A United Muslim Central Asia

[punit]

I think it is a good idea in a way, we can have a Union like Europe, but I might be wrong, but I think it would be better if we drop the Muslim part from the title, so that some certain elements who consider themselves thakay dar of Islam, don't try to impose their idea on the majority of the people, because some how they consider themselves bigger Muslims than others. To avoid this, drop the title of Muslim or Islam, but use the word Republic Union instead or something.

Each state would have its own jurisdiction, according to its own needs I guess, kina like America.

As for "Sharia", to avoid fitna, I think we can use Sharia inspired Laws, but avoid using the word Sharia laws, to avoid the hijack of thakkay dar of Islam elements... etc.


If I said something wrong, Allah forgive me.




Oh great the troll brigade is here to ruin another thread which is not their business.

well i was tryng to bring light among blinds my mistake!!

 

[excelsior]

And the twelfth one I added on my own is Kashmir which hopefully one day will get liberated.

You Pakistanis can go merge with Saudi or Iran or South America or central asia or whatever, but please keep Indian territorries out of your wierd fantasies.

P.S. you still owe us Azad Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan, which are Indian territories

 

[kas786]

You Pakistanis can go merge with Saudi or Iran or South America or central asia or whatever, but please keep Indian territorries out of your wierd fantasies.

P.S. you still owe us Azad Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan, which are Indian territories

Why don't you just take them? Pakistan is in a pretty vulnerable situation right now..this might be a good chance. Don't let this be another Kahuta, lol.

 

[Ayush]

not possible

 

[RangerPK]

I support stronger economic ties between Pakistan, CARs, China but I don't think a United Muslim Central Asia organization is feasible at this time period. Gwadar is functioning we need to focus on that. Pakistan has already invited Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, and Kyrgzstan if I'm not mistake to the table on Gwadar so that these landlocked countries use Gwadar as their main port for exports. With China's economic prowess I'm sure Gwadar will succeed, China needs to use Gwadar more for it's own exports as well. All countries using Gwadar as a port for export obviously should be charged a transit fee which will benefit Pakistan's economy. Locals should be hired to help maintain the port, will help local economic growth and abate unemployment in Balochistan.

You know, all these countries, Central Asia and China would want to use Gawadar mainly to trade with Arabs. Without the Arabs, Gawadar might lose its appeal.

I guess we might want to make Gawadar a developed port but without threatening the Arabs at the same time? Just a thought.

You Pakistanis can go merge with Saudi or Iran or South America or central asia or whatever, but please keep Indian territorries out of your wierd fantasies.

P.S. you still owe us Azad Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan, which are Indian territories

No it is not. Now sho, go troll in some other forum...

 

[Cheetah786]

lol at OP... turkey / cyprus considers itself european -another kauwa chale hans ki chaal. will not mingle with low class people like paksitanis.

We already have a agreement like in this place with Iran and turkey since the 70s so i suggest STFU.

Iran is shia, and there is a growing voice in pak that considers shia as kafir.

Growing i doubt more like dying and it was a squeak at the best Majority of Pakistanis want nothing to do with it.But the growing have and have not difference in India is starting to make noise. I wonder how long before they come out and fight back.

all the others are formers USSR, who are aligned with china/us/russia and have a relatively small population and want to get rich on natural gas / oil.

Wonderful to meet a Indian who speaks for all of ex Russian stats.only thing he isn't aware of is the poverty with in India but who cares about them lets talk about poor Pakistanis. Your shortsightedness is for obvious reasons but might wanna keep it to yourself as no one gives a ratz a.zz what you think.

our trades with liberated ex soviet stats is growing plus we can offer them sea port via our country you know what India is trying herself via Iran to reach these states.

the only country which pak in the above can seek integration with economically is, Afghanistan.
thats the only union where there is a chance that pak can contribute economically in a positive manner.

thank you once again but as i said go look after your 4 to 500 millions poor indians who cant afford a meal a day first before giving others advice

unification comes from a rich country and not a poor country which has nothing to offer in return

Is that why over 700,000 of Indian army personals are stationed in occupied Kashmir cause people of Kashmir are dying to be with India you know cause its a rich country

Go eliminate the poverty in India before giving others a lesson we have only 180 million to worry about you have over a billion and majority lives below poverty line fix that before telling other what to do.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

All that means cr@p .

Ground Reality ---- INDIA controls KASHMIR .

You can cry us a river but that is not going to change that fact .

You cant whine all you want the fact remains that kashmiris dont consider themselves indians and kashmir is still a disputred territory.

 

[Kambojaric]

CAR's are too close to Russia at the moment to consider any serious economic corporation let alone complete unification (which is just absurd anyways) with their southern neighbours. Even Turkey which shares so much with the Turkic CAR's is having serious issues in developing closer ties with them due to the "Russia factor". In the future I hope however that the ECO can play a greater role in bring all of its member states closer together. From a Pakistain pov there is no hope in SAARC. It is a failed organization so we should look towards our northern and western neighbours for greater economic and political ties.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

You cant whine all you want the fact remains that kashmiris dont consider themselves indians and kashmir is still a disputred territory.

Of the kashmir valley perhaps,jammu,leh and southern kashmir is totally pro india.Dogra regiment and j&K rifles are recruited from this region.

 

[xyxmt]

I know this has been talked about a lot here before, but I was wondering if we could restart the conversation of having the ECO (Economic Cooperation Organization) unite as a single country, again. Especially because a lot of things have changed since the last time we have had this conversation (Arab Spring) and a lot of things are predicted to change (US leaving Afghanistan in 2014). Before I start I'd like to list the countries I am talking about right now. The ECO consists of:
1) Pakistan
2) Iran
3) Turkey
4) Afghanistan
5) Kazakhstan
6) Turkmenistan
7) Kyrgyzstan
8) Tajikistan
9) Uzbekistan
10) Azerbaijan
11) Turkish state of Cypriot

And the twelfth one I added on my own is Kashmir which hopefully one day will get liberated.

Let's first talk about whether the people of these countries want to join together and then we can talk about what type of political system we would have. We could use past examples that have either succeeded or failed, or we could create our very own political system. Would we be secular or have sharia law, and give reasons why we choose whatever we choose. Who do you think our allies would be as a combined nation? What are the pros and cons of us uniting? What would we be called? What would our national language be? I hope we're all creative with our answers and respectful to each others' opinions.

Two words, United and Muslim are mutually exclusive

 

[gslv mk3]

You cant whine all you want the fact remains that kashmiris dont consider themselves indians and kashmir is still a disputred territory.

come and liberate them then!!

 

[priti]

We already have a agreement like in this place with Iran and turkey since the 70s so i suggest STFU.


Growing i doubt more like dying and it was a squeak at the best Majority of Pakistanis want nothing to do with it.But the growing have and have not difference in India is starting to make noise. I wonder how long before they come out and fight back.



Wonderful to meet a Indian who speaks for all of ex Russian stats.only thing he isn't aware of is the poverty with in India but who cares about them lets talk about poor Pakistanis. Your shortsightedness is for obvious reasons but might wanna keep it to yourself as no one gives a ratz a.zz what you think.

our trades with liberated ex soviet stats is growing plus we can offer them sea port via our country you know what India is trying herself via Iran to reach these states.




thank you once again but as i said go look after your 4 to 500 millions poor indians who cant afford a meal a day first before giving others advice



Is that why over 700,000 of Indian army personals are stationed in occupied Kashmir cause people of Kashmir are dying to be with India you know cause its a rich country

Go eliminate the poverty in India before giving others a lesson we have only 180 million to worry about you have over a billion and majority lives below poverty line fix that before telling other what to do.

ok , first let muslim countries give visa fee access to pakistan , then come and talk.
no country likes pakistan - the global pariah

You cant whine all you want the fact remains that kashmiris dont consider themselves indians and kashmir is still a disputred territory.

no problem they are welcome to pack up and leave for pakistan. we are interested only in kashmir not kashmiris.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Of the kashmir valley perhaps,jammu,leh and southern kashmir is totally pro india.Dogra regiment and j&K rifles are recruited from this region.

Majority of kashmir itself is muslim... who by the way are against india.

come and liberate them then!!

Dont worry they will be.. the main point is tht Kashmiris even after more than 6 decades dont consider themselves indian...

 

[gslv mk3]

Majority of kashmir itself is muslim... who by the way are against india.

so being a muslim =anti India??

Dont worry they will be.. the main point is tht Kashmiris even after more than 6 decades dont consider themselves indian...

have your wet dreams!!

 

[Cheetah786]

priti;4355988]

ok , first let Muslim countries give visa fee access to pakistan , then come and talk. no country likes pakistan - the global pariah

No first go fix your own country then give us advise second as far as visa requirements are concerned last i checked indians require visa to travel all over the world .Part of the Agreement in place between Iran, turkey and pakistan is no visas are required for citizens of these countries for travel do u have any sort of this with any country i dont think so.

no problem they are welcome to pack up and leave for pakistan. we are interested only in Kashmir not Kashmirs.

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