‘A victory for peace’: China helps broker Iran-Saudi diplomatic agreement

[OIO]

That is some aggressive diplomacy trying to wedge a split in US global alliance. But it seems to be working.

Anyway Off Topic I really wanted some chinese members to help me regarding a recent article I read.

How Is India Viewed in China?​

This was written by a Chinese Author, Mu Chunshan. A Beijing-based journalist and is from the prestigious "Diplomat" magazine.

The article says,

"Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi has an unusual nickname on the Chinese internet: Modi Laoxian (莫迪老仙).

Laoxian refers to an elderly immortal with some weird abilities. The nickname implies that Chinese netizens think Modi is different – even more amazing – than other leaders. They point to both his dress and physical appearance, seen as laoxian-like, and some of his policies, which are different from India’s previous ones.

In particular, as discussed above, India led by Modi can maintain a balance among major countries in the world. Whether it is Russia, the United States, or Global South countries, India can enjoy friendly ties with all of them, which is very admirable to some Chinese netizens. So the word “laoxian” reflects the complex sentiment of Chinese people toward Modi, combining curiosity, astonishment, and perhaps a dash of cynicism.

I have been doing international media reports for nearly 20 years and it is rare for Chinese netizens to give a nickname to a foreign leader. Modi’s nickname stands out above all others. Clearly he has made an impression on Chinese public opinion."


How accurate is this assessment and what does (莫迪老仙) mean in Chinese ?

@beijingwalker can you assist ?

A powerful evil gang leader with some special skills.

 

[BHAN85]

China is interested in long term development in Eurasia.
USA is interested in war and destruction outside America continent.

 

[etylo]

"invade"?? When did and why would I ever use that term? It would be 'invited'!


I think China should think OUT OF THE BOX and not think too much about Taiwan or South China Sea as that would mean a hot war against USA which would be mutually destructive. Why not take a fresh look at the emerging opportunities up north and west due to the Russia-Ukraine war??
As an admirer and a well-wisher of China, I'd like for China to think out of the box!

Taiwan is dear to Chinese hearts, too much emotions and history, just as Kashmire is dear to Pakistanis. China wont give up Taiwan for national security, military strategy, economy, and national and ethnic identity reasons. If US can make Taiwan independent and occupy SCS, then next Yankees will make Tibet, Xinjiang and other parts of China break away.

 

[FuturePAF]

A powerful evil gang leader with some special skills.

The videos of what is happening to East Asian looking Indian citizens as well as East Asian tourists will probably cement that image of Modi as the leader of a wild mob, in the minds of the Chinese people.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1634405925082546176

Even before Covid-19. I’m sure videos like the following will be the kind of accounts china will show the public and troops if the PLA and India go to war in India’s Northeast/South Tibet.

 

[INDIAPOSITIVE]

The videos of what is happening to East Asian looking Indian citizens as well as East Asian tourists will probably cement that image of Modi as the leader of a wild mob, in the minds of the Chinese people.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1634405925082546176

Even before Covid-19

https://twitter.com/x/status/1634174996049453057

 

[FuturePAF]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1634174996049453057

Japanese people have to maintain a public face. It’s a part of the culture. She doesn’t have to say anything or could even say she is fine, because the perception has been made. She said it all when she said she “I vow never to go outside, HARSH”; i.e. this situation is beyond redemption. A similar way many Asians and whites avoid certain black and brown minority areas in the west.

The perception of the Indians (and Pakistanis) in the minds of many in east Asia is not positive, but in Pakistan’s case it’s not increasing at the direction or influences of the “evil gang leader”, as is the case in India.

Btw, it’s the rich and well to do people of South Asia that usually go to tourist spots around the world, but the reputation from back in the home counties follows them globally.

So for those that say, we will just leave and will be seen as individuals when we are abroad, should know that in a not so insignificant way, the world will always view you as a member of your origin country. This is WHY many overseas Pakistani want to make Pakistan a better place.

Recently I heard an old Jamaican man call my colleague a “Chinaman”, an old racist term akin to being called a “P aki” or “Dot Head”. Nowadays, despite the increase in animosity, Chinese people in the west are no longer seen as part of a lower class. This in part has to be because of the rise of China and the rest of east Asia. This is also becoming the case with the Vietnamese community in the US, as Vietnamese move up the social ladder and Vietnam becomes a more developed country.

 

[Englishman]

Muslims need to unite

Sleeping giant must wake from its slumber.

 

[TheSolution]

Pakistani Balochistan will be used as a forward base against Iran now. Highly likely this might happen.

China won't allow it

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

there is no better country than China to broker a peace on Ukraine as well

 

[FuturePAF]

China won't allow it

China will probably build on this new understanding between Saudi and Iran to reformulate and relaunch BRI.

Pakistan, for its part should ask the Chinese to be an intermediary between them and Iran, Afghanistan, and Central Asian countries to end the scourge of these militant groups like the BLA, TTP, MEK but also the NRF, so the regional connectivity can get back on track.

I would not be surprise if China replies back to Pakistan, in their subtle manner, that it wants IK back in power, as it doesn’t want to see Pakistan sliding back into the US camp (and out of a balanced neutrality) in the manner Bajwa did, and undermine BRI.

Gwadar will remain an underutilized port if the regional connections are not fully developed.

Peace in Yemen would allow the building of a rail route between Muscat and the Barb Al Mandab; where a tunnel could connect to the African rail network in Djibouti. An upgrade to the Pakistani rail network (Karachi to gwadar) and Peshawar to Uzbekistan) would allow for a direct rail route between China and Africa, with a less then one day sailing time between Gwadar and Oman. If the route between Peshawar and Uzbekistan is going to be slow, a route between Chitral to Tajikistan via the Wakhan Corridor (outside of GB/JK) and on to the China one way and Central Asian rail network the other way could be the fastest way through Afghanistan. This alternative route would be the furthest from potential india attack.

 

[INDIAPOSITIVE]

Japanese people have to maintain a public face. It’s a part of the culture. She doesn’t have to say anything or could even say she is fine, because the perception has been made. She said it all when she said she “never to go outside”; i.e. this situation is beyond redemption. A similar way many Asians (and other) avoid certain black and brown minority areas in the west.

that's just your hinduphobic perception, which is ofc invalid but comprehensible anyhow

she can be seen taking selfies smiling and hugging everyone around

this hate for Hindu festivals is nothing new.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1634174996049453057

do note that i am not justifying this act whatsoever, they should all be arrested

The perception of the Indians (and Pakistanis) in the minds of many in east Asia is not positive, but in Pakistan’s case it’s not increasing at the direction or influences of the “evil gang leader”, as is the case in India.

how do you know did you put up a survey?can you share a source

personally idc long as they keep investing in india

https://twitter.com/x/status/1505246511973781506

Btw, it’s the rich and well to do people of South Asia that usually go to tourist spots around the world, but the reputation from back in the home counties follows them globally.

So for those that say, we will just leave and will be seen as individuals, should know that in a not so insignificant way, the world will always view you as a member of your origin country.

This is partly why overseas Pakistani want to make Pakistan a better place.

Recently I heard an old Jamaican man call my colleague a “Chinaman”, an old racist term akin to being called a “P aki” or “Dot Head”. Nowadays, despite the increase in animosity, Chinese people in the west are no longer seen as part of a lower class.

dude racism exist in every society, the same chinese were being targeted during covid outbreak in america

Covid 'hate crimes' against Asian Americans on rise

President Biden signs a bipartisan law to "stop the hatred and the bias" against Asian Americans.

www.bbc.com

now check this out

https://twitter.com/x/status/1374364230279958533

tell me what makes an afghan hate a pakistani ?

 

[REhorror]

This is awesome news.
The Global South is getting its gear together, US hegemony is over.

 

[FuturePAF]

that's just your hinduphobic perception, which is ofc invalid but comprehensible anyhow

she can be seen taking selfies smiling and hugging everyone around

this hate for Hindu festivals is nothing new.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1634174996049453057

do note that i am not justifying this act whatsoever, they should all be arrested



how do you know did you put up a survey?can you share a source

personally idc long as they keep investing in india

https://twitter.com/x/status/1505246511973781506

dude racism exist in every society, the same chinese were being targeted during covid outbreak in america

Covid 'hate crimes' against Asian Americans on rise

President Biden signs a bipartisan law to "stop the hatred and the bias" against Asian Americans.

www.bbc.com

now check this out

https://twitter.com/x/status/1374364230279958533

tell me what makes an afghan hate a pakistani ?

I have no problem with peoples and their beliefs and their festivals. As an American, I’m sure many Muslim and Hindus growing up on this society have a live and let live attitude and generally don’t even know about most of their own religious holidays much less other people’s holidays. We are more aware of Christmas and thanksgiving, etc.

I commented on another thread that I was saddened by how some Hindus were treated in pakistan, as they tried to celebrated Holi or how Ahmedis had their temple vandalized.

Economics are in India’s favor at the moment, so I doubt this will undermine the economics of East Asian counties other than China investing in India for the time being.

You would agree Pew is a reputable survey company, would you not. Perceptions before Modi, in 2014 were average for India (terrible for Pakistan due to GWOT by and large).

Chapter 4: How Asians View Each Other

Asia is a sprawling continent with a long, contentious history. The region is dotted with territorial disputes, many deeply rooted in the past. As these frictions have waxed and waned, public sentiment has ebbed and flowed.

www.pewresearch.org

The perception has only gotten worse, not better over the years.

https://ceias.eu/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Korean-poll-finaldraft-adjustments-3-1_rqt-1-2.pdf

This is just what I found after a few minutes of searching. I would be interested to see if you can find more recent surveys that refute this perception, and that Modi’s rule has improved India’s perception amongst East Asians. I would be genuinely interested to know what changed.

Also, sure racism is there in every community, but a blanket xenophobia against a group of people in a culture is built on a perception of an other’s culture or pattern of behaviors, right or wrong. The images of anarchy, and even is supposedly isolated incidents point to a breakdown of harmony.

Before you say I overlook pakistan’s faults. The survey shows how badly perceived Pakistan is; worse than India. So Pakistan had a long way to go to rehabilitate its own image. If you notice from the video, Bangladeshi nor Sri Lankans nor Nepalese were banned at those clubs.

Also, the disharmony coming out of India has had an effect on the Indian diaspora and larger South Asian diasporas amongst each other in the US. Even issues like caste discrimination are seeping into some fields in the US. Decades ago, relations between south Asians were cordial, but the large influx of recent arrivals have brought antithetical beliefs with them and made it less so.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

China won't allow it

We’ve done a lackluster job at Gwadar, which is why I don’t think Pakistan is serious about CPEC.

 

[INDIAPOSITIVE]

I have no problem with peoples and their beliefs and their festivals. I commented on another thread that I was saddened by how some Hindus were treated in pakistan, as they tried to celebrated Holi or how Ahmedis had their temple vandalized.

Economics are in India’s favor at the moment, so I doubt this will undermine the economics of East Asian counties other than China investing in India for the time being.

You would agree Pew is a reputable survey company, would you not. Perceptions before Modi, in 2014 were average for India (terrible for Pakistan).

Chapter 4: How Asians View Each Other

Asia is a sprawling continent with a long, contentious history. The region is dotted with territorial disputes, many deeply rooted in the past. As these frictions have waxed and waned, public sentiment has ebbed and flowed.

www.pewresearch.org

The perception has only gotten worse, not better over the years.

https://ceias.eu/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Korean-poll-finaldraft-adjustments-3-1_rqt-1-2.pdf

Apparently they are also the most pro American country

check this out my ideal girl is an american girl lol


77% of South Korean
respondents showed a negative view of the Chinese, making them the most
negatively perceived group of people of those polled in this survey.
The second
most negatively viewed group of people is Muslims (67%)

, followed by the
Japanese (57%), Indians (52%), and Muslim minorities living in Myanmar and
China - the Rohingya people (51%) and Uighurs (48%).
In contrast, Americans
and Europeans are viewed predominantly positively by South Koreans,

interesting