A sincere question to my Pakistani

[VCheng]

Don't think so , those blacks were majority muslim imported from the port of Ghana / Accra. I will visit that place in near future. These blacks don't know from which part of Africa they came from. Sometime I visit Black History Month, its very interesting.

The same holds true for every generation of immigrants. By the third or fourth generation, ties to the land of origin tend to get tenuous. That is just the natural progression.

 

[Dubious]

Actually our system comes from the British. Pakistanis never had a system of their own. They are still using the system that was handed down by our colonial parents. Pakistan was supposed to come up with an islamic socioeconomic system but with the death of Qaid e azam. That system was long forgotten and the colonial system is still alive in Pakistan. Our economy, political and judicial system comes from he British who used this system to enslave us and create traitors.

Hence why I said we dont really have a system and are just building one...Since we just started, it will take time to build it and attain the level of the Western social systems!

 

[VCheng]

We won't surrender without putting up a fight

There will be no surrender. The stalemate will remain in place.

 

[El Sidd]

There has been no war since both sides developed nuclear weapons. There will be none as long as that holds true, or until economic collapse of one or both sides.

the writing is on the wall daktar saab

 

[VCheng]

the writing is on the wall daktar saab

Nothing more than the famous warning about not to pee against the wall.

 

[Sabretooth]

We have NO other option but to unite and fight back!

Jinnah, Father of Nation started Liberation of Kashmir ... sadly he died before we could free Kashmir.

Now it is our duty to finish the job. Otherwise, there is none more worthless than us Paks!

Time to become Paks and Paks alone.

IA we dismantle the pure evil called GangaDaesh!

Mangus

Nascent and penniless Pakistan under the leadership of Jinnah advanced to liberate Kashmir for a good reason. The great Qaid knew that the more we wait, the more difficult it would get to defeat the monster of Hindutwa.
They don't say ''nip the evil in the bud'' for nothing.

 

[jericho]

We have managed to say no for Yemen and yet we want GCC to say yes to Kashmir?

The general idea of your post is valid though IMO, we said NO to get involved in Yemen war, and if I understood correctly, we are not expecting GCC to get involved in a war with us, but to speak out for Kashmir, one is military action and the other is diplomatic action

 

[HAIDER]

The same holds true for every generation of immigrants. By the third or fourth generation, ties to the land of origin tend to get tenuous. That is just the natural progression.

Well, I have own research on this issues too. It is not forum, but I did some research on Arabs arrival in Midwest /US. And gather some interesting findings from locals.

 

[Dubious]

In all of your quoted replies, you are insisting that it's just 1 year since we have started bringing along positive change. But my argument stays the same, it's been 70 years since this country was created and your argument is based on a folly that you are creating and assuming that now it's on right path, you can hope, i am also hoping but that we will judge after this current government finishes her tenure.

I am not saying that...I am asking you 2 separate things:

that 70 years wala system, can you equate it to the system you are comparing it with (Western system)?
If no, then it cant be counted
If yes, then why hasnt it yielded?

 

[VCheng]

Well, I have own research on this issues too. It is not forum, but I did some research on Arabs arrival in Midwest /US. And gather some interesting findings from locals.

i look forward to a thread and discussion on this topic, if you can.

 

[El Sidd]

Nothing more than the famous warning about not to pee against the wall.

someday a man will pee on that Wall and it will Break just like old dams

 

[Dubious]

It cannot be swept under carpet that what was done was done and let's move forward. Those billions, which i am sure our state institutes (if they are competent) had kept record of, are not a new revelations under new govt. If proofs are there (if they are there) where are the procedures that are initiated to retrieve those billions? I agree it will take time but are the procedures initiated? Remember "dabba no 10" what happened to it? is it gonna be used for political leverage or gonna be made public? model town report? why isn't it made public?
With mere talks no change is coming at least that i am sure of.

When PTI came to power, Noon didnt hand over records....they didnt even hand over the Punjab govt twitter account if I remember correctly...Didnt some of the Punjab records get burnt in fire like 3x?

When in Karachi PPP didnt hand over the records either...SO tell me what records?

 

[VCheng]

someday a man will pee on that Wall and it will Break just like old dams

Then the other famous one that starts with "woh dekho ...... ka bachcha ..... " will apply.

 

[Armchair]

Actually our system comes from the British. Pakistanis never had a system of their own. They are still using the system that was handed down by our colonial parents. Pakistan was supposed to come up with an islamic socioeconomic system but with the death of Qaid e azam. That system was long forgotten and the colonial system is still alive in Pakistan. Our economy, political and judicial system comes from he British who used this system to enslave us and create traitors.

You caught the bull by the horns my friend.

 

[Dubious]

I agree it will take time but are the procedures initiated? Remember "dabba no 10" what happened to it? is it gonna be used for political leverage or gonna be made public? model town report? why isn't it made public?
With mere talks no change is coming at least that i am sure of.

I am not just talking...I am trying to make my nation wake up and think....I am posing questions they have heard but not given a thought to!