are protesting in non violent way by asking some questions. The real intolerance was witnessed by Kashmiri Pundits about whom nobody want to talk. 1100+ massacre. Laddies were raped and they were made to leave their houses. Owasi has a right to publically announce that Muslims will kill 100 crore hindus. What more freedom do you want? Do you want a freedom of killing all the Hindus of india? Traitors will be called traitor. If he has a right to abuse country, atleast we must have a right to abuse an individual who speak bad about the country. Here people exercise the right to waive Pakistani and ISIS flags. Arundhati roy and gilani can question the national sovereignty. Still the liars say that the country is intolerant. I will advise you once again to learn to tolerate modi. He is going to stay here. Your intolerance shall unnecessarily embrace you.
Go arrest Owaisi, go arrest Kashmiri Islamists. Two wrongs don't make it right.

Lol at the freedom of killing all Hindus of India. You need some medication if you are so paranoid that this would happen. Arundhati Roy is an internationalist and a pariah. She doesn't believe a nation state, she just wants human rights. Academics should be left to their impractical idealisms. They don't hurt anyone, do they? I mean daily people are free to abuse her.

Gilani has to question India's sovereignty. That is his job. Tolerating him is a a practical, clever and right thing to do for the government.

Lol. India is tolerating Modi. Until next election at least. Nobody is attacking him.

You have the wrong idea of tolerance. Tolerance does not mean "don't say anything against someone". You are embarassing yourself with wrong understanding of the word tolerance.

And with respect to the threats, yes people are receiving threats from RSS. People got killed for rational views and saffronists are prime suspects.
 
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Yeah, sure they never saw a cow before the British.

They sure as hell din't EAT one before the British.

No, the SC says it is based on sentiments, sentiments should not dictate law but we will allow ban because it is practical not to hurt sentiments now.

The absence of Uniform Civil Code in India is the very embodiment of sentiment dictating the law. How can anyone claim otherwise with a straight face ? SC recognized that law serves the people, the people do not exist to serve the law.

Lalit Modi was a business genius, yes. That is hard without corruption. He actually admits corruption implicitly saying he can many if he opens his mouth. Sushma should not be the one to decide whether LaMo was guilt or not. And she basically has the gall to make personal call saying don't bother about Indian law, when she herself was an EAM. Letting a wanted man escape when there is clear alternative to give him conditional passport.

Who are you to sit on judgement on Lalit Modi ? Who died and made you Judge ? the hypocrisy is ripe in this one.

Sushma merely wrote a letter to the British asking them to allow him (a legally innocent man) to stay with his dying wife. An excellent Humanitarian deed.

Since NO court in India had declared him guilty nor was there ANY ban on his travel by the Congress govt. where is the question of allowing him to "escape" ?

Another example of LIES from you to hide your prejudice. This too is stripped away.

Modi is as silent as MMS on this issue. His party insists we should not talk with anyone who insults Indian symbols, they have an EAM who does the same. before a foreigner and an official foreign government!!

When sushma herself has spoken in parliament and given FULL facts where is the need for Modi to speak on it ? :lol:

How has sushma "insulted" India by asking the british to extend visa for an INNOCENT INDIAN Man to stay with is DYING WIFE ?

Bad-mouth muslims = election strategy.
Appease muslims = congressi, secular conspiracy

Double standards brother. Once you take a stand you cannot b!tch about the repercussions from electorate. And then they complain muslims are not voting for them. :rofl: Not even Hindus will vote for them.

Provide PROOF of what you claim. Empty Rhetocis do not cut it anymore .

When it has become clear that you cannot talk on Facts, you have resorted to Rhetoric's to cover your track and is now talking about "election strategy". Another Dishonest attempt by you.

How many of such Dishonesty must I expose before you collect some shame and admit it ?

In any case, I was talking about post-election daily digest from some BJP MPs.

Hahaha, demolition freed the law. Lol. Nice fable. What is happening to the law now? It is unfrozen too?

Do you even read your words before posting? :D

Ya, when your Logic falls flat, you now want to push the debate onto the peoples "court" and bank on Rhetoric's and Sentiments. Nice Try.

The case is in SC now Einstein. However THIS time there is Archaeological Evidence. The Law will not take its due course now because there is Evidence to the claims.

The law which had frozen the status quo is now FREE to determine the end result.

The test for intolerance is not violence. If enough people feel they are being threatened to just voice their opinions, then it is intolerance. People are afraid. People who speak up(respected researcher among them) are being killed. Many more of them got death threats. Everyday people are being called traitors and anti-nationals. People in power are openly calling for 'leaving the country' with a subtle 'if' criterion which they decide. If that is supposed to be a joke protected by freedom of expression, then it is a bad joke.

Feeling paranoid is not a crime, nor is the govt. expected to do anything to curb paranoia.

What they need is good Psychiatrist Help and a visit to the mental hospital.

Curing Schizophrenia is not Modi's Job.

People who do not speak up are also being killed. They too get death threats, girls are getting cat calls and taxi drivers are facing bullying customers.

So what ? That is life.

Everyday people are also being called @sshols, M@der Chut$ and worse. So what ? Modi is responsible for that too ?

People in power have asked people who have a problem living in India to find safer heaven. Pakistan has been made out of popular demand of mulism so its a good idea.

Dawood ran to pakistan. So did Yakum Memon. MF Hussain ran off to Qatar. Taslima ran to the UK.
 
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They sure as hell din't EAT one before the British
Pfft... Hawa ke baatein.

The absence of Uniform Civil Code in India is the very embodiment of sentiment dictating the law. How can anyone claim otherwise with a straight face ? SC recognized that law serves the people, the people do not exist to serve the law.
Exactly law should serve the greater good of people. Not pander to the small minority threatening violence at everything that hurts them. May it should pander to them for a short period for matters of practicality. Now the time expired for such thinking.

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Who are you to sit on judgement on Lalit Modi ? Who died and made you Judge ? the hypocrisy is ripe in this one.

Sushma merely wrote a letter to the British asking them to allow him (a legally innocent man) to stay with his dying wife. An excellent Humanitarian deed.

Since NO court in India had declared him guilty nor was there ANY ban on his travel by the Congress govt. where is the question of allowing him to "escape" ?
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Lol. Yeah asking to give a 'humanitarian' visa to Raja(2G scam) would also be an excellent gesture.

Oh Einstein, I did not say I am a judge, I just said he is a wanted man according to the government Sushma represented. She could atleast ask Financial Ministry to check on that. But no, she does not even tell her secretary. Lol at your logic.
And she did not ask just to extend a visa. She asked them to give the equivalent of a passport. She could have simply issued an India temporary passport with a condition to return to India. Even Sushma knew she was at fault that is why she did not even tell her secretary.

Acording to your stupid logic, if an investigation is pending against me and I run away from this country, it is a solution for all my problems. Because no court decided me guilty. :crazy:

Giving full facts and still shamelessly not conceding to the logic and going away for investigation is not uprightness.
When sushma herself has spoken in parliament and given FULL facts where is the need for Modi to speak on it ? :lol:

How has sushma "insulted" India by asking the british to extend visa for an INNOCENT INDIAN Man to stay with is DYING WIFE ?
Because he was wanted for investigation airhead!!
Provide PROOF of what you claim. Empty Rhetocis do not cut it anymore .

When it has become clear that you cannot talk on Facts, you have resorted to Rhetoric's to cover your track and is now talking about "election strategy". Another Dishonest attempt by you.
No you are the one who resorted to calling that an election strategy. I just countered it with your routine b!tching of appeasement. How do you, with a single tongue call one as electoral strategy and other as appeasement?
Ya, when your Logic falls flat, you now want to push the debate onto the peoples "court" and bank on Rhetoric's and Sentiments. Nice Try.
You are the one who justified them as electoral stunts. I said there were reciting hate purana post-election as well. And my logic falls flat?! :hitwall: Of course what else will be the test of your claims that majority of the country is with you and your principles?

The case is in SC now Einstein. However THIS time there is Archaeological Evidence. The Law will not take its due course now because there is Evidence to the claims.

The case was in court then. These goons violated the law and you are talking as if they did a favor to the nation by 'unfreezing' the case. Shameless backing.

And show some originality use a different scientist name.
The law which had frozen the status quo is now FREE to determine the end result.
Yeah, the Justice League unfroze the status quo and now avengers will see to it that the verdict is implemented. :crazy:
Feeling paranoid is not a crime, nor is the govt. expected to do anything to curb paranoia.

What they need is good Psychiatrist Help and a visit to the mental hospital.

Curing Schizophrenia is not Modi's Job.

People who do not speak up are also being killed. They too get death threats, girls are getting cat calls and taxi drivers are facing bullying customers.

So what ? That is life.
Everyday people are also being called @sshols, M@der Chut$ and worse. So what ? Modi is responsible for that too ?

People in power have asked people who have a problem living in India to find safer heaven. Pakistan has been made out of popular demand of mulism so its a good idea.

Dawood ran to pakistan. So did Yakum Memon. MF Hussain ran off to Qatar. Taslima ran to the UK.

Oye moron(for lack of a better word), people are dying for speaking up. And the killers are from the saffronist family. The PM doesn't seem to be worried by it.

The PM should also worry about all the above you mentioned. But at least he should leave the country's law and order where it is and not leave it at a worse place by letting new goons into currency.
 
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Exactly law should serve the greater good of people. Not pander to the small minority threatening violence at everything that hurts them. May it should pander to them for a short period for matters of practicality. Now the time expired for such thinking.

Minority Appeasement is what YOUR kind demand. Not what BJP does.

The Entire blame on BJP is that it does not pander to Minority Appeasement and hence are not "secular".

The whole "intolerance" debate is based on the fact that Modi did not speak on Dadri the way Kejriwal and Raul Gandhi and Owasis did :lol:

You are speaking in Two voice. Do you even hear yourself ?

Lol. Yeah asking to give a 'humanitarian' visa to Raja(2G scam) would also be an excellent gesture.

Raja is an ELECTED representative and LAWMAKER Einstein. Lalit Modi is NOT.

Oh Einstein, I did not say I am a judge, I just said he is a wanted man according to the government Sushma represented. She could atleast ask Financial Ministry to check on that. But no, she does not even tell her secretary. Lol at your logic.
And she did not ask just to extend a visa. She asked them to give the equivalent of a passport. She could have simply issued an India temporary passport with a condition to return to India. Even Sushma knew she was at fault that is why she did not even tell her secretary.

Are you Crazy ? The entire episode happened when Sushma was in OPPOSITION :lol: ...... NOT when she was a Minister. LOL........... what is wrong with you ? This is the height of Ignorance. :rofl:

IF he was a "wanted" man his passport would have been seized you dolt. THAT is what WANTED means.

Not "wanted" because CONgress wants to extract revenge and you are expected to Bend Over.

How could a leader of opposition issue a Passport :cheesy: .............. She had a printing press in her Garage ?

Acording to your stupid logic, if an investigation is pending against me and I run away from this country, it is a solution for all my problems. Because no court decided me guilty. :crazy:

Giving full facts and still shamelessly not conceding to the logic and going away for investigation is not uprightness.

Because he was wanted for investigation airhead!!

So what if there is an Investigation about him ? That does not mean LIFE stops for him :woot:

Do you expect people to stop their life just because there is an "investigation" ? What kind of retarded logic is that ? if he is not arrested then he is FREE to go anywhere. Not put the police convenience before his own. :hitwall:

No you are the one who resorted to calling that an election strategy. I just countered it with your routine b!tching of appeasement. How do you, with a single tongue call one as electoral strategy and other as appeasement?

You are the one who justified them as electoral stunts. I said there were reciting hate purana post-election as well. And my logic falls flat?! :hitwall: Of course what else will be the test of your claims that majority of the country is with you and your principles?

LOL...I never called it an election stunt. .... QUOTE ME. I CHALLANGE YOU.

For the moment Modi is PM till 2019 so you loose again. The public is with BJP till proven otherwise in 2020.

The case was in court then. These goons violated the law and you are talking as if they did a favor to the nation by 'unfreezing' the case. Shameless backing.

And show some originality use a different scientist name.

Yeah, the Justice League unfroze the status quo and now avengers will see to it that the verdict is implemented. :crazy:

It was a mass movement to build the mandir properly instead of keeping the Ram lalla and worshipping in a Ex-Mosque.

The public did what the Law would Not. Its called REVOLUTION. Not the first time in human history, and not the last time. in fact most changes in history is brought about by Revolution. I celebrate it.

Oye moron(for lack of a better word), people are dying for speaking up. And the killers are from the saffronist family. The PM doesn't seem to be worried by it.

The PM should also worry about all the above you mentioned. But at least he should leave the country's law and order where it is and not leave it at a worse place by letting new goons into currency.

Rubbish and PURE LIES.

PROVE that Killers were from "saffron family"...... or APOLOGISE for your repeated Dishonesty and LIES and Slander on Hindutva.

Thank god the PM is not worried about such Media created lie and double standards.

Law and Order is a STATE SUBJECT you moron.
 
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